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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Traumatic Morning – Vet Visit Required

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    • MiNinoJack
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        Hi. So my little boy had a major freak out this morning. He knocked something over when he was having his play time, which caused him to get super scared and upset. He’s really shy and scares easily. I made the mistake of picking up the box he was hiding under to see if he was ok and he ran FULL TILT into his cage and got his little head stuck between the bars. He screamed and tried to get it out. I was over there in seconds. He was stuck for less than 10 seconds, but it felt like forever. 

        I got him to the vet, and she thinks he’s ok, but gave him a little bunny “advil” to help with any pain or swelling. I think his right side of his face is a little sore. He’s sleeping now in his hidey box and has eaten some pellets, but I am so worried. I’ve been crying all morning. 

        Any advice on how to move forward from this? I know not to pick up his box anymore when he’s mad. Lesson learned. 

        So traumatic for both of us. 


      • Bam
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          I’m sorry you had this experience, it must’ve been awful for both of you. I’m glad you took him to the vet and got a check-up and some pain meds.
          The most important thing now is to see to it that he eats and drinks and poops like he should. Stress can change the pH balance in the gut and cause GI trouble. If you’ve started him on vegs you can try and entice him to eat freshly rinsed wet leafy greens or herbs. Cilantro or mint is often appreciated. Fennel is traditionally used for stomach trouble. The best thing he can eat is lots of hay. Keep a close eye on his eating and pooping – if either of it stops and you can’t entice him to eat even a treat, you’ll need to contact your vet again within 12-24 hours.
          The next few days he may be a bit reluctant to approach you, but that’s normal for a bunny. Don’t push it, don’t try to grab him or pet him but let him come to you. He will get over this, but it needs to be on his terms.
          My bunny Yohio was a stray and I caught him in an allotment garden. He screamed like all hell was loose and when I put him in the outside run where he was to be quarantined, he was crazy with fright and darted off the netting like a yellow ricochet. That didn’t prevent him and I from becoming the best of friends. So they do get over even really scary experiences.
          You should make sure he can’t get his head stuck between the cage-bars again though, f ex by putting netting around the cage on the outside. Chicken-wire would do since it’s not about stopping him from escaping.


        • MiNinoJack
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            Thanks Bam. He’s still sleeping. Trauma can be exhausting for humans and bunnies I guess.

            Thanks for your advice. I’m going to look into some sort of netting to keep him from doing that again. I blame myself for this. I should have just left him alone when he got upset the first time.

            I don’t know if I’ll ever get the screaming out of my head though. I really thought he had broken his neck.

            I’ll feel better once he starts eating his hay again and poops. Thanks again.


          • Sr. Melangell
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              Oh what a to do, like Bam said Bunnies get over things in time. just like we do, when Olly gets upset I just say. “Oh dear, its OK boy.” and leave him to sort what ever it is in his own way, yes rabbit screams are awful, we know they don’t scream for no reason, but I’m sure he is going to be OK in a few days.


            • MiNinoJack
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                Thanks Pinky. He’s starting to move around like himself, but definitely giving me the cold shoulder. I’m just going to leave him be and hope he wants to be friends again someday.


              • SmokeyBunnyRobinson
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                  My bunny Smokey used to give me the cold shoulder for a full day when I would go away for a night or two. Then she would get over it. The same thing when I had to give her flea medicine when we moved to a new house that had fleas. She HATED me for like 2 days straight. Then she went back to loving me again. I’m sure he will go back to loving you again once he gets the chip off his shoulder


                • Bam
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                    A bunny scream makes one’s blood freeze, but that’s the whole point of it, evolutionary speaking. There’s a chance that a predator that’s caught the rabbit lets go.

                    I knew bunnies could cream sth terrible, so I was prepared for it when I caught Yohio, but it definitely isn’t a sound you ever want to hear.

                    The bunny cold shoulder is known as “the bunny butt”. (Flight animals like bunnies and horses and deer etc like to keep their backs to the “threat” so they can run away if they need to). He’ll give you the bunny butt for a couple of days now, but that’s normal bunny behavior and not worrisome. Treats are often the best way to get back in his favor.


                  • MiNinoJack
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                      Does bunny butt include refusing all food this morning including his favorite treat?

                      He’s hiding in his little home and doesn’t want pellets, greens, or a treat. He seemed ok last night. Ate and pooped, etc. But now I’m worried.


                    • Bam
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                        No, Bunny butt doesn’t involve not eating. That he’s not eating is serious -it always is in a bunny. It can be the onset of GI stasis, a condition that can become life-threatening pretty quickly. Sometimes baby gas drops can help, and a very gentle tummy massage. Empty his litter-box and refill with fresh bedding so you can keep track of how much he poops and pees. And try to entice him with fragrant herbs or favorite greens or favorite treats. He must eat or he’ll need vet care. This refusal to eat is probably caused by the stressful event yesterday. It’s treatable esp if caught early, but must be taken seriously. 

                        This is a very good article on GI stasis: http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html

                        Skip the part about giving an edema, it’s not sth a lay-person should try to do at home. 


                      • MiNinoJack
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                          Thanks Bam. I’m aware of GI stasis and its a big fear of mine.

                          I contacted my vet and she recommended another dose of metacam (bunny advil), and he fought so hard against taking it. I got most of it on his face, and a lot on a towel. He did clean his face though like a good boy so he got some of it at least.

                          He almost immediately ate some cilantro (maybe to get the yucky taste out) and then pooped in his box and munched on a small amount of hay. So that made me breathe a little easier. He’s eaten a little more cilantro and parsley since then. Poor guy must have been in pain. He’s back to hiding, but he’s pissed at me, so I get it.

                          I’ll keep a close eye on him. I have 3 more doses to give him if he needs it. Now I know just to squirt it on his face so he licks it up himself.

                          Being a bunny parent is so stressful!!!


                        • Bam
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                            Yay, great news!!

                            Even him fighting his meds and then washing himself after is great in itself, a really ill bun won’t fight and won’t wash himself – but eating cilantro, hay and parsley is just super.

                            Pain often does manifest itself as loss of appetite. I didn’t even think of that, I thought it was the fright.

                            It’s good for a bunny parent to be aware of the possibility and the first signs of stasis even if it’s not sth we like to think about. It’s not like it’s with other pets where you can wait and see, they’re not like dogs that eat once they’re hungry enough. Being a bunny-parent is often quite stressful, I do agree. But also rewarding. There’s something so special about them, it feels like such a privilege to gain a bunny’s trust =)


                          • MiNinoJack
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                              I’m super relieved, although I think I’m going to be watching him like a hawk (non-predatory) for the next few days. I think he bruised the right side of his face yesterday, poor baby. Hopefully the pain decreases tomorrow.

                              I’m really paranoid about stasis. I worry that since he is so skittish he won’t let me give him the help he needs if he ever needs it. I know the signs, and my vet is really great. I hope that is enough.

                              We’ve been together such a short time, and I’m afraid that the progress we’ve made with me earning his trust has been undone. I know you all say not to worry about that, but I do. All I can do is make sure he’s healthy. The trust will come.


                            • Bam
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                                Don’t be paranoid about stasis, just be vigilant. I always take action directly if one of my buns won’t take a treat. I give baby gas drops (simethicone), then a very gentle tummy massage (oddly even the most skittish bunny will often tolerate a a bit of tummy massage when it has tummy trouble), and if that hasn’t helped after 3-4 hours, I call my vet. You seem to have a very good vet. And you seem to be a very good bunny parent. Some things we can prevent if we are cautious and intuitive, but some things just aren’t in our hands.

                                I hope your little guy soon is pain-free and happy again.


                              • MiNinoJack
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                                  Me too! Thanks, Bam. I really appreciate you talking me through all this. This site is such a great place for us new bunny parents.


                                • MiNinoJack
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                                    Good news! My boy is eating this morning. He’s still hiding from me, but he was eager to eat, and that makes me happy. I did vacuum this morning (the horror!) so he’s especially mad today haha

                                    He also gave me some kisses on my nose last night. So that’s progress.

                                    Thanks for your support!


                                  • kmurphy
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                                      Glad to hear he is doing better! Is he in your profile picture? If that’s him, he is gorgeous!!


                                    • MiNinoJack
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                                        That’s my boy! Thanks kmurphy!

                                        Is that your bun? They almost look like they could be related…similar coloring!


                                      • Bam
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                                          He’s eager to eat and he gave you a kiss on the nose yesterday! That’s so great


                                        • MiNinoJack
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                                            Yes! Thanks Bam.

                                            He did swat at me this morning and gave me a bit of a growl, but in his defense I was up in his space a little bit. Thanks again for all of your guidance.


                                          • Sr. Melangell
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                                              Aww Bunny kisses, one of the best things in life, not many bunnies gives kisses, I was surprised when Olly kissed me, sometimes when I feed him, I say. “Ahem you forget.” He runs back to kiss me, sometimes he will put his face out as if to kiss me and when I go over he’ll be like. ‘What?’ Then I’ll say. “Where is my kiss?” Then he will hide in a box but put his face out to kiss me and run off into his cage and I say.”You going bed? I not had kiss.” Then the little face comes out and the rest of the body and sits in front of me and reaches up and gives me a big kiss, I had a problem with Olly once, I was watching a video and he heard the animal scream, he was not too happy with me, but after a few hours I said, “What we gonna do?” He stamped his foot, I asked again same thing, so I got in his pen and said. “Hey boy its OK, give Mummy a kiss.” He was OK, I’m glad your bunny is OK, he does love you, all bunnies love Mummy’s and Daddy’s and never fall out because they give bunnies treats.


                                            • MiNinoJack
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                                                That’s really sweet that Olly responds to you like that Pinky! Jack gives me weird looks when I talk to him haha. And yes, bunny kisses are the best.

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