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Hello Everyone,
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a rabbit who has a yeast infection in their nose. Everything I’ve been able to find is about yeast infections in ears.
My little guy, Dobby, has been diagnosed with a yeast infection in his nose.
As way of background, he had been sneezing off and on for a few months. I’d taken him to the vet and she did some blood work which came back fine. There wasn’t really discharge with the sneezing so we didn’t do anything about it at the time.
Then a few months later (early February) I woke up to discover he had developed head tilt over night. I took him to the vet immediately. They did a few tests and felt that he had e. cuniculi and maybe a URI. Dobby was put on pancur, baytril, metacam and something for dizziness. We had a bad week of head tilt but he’s since recovered his balance and his head is almost back to normal. We have about one more week to go with the pancur.
While on the baytril the sneezing also went away. But a few days after he stopped the baytril it started again. So I took him back to the vet to see what was going on. I asked for a culture so that we could figure out what antibiotic might knock whatever was going on out of his system. He was given baytril again although I was hesitant to give it to him if it was not the right antibiotic. (I hate the idea of contributing to our antibiotic overuse problem.) However, his nose was now sounding stuffy and his eye was leaking so I started him on it again. The baytril seemed to stop the eye leakage but not the sneezing and stuffiness.
The culture results came back and didn’t show much bacteria beyond what is normally in all of us and that bacteria didn’t really grow. However, an unspecified yeast did grow quite a lot. The vet called me to give me these results and recommended he take some type of anti-fungal medicine for about 3 weeks, along with a supplement to help protect his liver while on the anti-fungal. The anti-fungal needs to be made at a compounding pharmacy so I can’t get it until early next week. After he is on it for awhile, she recommended a recheck and possibly another culture.
I don’t know that I have any specific questions about his particular situation but was curious if anyone else has had this happen with their rabbit.
Hi, I’m sorry Dobby is going through all of this, but it sounds like he’s in good hands. I haven’t had experience with this (although it’s ironic, because my mother had something that sounds quite similar on her tongue). My impression is that he is getting the right treatment and after a few more weeks he will be out of the woods altogether. Having head tilt get better after one week is very good – so it boosts my confidence in your vet as well.
Hey, you guys, anyone else have experience with yeast noses? Please tell us.
I’m curious as to how you give the anti fungal. Is it an oral med? Could a topical anti-fungal be administered in the ears (or eyes??) and make it’s way into nasal tract at all? Or one that can be administered with a nebuliser perhaps?
Re the antibiotics, I know it can be worrying having your bun on them but I personally wouldn’t do any less then 4 weeks. If bacteria is still a culprit, it can be come trapped in the deep crevices and therefore 1)not always picked up in a culture, 2) take longer for antibiotics to clear and can reinfect if not completely cleared. One of the things that can help with nasal infections is anti-inflammatories. It reduces the swelling allowing other medications to be more effective. I wonder if this is why the baytril was helpful the first time around. OR if it was just the anti-inflammatory (metacam) that stopped the sneezing.
I’ve also read a decongestant will help infected mucous trapped up in the nose to flow out. Some things to discuss with the vet perhaps.
Just took quick look at your history of threads. Do you think it’s worth having him tested for T. Cuniculi (rabbit syphillis)? I cannot remember if you treated him when Pip had his treatment, sorry.
Jersey Girl – The anti-fungal will be an oral liquid. The vet asked me if I had a flavor preference for it. I just laughed at that question. Any medicine I try to give to Dobby, regardless of flavor, is considered torture from his perspective.
Your thoughts on what stopped the sneezing the first time around our interesting. It’s frustrating to not know what helped. He was put back on metacam after I took him in for the culture because the vet thought he had some tenderness in his stomach. (I don’t think he really did. He has been pooping like a trooper throughout everything. The vet happened to be a man and Dobby doesn’t always react well to men.) The second time on the metacam did not seem to stop the sneezing or the stuffy nose.
Of course now that we have the yeast infection diagnosis his nose sometimes sounds less stuffy so I don’t know what to think! I don’t want to torture him with unneeded meds but the culture did show something odd. He’s been on the baytril for about a week and a half and will continue on it for now, per the vet’s instructions.
And I hadn’t even thought of the syphilis possibility. I reread my post about Pip and some of the symptoms are very similar. Dobby got one shot of Pen-G while I was treating Pip for it but then completely stopped eating so the vet recommended we not push forward with the Pen-G if he wasn’t showing any symptoms. I’ve just tried to closely inspect him and don’t see any lesions on his face but his eye is leaking again. He was not very cooperative when I tried to inspect his private parts so I couldn’t see much. Apparently, he’s a bit shy! 😉
I’ll try to call the vet tomorrow and remind her of the syphilis issue to see if this changes her thinking at all.
Thanks so much!!
I was reminded of when bunnytowne was trying get a diagnosis for Cotton years ago. He did have a lesion and I’m pretty sure it was treated as fungal infection originally. Eventually, a vet diagnosed him correctly with rabbit syph.
It’s a pity Dobby reacted badly on the penG. Many do well on it but occasionally, it can cause gi upsets for some bunnies.
Or could it have been stress reaction also, I wonder? There are some alternative abx that can be used to treat syhp. PenG is usually choice as is the most effective.
If you were to try another course, are you comfortable to give them yourself at home?
On penG topic, I’m actually treating my bun with it currently. He is on daily metacam too though. I’m pretty certain he stopped sneezing once starting on the penicillin. This was just an added bonus as the abx was being used for his facial abscess. He’s been a long term sneezer with no discharge that was always written off as allergy. I now think he had chronic infection all along.
I was advised by some rabbit-savvy owners that injectables are often needed alongside oral abx to really make an impact.
Yeast is a common “side-effect” or rather consequence of abx-treatment, but I’ve never heard of it in a bunny-nose before. It’s not uncommon in bunny ears though. Yeast gets the opportunity to colonize tissues when the bacteria normally residing there have been killed off by abx. And while the whole point of giving abx is for the bad bacteria to be killed off, abx don’t know the difference between good and bad bact so it kills indiscriminately.
It can be difficult for meds to reach the site of infection though, bacteria can linger passively in the nasal cavity and sinuses and start to grow as soon as you stop the abx. So I think perhaps a decongestant like Jersey suggests could be beneficial to help make mucus more liquid so the abx get better penetrance. Mucus is good “soil” for bacteria. When humans get pneumonia secondary to a common cold it’s often because they have thick mucus in their airways where bacteria can thrive (nice warm moist environment). The thick mucus makes it hard for the lungs to self-clean and provides excellent conditions for microbial growth.
Thanks, everyone, for the additional thoughts.
I’ve talked to the vet and she thinks we should test him for syphillis. I had planned to board them at the vet next Monday for a work trip so she will do the test then. He is going to stay on the baytril and start the anti-fungal (banana flavored!) for the time being. I guess the results of the culture make her think we really need to treat the yeast problem regardless. She says she has seen a few bunnies who have had similar symptoms and test results before, including one of her own, and treating the yeast has cleared it up.
I had tried a decongenstant earlier and it didn’t seem to make a difference with his stuffiness, at least from what I could hear. Do you guys think it is still helping even if he sound stuffy? I also don’t want to trigger any rebound congestion. He is not horribly stuffy. It only really comes across when he is breathing hard, either because he’s being especially active or he is freaking out because I’m giving him medicine.
Of course, if he gets worse in any way, I’ll take him in sooner.
If the decongestant you tried didn’t make a difference before, I doubt it will now. You don’t want to give more meds than needed of course, so I’d hold off on it and go with the yeast-treatment and the syphilis-test. You seem to have a good vet, it’s always great when your vet has bunnies of his/her own!
Sending him many vibes (((((Dobby)))))
To follow up, in case anyone is interested, the vet did the syphilis test and, while it shows he’s been exposed, it doesn’t indicate an active infection.
He is sounding progressively less congested with the anti-fungal medicine, so I’m hopefully that was the source of the problem. I could barely hear anything when I picked him up this morning to give him his meds. He’d also lost his taste for apples and cranberries before this latest medicine but seems to have regained interest lately. He has been on the medicine for about 2 weeks and has 2 more weeks to go. Fingers crossed all the symptoms are completely gone by then.
Interestingly, he takes the hepato support fairly well but is not a fan of the sugary banana flavored anti-fungal. Weirdo. 🙂
Thanks for this. Really interesting that your vet has seen this in her rabbits and had a resolution by treating yeast. Great to hear it’s starting to take effect for Dobby!
I’m due at vet this week and definitely will be mentioning yeast and respiratory symptoms to see what his thoughts are. Might be something to test for in one or two of my rabbits currently.
Keep us updated on Dobby’s progress.
Thank you for the update! We are very interested. I’m glad to hear he’s doing better, absolutely fingers crossed that it will all be gone when his treatment is finished!
*bump*
Any further improvement with Dobby?
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