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    • gatorador
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        So basically I took My elderly-ish rabbit to the vet for help with a few problems I’ve been having with him. He is a 10 year old Holland Lop who has gotten a little careless with age. He also has had trouble keeping his weight up since I’ve had him and since he has gotten older it has gotten worse, particularly recently. I had to take him to a new vet because the place I went to lost their exotic veterinarian. So I guess I’ll start the first problem. Oliver has begun to have accidents outside his litter box which isn’t a problem except he will literally stand in his pee and it has started to cause matting particularly since it is shedding season. I’ve been giving him baths to clean the urine out of his fur, but I am not home for 7 hours a day and so I can’t constantly fix the problem. It isn’t a litter box dislike, because I constantly change the bedding, offer him hay in there and he does still use it, he just doesn’t seem to care anymore. The matts have started to become so out of control that I have begun to literally cut them so it doesn’t end up pulling his skin. When I took him to the vet today she said his ears are also really dirty and it seems like he just isn’t self cleaning anymore like he should. His legs are getting irritated from just sitting with urine soaked fur, and knowing that he isn’t taking as good care as he should is concerning. The Vet didn’t tell me any advice, she didn’t even help clean his ears after saying they were really dirty! (I won’t be going back) So my question here is, is there anything I can do to help resolve the urine/matting issue? Also is there a way to help encourage self cleaning again?

        My second issue is his weight. He has always had trouble keeping weight on him since I adopted him at age 2.5 and I’m sure before. He is on a diet of unlimited timothy hay, 1+cups of varied veggies a day, and now 2/3 cup timothy pellets. very recently his weight has really dropped to where it is concerning. He is just as active as he has been, he munches now and again, is drinking and pooping like he should, but is now pretty severely underweight. The vet today took some blood work to see if there was an underlying issue but didn’t help me in any other way, or give me any advice other that offer more pellets since that is what he prefers even over veggies. I am sure I am not the only one with this problem. Is there some supplement that I can give him to help boost his weight?


      • LBJ10
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          Given his age, the litter box and grooming issues may be pain/mobility-related. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has arthritis. So simply managing that may help.

          As for his weight, I would make sure there isn’t another issue (of course). I don’t think it hurts to bump up the pellets. A bit of alfalfa probably wouldn’t hurt either.

          The HRS has a nice article on senior bun care.
          http://www.rabbit.org/care/elderbun.html


        • jerseygirl
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            You could have blood results send onto a different clinic if you are going to go elsewhere. His records from his old vet could be forwarded on also.

            This thread may help if your looking into another vet: https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/116849/afnp/278073/Default.aspx

            Or if you’re happy to, post your general location and see if our members have any recommendations.

            I would look into getting him a sanitary shave.(Either at this clinic or another). It is much easier to keep them clean then and the skin is less likely to get urine burn. The constantly wet fur against the skin leads to that and other skin infections too. With it shaved, you can apply barrier creams to protect the skin further. Or dusting of pure cornstarch.
            They could do his ears for him at that time also.

            If you are not confident with the clinic you could do the sani-shave at home if you have the right tools. Or try asking a rabbit rescue if any of their volunteers are experienced with doing it. You could give a donation in exchange for their help.
            Even some cat/dog groomers do rabbits so thats another avenue to investigate. They’d need to be very careful with his skin.

            I agree with LBJ that their may be a mobility issue. Even with simply lifting his tail. Sometimes vet will treat this empirically and put animals on an anti-inflammatory and see what changes are observed. It’s good you are having blood work done because if your rabbit does have to go on daily medications, this will help determine what his body with cope with best.

            For weight gain, higher protein would help but if he has kidney issues, higher protein may be problematic, So it would be a good idea to check a vet on this. If protein is alright for him, he could go on a junior pellet or one that is used for show rabbits.
            He’s he ever had his molars checked under sedation?
            A small portion of rolled oats daily may help him maintain weight…
            If he has always struggled with this, Im not certain you will get him to gain much. It might be a matter of just maintaining his current weight.


          • Bam
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              The problems you describe sounds like they’re age-related. Only the other day I listened to a webbinar on care of the geriatric rabbit. The urine-problem can be caused by osteoarthritis or genral pain or a kidney problem. Osteoarthritis is the most common cause and would explain his self-cleaning issues as well. For osteoarthritis, the vet in the Webbinar, Livia Benato, recommends pain-and inflammation-management with Metacam (an NSAID). Start with a high dose, then taper down til you find the lowest effective dose. Pain relief helps promote gentle exercise – gentle exercise is important. Since self-cleaning is very important for rabbits, he might take it up again with adequate pain management. Metacam is however contra-indicated in rabbits with chronic kidney-failure, so have his kidney-function checked first.

              Additional treatments suggested by Livia Benato are glucosamine-supplements, cold laser treatment, physiotherapy, hydrotherapy, acupuncture.

              She didn’t address weight-loss issues, probably because obesity is a far more common problem in the elderly rabbit. But it’s not uncommon in rabbits and it’s quite common in elderly horses (horses are very similar to rabbits in many food-related aspects.) Rolled oats or whole oats as Jersey suggests can be a good addition. There are also pellets for senior buns, Supreme Science Selective makes one type for mature (+4 years) rabbits. It’s supposed to help the rabbit keep a good appetite.


            • gatorador
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                So I got the blood results back and the vet said that everything came out great. So she said to basically give him whatever he wants food wise that is rabbit friendly. She gave me some pain medications to give him to see if it helps with the pain in his foot. So far it does, but once the 12 hours are over he is back to limping. Jerseygirl thank you for the advice for the Sani-Shave!! I am going to see if I can find someone to do it. I also live in Jersey so if you know any good places I would be willing to drive a bit.

                As for his weight I’ve been following the vets advice of giving him whatever he wants that is rabbit friendly so of his choices he prefers the pellets, but occasionally munches on greens, and hay. I swear I’ve never had a rabbit before that prefers pellets over veggies, but in the few days since starting that not much has really changed. I’ll keep you posted! Thank you for your advice!


              • LBJ10
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                  That’s good to hear. I hope the pain meds will help solve some of his problems. As for food, I don’t think him preferring the pellets will hurt anything. In fact, they are going to be better for putting on weight than veggies.

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