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Hi, Taysmama13, I am so sorry you are having such a hard time with your new bunnies. First, I don’t see my note to you, but we changed your typeface settings because we have problems with legibility, so we just ask that you stick to black type on white background whenever possible. Thanks for that. We approved your post after changing it.

OK, if your second bunny has only been neutered for a week, you must separate them IMMEDIATELY. He has active hormones for a month after the neuter, so he is technically able to impregnate her still if she has reached hormonal age, and she probably has (it’s always much earlier than people think. By the time a female acts hormonal, is a few weeks too late.) So, it would be the best thing to get them both set up in separate habitats now, and let them calm down away from each other for the next 3 weeks at least.

I think you need a much better, new vet asap. This vet is obviously treating these injuries now, but look on the Q&A section of our Forum for the posts thumbtacked to the top for one that says how to find a vet. You want a vet who knows “exotics” (they list that way in the phone book) and you can go to the link to the House Rabbit Society’s webpage that looks up vets by zip code to find those in your area. I would get them both to a second opinion asap to examine their injuries, age, overall health, etc.
If you find that your second little guy is in bad health, you can discuss it with the adoption center to see if you feel the wise choice is to return him, or if you want to nurse him back to good health. You may also want to stay in touch with them in case (and I hope not) Kittei got pregnant, because you will need help adopting out a new litter to homes. Also, the vet they use may be much more experienced, so ask who that is and where they are located.

The bonding fights will definitely continue for a month, so I can’t emphasize enough the importance of separating them at this stage. You can have hope, really! It may be that she is not pregnant, you get a better vet, they calm down hormonally, and you start over slowly while they continue to get used to each other being in the house. Get each one a stuffed toy to sleep with in each cage. The swap them so they can become used to the other’s smell, and take out any residual aggression on the toy as well.

Basically, I’m recommending that you either set up a home space for each bunny, change vets, and let things calm down and heal for a month or more. If you invest in an xpen, then one can live in what you have so far and the other can be kept in the xpen for now. (Clamp a sheet over the top to prevent jumping out.) This way when they do start to bond, you will have the xpen ready for them to share, and not have invested in 2 cages, unless you already own them.

I am so sorry you received that bad advice. Your vet with the ear lifting sounds, well, too inexperienced to continue to use. An easy interview question if you call vets looking for a new one is “do I fast my bunny before a procedure?” It’s a test question because the answer is Never. Feed a bunny up until any procedure as you normally would. This would come up when you are ready to neuter your girl. If she is pregnant, call a very experienced Exotics vet for rabbits to see if she wants to see her right away. Depending on your own views on the subject (it’s sensitive) you may decide to abort a litter and have her spayed then and there. Otherwise, you can get vet help with whatever happens next.

I hope I’ve been of some help. The members here are very experienced, and will be supportive as you sort this out.

Now I should apologize since you clearly used the pronoun “him” but I saw daughter and somehow read it as ‘her’. (Smacking forehead.) I feel like the online version of the bad vet! *blushes*

That does help eliminate the pregnancy risk LOL. The fact that it takes a month for the hormones to calm down actually remains. What it sometimes does is seem to have a surging of final hormones, manifesting in more aggression, until they are calmed down for good. So until they are both past the one month mark, it can be dicey with aggression. After that, they both would not have that as a factor, though it doesn’t eliminate aggression in some bunny’s basic nature totally.

While 6 lbs is not necessarily overweight, it depends on the size and whether DOG has muscle weight or is running to fat. You want to let him have as much hay as he wants, and when there isn’t anything else, eating that is a healthy option for him. Do not give him more pellets just because he begs – they are fattening in quantity. Lettuce is also not fattening, providing hydration for him, but the fruits or carrots are. If he’s dragging the hay around the house, well, maybe you can get him a little hidey house (or cut a cardboard box upside down with a small door opening that is all his own) and stuff it with hay. He might enjoy staying in there to eat hay privately. A small Shop Vac is good for getting up hay around the house – they don’t clog up as much as other vacuum cleaners.

Check out the Diet forum for more tips from members on bunnies that needed to lose weight, or have piggy behavior. I would just mention that we don’t add comments to any post older than 3-4 weeks, because we don’t lock them but we consider them Read-Only at that point.

And you, the internet, and now that vet are right – bunnies cannot throw up. I just hope that the vet doesn’t harm any rabbits since a “little knowledge is a dangerous thing”. I had one cat/dog vet do me the courtesy of turning me away when he felt he wasn’t able to work with my bunny. I was grateful for his honesty.

Bathtub bonding sessions, or baskets on the dryer sessions, are gradual progress in the right direction. Taking it all slowly is necessary when there’s been fighting. For the dryer description, see Beka’s bonding posts about her first work with Meadow and Max. Dear Max crossed the bridge last year, but her technique was amazingly successful. It is motion that simulates car rides, which, when put together in a carrier and taken for a ride, also is effective in making progress in bonding. I would definitely read up on some of the older posts for great tips and lessons in addition to the Info. section I know you’re read.