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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A I have no idea what the coloring of my bunny is. Help please!

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    • Grace
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        Hello, everyone! I just purchased a bunny recently and will be picking it up in several weeks! However, I am having the HARDEST time figuring out the coloring of my new holland lop. It looks like he/she is full orange but the black lining on the ears confuse me. Don’t oranges have white ears on the inside? I know the mother is a harlequin but I’m not sure what the father looks like. Can anyone figure this out for me please? D: Thank you!!


      • jerseygirl
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          Welcome Grace : )

          Looks like you have a bit of a wait until you can bring this little one home!

           We don’t normally allow photos of such young rabbits but as this is to be your bunny and you need people to see it to help answer the question, it has been allowed. You can check the Forum Rules and Guidelines for more about the baby rabbit photo rule. 

           
          Im not really familiar with holland lop colours. All I can think it is perhaps a shaded variety like a tort? The shading would appear to darken and spread as they age. But normally you’ll get a bit of shading on the nose, and I cannot really see any there.
          This bunny does look like it is “vienna marked” judging by the white patch on top of its little head. The are often referred to as “VM” or sometimes as “Sport”. Or is that patch just some missing fur?


        • Ellie from The Netherlands
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            The dark ears are often seen in the cinnamon colouring, like my bun on my profile pic. Maybe there’s a bit of that in his/her family line.


          • Grace
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              Posted By jerseygirl on 3/15/2017 8:55 AM

              Welcome Grace : )

              Looks like you have a bit of a wait until you can bring this little one home!

               We don’t normally allow photos of such young rabbits but as this is to be your bunny and you need people to see it to help answer the question, it has been allowed. You can check the Forum Rules and Guidelines for more about the baby rabbit photo rule. 

               
              Im not really familiar with holland lop colours. All I can think it is perhaps a shaded variety like a tort? The shading would appear to darken and spread as they age. But normally you’ll get a bit of shading on the nose, and I cannot really see any there.
              This bunny does look like it is “vienna marked” judging by the white patch on top of its little head. The are often referred to as “VM” or sometimes as “Sport”. Or is that patch just some missing fur?

              Thank you for your response! Yes, it is Vienna marked idk how that happens genetically but it sure is cute. Someone told me it’s a “smutty orange” but I’m not sure what that means!


            • Grace
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                Posted By Ellie from The Netherlands on 3/15/2017 9:38 AM

                The dark ears are often seen in the cinnamon colouring, like my bun on my profile pic. Maybe there’s a bit of that in his/her family line.

                Ooh I see. I just looked up the cinnamon breed, they certainly do have dark ears. But they also have very dark noses! My baby bunny’s nose seems to have no dark shading on it at all. 


              • jerseygirl
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                  haha, well I don’t think Ive heard of smutty orange but I have heard of sooty fawn. : )


                • Azerane
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                    I think smutty orange (or smutty any colour) simply means a colour that presents poorly, it has darker patches when it shouldn’t and the colour is uneven when it should be whole. But I could be wrong on that, maybe it has a proper meaning in terms of genetics. But I always just thought an animal with “smut” was one whose coat was poorly regarded because it wasn’t even.

                    I think your bunny may be a tort as mentioned. I believe tort colours darken with age, and you don’t always see the extent of it when they’re kits. But time will tell more what sort of colour he or she is.


                  • Boston's Mama
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                      It could be a Vienna mark chocolate tort ?
                      It’s hard to tell in photos but that would be my guess
                      Chocolate tort is way different to chocolate
                      It’s not brown at all – its orange – but they have shaded undertail and darker in ears ( the darker in the ears instead of white indicates tort – then the fur colour and eye colour you can use to identified your colour
                      The Vienna mark is the white mark on his head ( it can be a white stripe on head – thin or thick – some get a white foot or something which is also a Vienna mark but would be mismarked – your ones mark will be adorable


                    • Boston's Mama
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                        http://www.ohiohollandlops.com/bunny-blog/an-almost-complete-guide-to-holland-lop-colors Scroll down to the shaded group
                        It could be choc tort or black tort ( I can’t make out the shade in your photo ) but see how the tort babies have black shading in their ears on the baby photo in this link? Orange wouldn’t. And a smutty orange is a orange with too much black hairs ( smut they call it ) which is a fault to have too much – you want as minimal as possible on a true orange. However if an orange had the black smut on ears it would be the outer of ears ( which is very common – it’s very hard to get a “clean ” orange in hollands) not it wouldn’t look like your buns inner ears. Yours appears to have it around the edging of the inner ear = tort


                      • Grace
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                          Posted By Oakley and Boston’s Mama on 3/15/2017 2:35 PM

                          http://www.ohiohollandlops.com/bunny-blog/an-almost-complete-guide-to-holland-lop-colors Scroll down to the shaded group
                          It could be choc tort or black tort ( I can’t make out the shade in your photo ) but see how the tort babies have black shading in their ears on the baby photo in this link? Orange wouldn’t. And a smutty orange is a orange with too much black hairs ( smut they call it ) which is a fault to have too much – you want as minimal as possible on a true orange. However if an orange had the black smut on ears it would be the outer of ears ( which is very common – it’s very hard to get a “clean ” orange in hollands) not it wouldn’t look like your buns inner ears. Yours appears to have it around the edging of the inner ear = tort

                          Thank you for your input! It is very insightful, indeed. I think it is a chocolate tort as well after further research, but I suppose I will know for sure when I visit the bun in a couple weeks! And by the way, your bunnies are both beautiful- what is the coloring of  Oakley??


                        • mimimomo
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                            I have a chocolate tort holland lop! He looks essentially orange, except for some slight darkening on his ears and around his nose. I think he is also missing some distinctive features that a true “orange” would have, like white around his eyes. Don’t quote me on that, though – I’m definitely not an expert!

                            Here’s a picture of mine. I think he is on the lighter end of the chocolate tort spectrum – when I look up pictures of them, it seems like they can sometimes get a lot darker.

                            Chocolate torts are real cuties! I don’t know enough about coloring to say if yours is one or not, but it seems like a reasonable guess based on what everyone else is saying.

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