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- 05/25/2013 at 9:48 AM
  Mother1978
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  If you remember, I am the poster with the rabbits with weird teeth. Or actually no teeth. I posted pictures about it a few weeks ago.
  
  Well, what crap the vet was. Three times they changed the time because their specialist couldn’t see me when they would make the appointment. In the end it wasn’t even a mouth specialist I saw. It was just some general dog and cat vet. Ugh…. I really don’t like this country I live in sometimes. They pull stunts like this all the time. There’s no such thing as ‘customer service’ here, like in Australia, where I am from.
  
  Anyway, here is what information she gave about Nelly and Bob.
  
  Bob’s upper front teeth (the ones behind the front upper teeth which grab food) don’t exist. None at all. No indication of ever even having any. Or any formed in the gum area.
  
  Apparently Bob has upper front teeth, but they keep breaking at the gum line. You can barely see them. The vet gave no explanation for this happening.
  
  She ‘thinks’ the lower teeth could be deep in his gum somewhere, but probably also don’t exist.
  
  She just said Bob needs an x-ray to determine really what’s going on with his whole mouth, but there’s no swelling or redness to indicate pain or any problems where there are no teeth, so I am not getting it done right now. He eats if I blend his food up. I can’t change his mouth malformation, even with an x-ray. So I’ll let it be for now. It would cost 100’s of euros I can’t justify at this point. But I will save up money and get it done. If the vet said there’s no redness or swelling to indicate pain and he can eat, then I think it’s alright I have time to save up for the x-ray.
  
  Nelly had one of those upper teeth which grab food removed because it was abnormal.
  
  Her lower teeth are much thinner than they should be. Again, the vet wasn’t able to give any reason why. What kind of a vet is this? It’s the same with all vets I’ve been to with my rabbits. They can never give any answers. But I bet if I took a dog or cat, they could tell everything. Ugh. It irriates me LOL.
  
  Nelly’s malformation of the lower jaw is quite bad. But nothing can be done about it. It just sticks out so much further than her upper jaw. Since I’ve already been cutting my old man Jim’s teeth for almost 10 years, I can do Nelly’s too.
  
  I asked the vet if she’d take out Nelly’s teeth by the roots, because I have to blend their food up anyway for my two other rabbits. She just made some stupid excuse about it being too difficult. Bla.
  
  But for both rabbits, their premolars and molars existed and were just a bit sharp, but no spikes. So they sanded them down to round again.
  
  I am just so disappointed in having the appointment changed three times and lied to. A friend now gave me information on a specialist I could take my rabbits to, but the place is quite far from where I live. Over an hour away. Hey, that’s far for this little country I live in LOL.
  
  But I am happy both buns don’t seem to be suffering in any pain.
- 05/25/2013 at 10:07 AM
  Bam
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  Perhaps you could find a rabbit-savvy vet in Sweden? If I remember correctly, you’re in Finland.
  
  I live in the south of Sweden so I only know of a rabbit-savvy clinic near Malmö, but they have a good reputation and one vet there is very interested and eager to learn about rabbits. Anyway their home-page is only in Swedish but their e-mail address is info@fagelkliniken.se. You could always e-mail them and ask, show the pics, perhaps the’ll have some advice or sth for you. If they don’t reply you’d at least have tried. Here’s the adress to the homepage, but as I said, it’s in Swedish: http://www.fagelkliniken.se/
- 05/25/2013 at 1:55 PM
  Mother1978
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  Thanks!
  
  I’ll get a Finnish friend to look at the site for me and have her translate what I write. As you might know, Swedish is the other national language here. So plenty of people I know can speak at least some of it. Though it is comical that most people speak fluent English, and don’t really care to learn Swedish LOL. I just laugh about it all the time. But I do have a friend who comes from a Swedish speaking Finnish Family. She can help me.
  
  I just don’t understand how it’s just all cats and dogs here. Or maybe it’s just where I live? I live in such a small place outside of the Helsinki metropolitan area. Lots of forest and lots of farmland. And lots of dogs. I see people walking them everyday all day long. I use to see one really great vet who was good with rabbits, but she left the country.
  
  I don’t think I could take my rabbits to Sweden. Maybe on one of the big ferries, Silja Line or something. But is that even allowed? I don’t know. I can’t take them on a plane, they’d be put in cargo and that would be terrifying. So hopefully if I get a reply to an email, they’ll direct me to someone here in Southern Finland.
  
  Thank you so much!
- 05/26/2013 at 2:43 AM
  Bam
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  Many Finns won’t speak Swedish even if they could. I think it’s something to do with history and the Finnish upper-classes speaking Swedish and a civil war in the 19hundreds. I’m not quite sure about the details but it was dreadful and cruel.
  
  I think the Finns may have very little time for little fluffy pets such as rabbits. Dogs can do work. Bunnies are just fluffy and delicate and lovely. There is a saying in Sweden about Finns, that they regard many things, including all Swedish men, as (sth for) “homosexuals and old women”. This is obviously a prejudice but I beleive there’s at least a tiny bit of truth in it. You’d find the same attitude in the very north of Sweden.
  
  You actually could travel with rabbits between Finland and Sweden but it would of course be awfully stressful for them. But its EU and you wouldn’t need a passport for them.
  
  I so hope you’ll be able to get some help for your little darlings.
- 05/27/2013 at 8:15 AM
  Mother1978
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  Thanks.
  
  Fins hate having to learn Swedish. They hate you owned Finland for so long and made Fins change so much stuff. Fins hate how the Swedes wouldn’t help them in their time of need. You guys turned your backs on Finland when they so desperately needed help. But that stuff is all ancient history and no one gives a rat’s a*se about it anymore….. Mostly I just think Fins hate Swedes because of ice hockey, nothing else LOL.
  
  Actually, we have a Finnish magazine about rabbits. It comes out 4 times a year I believe. It’s not a translated magazine, but actually made in Finland. There are many people who have proper websites about breeding ‘show rabbits’ etc. Of course there are the losers who take them as pets and don’t really care. And let them go when their bunnies start to act like bunnies do. But there are still plenty of people who take owning buns seriously. You have to have certifications and whatnot. There are competitions and whatnot. Just the same as everywhere, I suppose. But on a much smaller scale.
  
  I think that vet I use to see is going to return to Finland. If she does, I’ll take my buns to her. She was very good with them. I don’t think she was a rabbit specialist, but she was the nicest and well informed about rabbits vet I’ve ever seen.
  
  Actually there are quite a few people who breed them for showing. There’s even a rabbit magazine, that is made in Finland, not some imported/translated one.
- 05/27/2013 at 8:40 AM
  Bam
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  Sorry if I’ve offended you. I’m from a part of Sweden that more or less belonged to Denmark when Finland belonged to Sweden. We weren’t ok with the Swedish king at all for a very long time after we were surrendered to Sweden in some peace in 1648-sth. But it’s not sth I think of every day exactly. Old historic grudges are best left to rest I think because nothing good comes from reviving old conflicts.
  
  I’ve met many Finns through my work, people who came here to work in the 1950-60ies and very often contracted work-related injuries because they worked very hard, like triple-shifts carrying bricks, never complaining until they more or less collapsed. One Finnish lady I knew had a stroke while she was swimming, she didn’t stop swimming though until she had finished the laps she’d set out to do, before she got out of the pool and asked for help to get to the hospital. An admirable people. I hope I didn’t come off as resenting Finns or Finland, because I truly don’t. But I do believe life in Finland at times have been very tough and that have made the people tough. And if you have a tradition of toughness, the care of house-rabbits wouldn’t perhaps be your first priority. But that was just a (prejudiced) guess on my part and I’m very glad to hear that I was wrong.
  
  In Sweden lots of people just let their buns out when they get tired of them, that’s how I got my buns. People laugh at buns here, they are children’s toys more or less. I don’t think there’s a magazine but many forums where show-rabbit-breeders discuss, most of them seem to be about 15 years old though and I don’t like to read about culling kits etc because it makes me sad, that’s why I’ve come to this forum instead.
  
  Anyway, hope your vet comes back. I wish you and your buns all the best.
- 05/29/2013 at 1:34 AM
  Mother1978
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  You didn’t offend me at all LOL.
  
  I am not even Finnish LOL. I am Australian. I just live here because I can’t go home to Australia. I have a child, who’s Father divorced me and seems to have all the rights. But enough of that…. Can’t change anything.
  
  I am sure there is a lot of history between Fins and Swedes. But I don’t think Fins really care. They only care about ice-hockey LOL. And hate havng to learn Swedish. Maybe that part p*sses them off that they have to learn a language of some evil empire who overtook their country years ago LOL. Only 5% of Fins are true Swedish speaking people anyway. Usually they are in areas going closer towards Sweden than anywhere else.
  
  Fins are only tough because they had to learn to be. They kicked Russia and Germany’s behinds in the wars. That’s pretty impressive for a tiny country. But in general they’re just spoilt Westerners these days LOL. I think if the same wars happened again, Fins would flee for their lives nowadays. The younger generations are very different to the older ones.
  
  If you look on Youtube you can find all kinds of rabbit videos from Sweden and Norway. Norway seems to like rabbits a lot.
  
  I get laughed at when people find out I have pet rabbits. Yeah, a 34 year old woman with pet rabbits is an oddity, I suppose. But since I don’t like dogs, can’t stand them in fact. And I don’t really want a cat. Then rabbits it is I did want a Chinchilla once. But I found out they can live for more than 20 years. Vetoed that idea. The thought of buying the special sand they needed to clean themselves in, put me off the idea LOL. The cost would have been insane.
  
  But there are plenty of adults here who breed show rabbits etc. I got my second rabbit from a breeder who gave me a stack of papers about Bella’s (the rabbit’s name) heritage. Her parents and whatnot. That was one dedicated rabbit owner.
- 05/29/2013 at 12:56 PM
  Bam
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  Lots of Swedish people care a huge lot about ice-hockey too. Not me though or any of my family. We have a kind of good team (by Swedish standards) near my town, but I don’t think any one of the players is from this region. But I have a vague notion of Finland and Sweden being like arch-rivals in ice-hockey.
  
  Sorry to hear about your problems with the father of your child. I have a friend who has a child with an Australian woman. When they went their separate ways she took their son with her back to Australia and he comes to visit his dad for a month every summer and the dad goes to see them in Australia every other year. But they parted as friends, more or less. Hope you can work sth like that out too, given time.
  
  Norway does seem to like rabbits a lot. There is a great Norwegian rabbit-forum, there is no Swedish equivalent.
  
  People laugh at me too for being a grown-up with 2 bunnies, but at least they laugh in a kind-ish way. And when I tell them my buns are litter-trained they all get genuinely surprised and rather impressed. Generally rabbits are kept in small cages here or outside in hutches.
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