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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Sick Elderly Rabbit Needing advice while we wait for vet appointment

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    • lucygoosey
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        Hi Everyone,

        Lucy is our 7 year old (2lb) Polish Dwarf rabbit (looks like netherland dwarf but rounder). She has chronic molar overgrowth (genetic, it has been happening since she was a baby) and a few years ago she developed chronic respiratory disease (constant sneezing, snuffles, runny nose).

        Vet says the respiratory disease may come from the fact that her molar roots are scarring the nasal passage causing irritation and a runny nose. 

        HERE IS OUR PROBLEM: Because of her poor respiration we cannot do another molar grind (which would necessitate anaesthesia). If we do, she will NOT wake up. Now we have this problem of her molars growing longer and she now has excessive drooling. We put her on a diet of SOFT hay, Critical Care (which we make into a mush so she can eat on her own), & soft veggies (mainly cilantro & parsley). She eats the critical care & veggies but for the last few days she has not touched the hay much.

        Last week she started gurgling, which I realized was her choking on her own saliva. She has since started excessively drooling and we discovered saliva burn on her chin (runs down her neck).

        Our 1st rabbit savvy vet, suggested we go ahead with a molar grind but that she only has 10% survival and if she dies on the table he will charge me for the surgery anyway. When I asked for an estimate he said he couldn’t tell me until he sees her mouth (when she is under) but that it could be $1,000’s of dollars and he would be happy to “spend my money.” I asked for any other option and he gave me none. I didn’t really like what he said about spending my money, and I do understand not being able to give me an estimate, but he did not seem very empathetic and I could HONESTLY just see dollar signs flashing in his eyes. Am I being overly sensitive?

        I have made another appointment with another rabbit savvy vet 1 hour outside our town. Unfortunately this vet is on vacation for the next two weeks and we have to wait until he gets back. 

        Lucy is still eating, her poops are irregular shaped but constant. We applied vaseline on her neck (that’s all we had) and will be going out to purchase Desitin ointment tomorrow.

        PLEASE if you have ANY advice let us know. We are very distraught (I listen to her choke every night and it’s torture). 

        Let me know if you need any more info.

        Thank you guys so much in advance. We are at a loss for what else we can do.


      • Eepster
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          While I think the first vet is probably correct from a medical point of view, his attitude sucks big time. It really sounds like at this point your choices are to risk surgery, or put her to sleep, b/c her quality of life will just keep declining. The big questions with surgery aren’t simply, what are her chances of surviving it (I’ll assume the 10% was accurate, for the moment) it also is a question of whether or not the stress of the surgery will leave her respiratory problems worse and lower her quality of life. Basically, after the surgery will she go back to being a happy comfortable bunny, or will she still be an uncomfortable wheezing bunny, who just happens to be able to eat.

          I don’t think this can wait till the other rabbit savvy vet is available. Could you take her to a general practice vet to get another opinion?

          As for feeding her this weekend, you could try giving her carrot baby food from a dropper.


        • dewey
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            First, your bunny is adorable! 

            I had a dwarf bunny, unknown breed, several years ago.  When I adopted her, she had overgrown front teeth and the sneezing, runny nose, congestion going on. When this tiny bunny slept, you could hear her snoring on the 2nd floor of our home!  I am not saying this is the answer or even the right thing to do, but our vet had her on injections to try and clear it up just a little.  I got a 2nd opinion and that vet said it was the teeth causing the problem, but offered no solution.  

            We tried the injections and had some limited success with them for several years. It wasn’t Baytril, but we alternated 2 different medicines. But my thinking was, could it clear things up enough to give her a better chance to survive the surgery?  Again, it was just a thought.  


          • lucygoosey
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              UPDATE:

              First off thank you guys so much for the advice. It’s been about 2 months now and I’m happy to report Lucy is doing very well! Our 2nd opinion turned out to be a life saver. This vet said Lucy’s teeth were absolutely FINE as in, not overgrown, no spurs, absolutely no need for grinding at the moment. This makes me extra suspicious of the 1st vet we went to. Mind you BOTH these vets are EXPERTS in bunnies, but the 1st vet recently opened up his own practice and I think the expenses are catching up to him so maybe he’s resorting to not so ethical ways to grab money. It’s sad, because he was a good holistic vet, but now I’ve lost ALL trust in him.

              Anyways, 2nd vet says even in the event we need to trim Lucy’s teeth, he has a special method he’s been using on geriatric bunnies for anaesthesia that is much easier on them. Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about that yet, but it’s nice to know Lucy has a better chance of waking up should we need to grind her teeth down!

              In the end, he gave some pain medication (Metacam) since at her age she is most likely got some arthritis and some antibiotics (Not Baytril but another one I’ve forgotten at the moment) for the chronic snuffles. Since the vet about a month ago, she’s been doing GREAT. She’s even started jumping up on our bed to snuggle every morning which is extra sweet!

              Thank you all for your thoughts!
              We wish everyone a Merry Bunsssmas!!


            • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                Thanks for the update! I’m so glad to hear she’s doing so well!

                So what was done to stop her from the choking/saliva thing that was happening? Do you know what the cause was?


              • Etihtsarom
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                  Oh I remember this, Im so glad to hear she’c come out of trouble zone.


                • Monkeybun
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                    Oh, I’m so glad! That first vet… grr! Glad you got her in to the other vet, sounds like a much better option, obviously

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