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    • Irina
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        A bit of background: Butterscotch is 5 months old, neutered about 6 weeks ago, had seizures and kidney failure after the surgery, recovered with the help if syringe feeds. Was easily and quickly bonded to his brother Tofu 3 weeks ago. They lived together for 2 weeks with lots of loving, cuddling and grooming. Tofu died unexpectedly last week (cause unknown, vet not sure, ? Floppy rabbit syndrome suggested by someone on BB fits the picture?). Butterscotch currently has a pen that adjoins Shadow’s (his sister). All bunnies have always had unlimited pellets (local Farmer’s co-op brand, started switching to Martin little friends Original Rabbit food 3 weeks ago. Gradual change 1(new):3 (old) ratio first week, followed by 1/2 and 1/2 second week, 3:1 ratio last week, and only new pellets as if two days ago). They have also always had unlimited hay- alfalfa to start, added some Timothy past month- still get a combo of both. They get three kinds of veggies/day- usually a mix if romaine, red/green leaf lettuce, kale, dill, parsley, oregano, dandelion greens etc. (Amount is approximately equivalent to 3-4 romaine leaves/day). Also 1/4-1/2 carrot, 1-2 raisins +/- small piece of apple (size of a fingertip).

        My problem: since Tofu died last week, I gave not seen Butterscotch eat ANY hay. He sits in his litter box, and moves it around, but does not chew any if it. Occasionally, he will break a piece in two and discard it, but that is all. I have tried switching to other types of hay, and have exhausted all the available hay within a one hour drive. These include Timothy (Oxbow, Living World and Brown’s), Alfalfa (Oxbow, Living World), brome hay, oat hay & orchard grass (all Living World), meadow hay (oxbow), and finally horse hay from the Farmer’s co-op. There is nothing left to try, and I am reluctant to order any on line since I have already spent a lot of money to no avail (Don’t get me wrong, if I knew he would eat a different kind- I would gladly pay for it… ). Other than not eating hay, Butterscotch is his usual self. He is eating 1/2-3/4 cup pellets daily (same as Shadow), lots of water (average 1/2 cup/day- same as Shadow), producing lots of urine and lots of poo (I have a grate over the litter box from BB, so the poops sit on top and are easy to see- he produces the same amount as Shadow does). He is active, zooming, binkying, grooming and otherwise normal Butterscotch.

        One confounding factor is that while he was housed with Tofu, I know hay was being eaten, but cannot be sure Butterscotch was eating much of it. I did however used to see him sitting in the litter box chewing on hay- whereas now I don’t. I thought at first it may be a grieving thing- which it may be… But it has been a week and as I keep reading how important hay is, I am beginning to worry.

        When Butterscotch was neutered, he had his teeth checked and they were fine- I,e. No malocclusion ect.could that have developed in such a short time? He us able to eat everything else- could he have a newly developed dental issue that only precludes eating hay?

        I am very concerned because Butterbuns has always been somewhat nervous and sensitive. After he was so sick, and after what happened to Tofu, I am a bit hypersensitive. Unfortunately, my vet! The only rabbit savvy vet within a 4 hour drive, is in vacation.

        Has anyone had any experience with this? What exactly is the hay necessary for? Is it just for dental filing, or are there nutritional needs that require hay per say, and not pellets made from hay? Can it be replaced by something else? How long can he go without hay before I have to really worry?

        Please help.


      • LBJ10
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          Well you’re not sure if he was really a big hay eater before anyway. I’m wondering if perhaps hay is just a grown up taste to him and he isn’t there yet. I would keep offering it and maybe add a topper like dried bunny-safe herbs to help entice him. Lot’s of bunnies like mint, for example. He is only 5 months old, so I wouldn’t worry just yet. He may start developing a taste for hay, especially when it comes time to cut his pellet ration. What breed is he? You may only need to wait a few more months before cutting back. It just depends on how much growing he still needs to do. Smaller breeds tend to reach their adult weight sooner.


        • Irina
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            My vet says he is a mini Rex cross breed if some kind. Definitely a mini though. So- hay is something they gradually learn to eat/like? I didn’t know that. I was quite worried thinking something must be wrong- but it us true that I don’t know how much hay he used to eat…I just know he would eat some- because I would see him doing it. I have spent more time with him Since a Tofu died, and haven’t seen him eat any- and there really isn’t anything noticeable missing from his litterbox or the hay feeder at one end of it. I will keep offering it of course. I don’t know about adding herbs though- he is a picky bunny- if it smells new it different- he won’t eat it. He will eat the raisins/craisins and carrots, and most of the time the apple (only Granny Smith, no other kinds…), but he turns his nose up at mint, sage, basil, cilantro, peppers, tomato, melon etc. I will just watch him and see and if anything changes ect. Thank you. I feel better knowing it may just be a baby thing.


          • LBJ10
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              For some rabbits, it is a baby thing. Of course, there are plenty of babies that like their hay from the start. But there are some that just don’t think hay is the bees knees, so to speak. I remember it took Wooly awhile before he really wanted to chow down on hay. Now he loves to eat it, so I think this is a relatively normal thing. And like I said, he may become more interested once his pellet ration is cut. Not sure what brand you are feeding, but small adult rabbits usually get 1/8 of a cup or less when it is Oxbow Adult Rabbit formula. Are his current pellets formulated for babies (alfalfa-based)?


            • Irina
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                Thanks LBJ10- it is “Martin little friends Original rabbit food”- not the adult. It is alfalfa based. He gets unlimited pellets as I thought was the rule before 6 months. He usually eats 1/2 cup/day. Does that sound ok?


              • tanlover14
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                  I have to agree with trying to add some herbs to the mix. Dried herbs, not the fresh. It may make the hay seem more … inviting I guess is a good word. I wouldn’t say they “grow” into the hay – I think with a lot of young buns they decide to choose the pellets over the hay because well… it’s tastier to them. However, as you begin to reduce their pellets a lot more buns will take up eating more hay as a result. I would begin switching him over to Timothy pellets now though so by 6 months you can begin reducing pellets so he’s at the proper amount by 7 months.


                • Irina
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                    Thank you all! I was sitting in Butterscotch’s pen today while I was explaining to my daughter why he needs hay as opposed to just pellets. I had my back to him. The little bugger started munching down on his hay! If I wasn’t so happy I would have given him a firm talking to for making me worry! Little turd!?

                    So cute though…. ☺️


                  • tanlover14
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                      Hahahahaha, don’t they always do this to us. I can’t even count the number of times I have come on BB with a problem just to realize they wanted to make me look bad and scare me instead… LOL


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