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    • Roberta
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        Hi All,

        A friend rescued and adopted this little guy. (Now called Buddy) He was found huddled in the lunch room at work. No sign of Mum or siblings.

        He has been to the vet for a check up and is fit and healthy. The vet does not know if he is a wld bun or domestic, he does however have loppity ears which are starting to drop. Our wild buns are usually greyer but I have seen brown ones too.

        Maybe its the result of Wild meets dumped Domestic (which is another reason they are all watching to see if they can spot Mum and catch her and the others)

        Any ideas… Wild, Domestic or Blended ?

        Which ever, he has a loving home for life… His new Slave will be joining us shortly.


      • Kokaneeandkahlua
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          Definitely looks wild. I was going to suggest you release him, but I think I recall that Australia is not exactly kind to feral/wild rabbits? Maybe it’s best to contact a wildlife agency to see what they suggest. I don’t know what the wild rabbits look like in Australia, but that certainly looks like a wild baby bunny you’d find out here. Hmm-good luck! Keep us posted on your plans!


        • Roberta
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            Yes, With Myximatosis and Calici, not to mention feral foxes, cats and dogs the lifespan would be pretty short. The Vet isn’t sure it is wild but he’s not sure its domestic either… Do wild buns have lop ears ?


          • Freyja
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              I highly recommend against releasing..i’ll refrain on going on a conservationist rant but rabbits are an enormous problem to the native biota here and releasing is very environmentally irresponsible and illegal in some cases.Wild rabbits here in aus are the same species as domestic rabbits unlike in America where i believe wild buns are cotton tails which are a different species to tame buns. Therefore wild and domestic buns are able to interbreed here as they are the same species and if its ears are lopping could very well be a mix of wild and tame bun. Wild buns do not normally have lopped ears. This buns best chance in life would be with a loving family


            • Roberta
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                I agree with you Freyja, Better a happy neutered house rabbit than a randy feral rabbit breeding more babies to be poisoned, diseased, hunted or eaten by other ferals. Regardless of wild or domestic Buddy is now destined to be a spoiled rotten house rabbit.

                Buddy’s new Mummy Aimee is going to check out Binky Bunny tonight.


              • Sarita
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                  I have to say that it is really hard to tell. I know our cottontails have a little white mark on their heads when they are babies. I do not see that with this baby. Just because they have the coloring doesn’t necessarily mean they are wild rabbits. Wild and domestic rabbits cannot breed.

                  In honesty, his ears are too long for any wild baby bunny I’ve ever seen. He’s adorable.

                  The best thing would be to have a wildlife rehabber look at it before releasing it to make sure it’s wild, because I’m just not convinced.


                • Sarita
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                    And lop ears are strictly domesticated rabbits.


                  • Roberta
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                      Unfortunately wild rabbits aren’t classified as Indigenous Fauna down here, they are considered a feral pest. So there is no chance of finding a wildlife sanctuary. Releasing Buddy would be a death sentence to either die by disease or attacked and eaten by another feral animal.


                    • RabbitPam
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                        It definitely looks like the wild brown bunnies we have here in FL. However, if it’s ears are lopping, I don’t think that ever happens in the wild, so I would guess that it’s a dumped domestic that mated with a wild. It was in your lunchroom? Have you checked under the building for other babies or a nearby bush where the mother might have abandoned it?

                        He’s very cute. I don’t know what other differences there are between wild and domestic in terms of health or behavior. It would be very interesting to see how this one grows up in a domestic setting. And he’ll be neutered eventually, so that is beneficial as well.


                      • Roberta
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                          Here in Western Australia have problems with termites, sandy soil, swamp and limestone so we don’t have cellars. Most buildings are directly erected on solid concrete slabs. The attached pic is an old one of the Trademart Nursery, the A in the red bubble is roughly where the lunchroom is. Buddy must have travelled a fair distance to make it to the lunchroom unless Mummy is somewhere in the nursery area. They are looking but nothing yet. Because a large area is enclosed in shade cloth or green houses Mummy could well have made her nest inside to avoid the worst of our wet winters down here.

                           


                        • Sarita
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                            I really don’t think he’s wild. And domestic and wild cannot mix because of different choromosomes. I think he’s domestic for sure.


                          • bullrider76543
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                              The ears look to large for a wild rabbit, and the coloring really isnt too much of a tell as Hazel has the same coloring, I wouldn’t release it, cause it wount live long out in the wild. It would be better to fix it and prevent more babies running around.


                            • Roberta
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                                Oh, and Buddy was found at our Forrestdale site. This is my office roughly 75 kilometres North. My den is in the building marked in the yellow circle.

                                 

                                 

                                When I arrived feral kittens were killed to keep them from breeding. I made it known that I would not let that happen and instead they were brought to my office and rehomed. We now have an almost non existent feral cat population. Even the owners who were in favour of killing initially, jumped on board when there was an option to rehome and sterilize. 

                                Now our staff are becoming Bunny Savvy too…. It doesn’t take long for a whisper to become a shout.

                                Buddy is proof. Benara Nurseries is employing the next gen of animal advocates. (Sorry, Thats not a promo. Its an ovation. I am pretty damn proud of my employers and the people they have working for them right now)


                              • jerseygirl
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                                  Cuuuute! I vote he is a domestic lop or lop cross. Chestnut agouti like my Rumball. : )

                                  How old do you think he is Roberta? his face appears too round to be a wild bun but if he’s really young that could change quickly.


                                • MimzMum
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                                    He most certainly is of the Cute Breed. (Squee!) And a very lucky bun even if he was a wildie.
                                    The situations for bunnies in both Australia and New Zealand appears to be very different than here in the states. Their lives in the wild, domestic or otherwise, can be hazardous at best. I agree that s/he has the best chance in a home.
                                    Looking forward to seeing more about this adorable wee bub. What a precious face! And if there are others about or even mum I hope they can be helped as well.
                                    Bless xx


                                  • LBJ10
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                                      Look at that face! He looks domestic or mixed to me. Since wild rabbits there are the same as domestic rabbits, I don’t see any reason not to give him a home.


                                    • bullrider76543
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                                        LOL like I said he looks like my hazel did when we got him.

                                        Chipmunk is the one with the white, and Hazel is the other one that is chestnut

                                         


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                                          He’s adorable! I’m glad that he has loving family to go home to. I had no idea that rabbits were not indigenous to Australia. I’m very happy for your work! I can’t believe you were able to make such an amazing change. Go you! I wish people were not so closed minded where I live. When I bring up the fact that I have a pet rabbit who I house inside and DO NOT intend to EAT. People look at me funny and mutter something about me being a weird city girl. Were people receptive to your ideas of change at first?


                                        • Roberta
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                                            Hi Skippers Mum, With the kittens they leapt on the idea. The chance to rescue and rehome was very attractive to them. Its taken a bit longer with the buns but as they see pics and hear stories they keep warming to the idea more and more. Had to listen to a few “I had a bunny but it died” stories and grit my teeth and gently tell them what the possible causes were and what they would need to do if they ever decided to have another rabbit. Most were traumatised by the original loss and had decided not to try again for fear of losing another pet but armed with the right information their attitudes seem to be changing for the better.
                                            Hi Jersey girl, the vet told Aimee his is 4 weeks but eating well and his teeth and weight are good which makes me think Mummy Bunny is still in the area or was until very recently.


                                          • LBJ10
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                                              I completely understand why people in Australia don’t like wild rabbits. They damage the ecosystem there because they don’t belong there. There are problems in Hawaii with feral cats and other introduced species. They are killing all of the native birds.

                                              Roberta – I think it’s great that you are trying to rescue those animals. They don’t belong there in the wild and if you can find them homes then that is a better outcome for them. =)


                                            • Freyja
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                                                I dont know if you read my post Sarita but we do not have cottontails here in Aus and our wild buns are the same species as our domestic buns (the euopean rabbit Oryctolagus cuniculus) I’ve studied conservation biology for 4 years and have seen many instances of wild and domestic buns breeding and he could definitly be a mix of both


                                              • Roberta
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                                                  Hi Frejya,

                                                  A lot of people don’t realise the rabbit is not indigenous here or how they were introduced. Hares for instance, there are no Hares in Australia but due to European settlement and livestock brought out during our penal colony days and later immigrants coming for cheap farm land we have an abundance of introduce feral animals like the fox… Most people don’t know they were introduced by European officers and later farmers so that they could still enjoy fox hunting.

                                                  But given that rabbits and hares are indigenous to most other continents it is understandable that people don’t realise… I suppose in the long run we got Kangaroos and Wallabies, kinda like big bunnies….


                                                • Sarita
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                                                    I did know that rabbits weren’t indigenous to Australia. I’m guessing that our cottontail is a different species then…


                                                  • Freyja
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                                                      sorry did i didnt mean to sound know-it-all if it came across that way lol sorry that really wasn’t my intention! As Roberta said rabbits were introduced upon european arrival and have been and unfortunatley still are one of the major causes of multiple species decline and extinction here in Aus. In America your wild cottontail buns are from a different genus to ours, cottontails are genus Sylvilagus whilst european wild buns/domestic buns are genus Oryctolagus (and are both also the same species)


                                                    • Sarita
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                                                        Nah, you didn’t sound that way at all. I understand it now actually, so thank you :~) I think my head just thinks Cottontails and I guess I thought they were the same, but they aren’t…

                                                        So, are your wild rabbits then more like feral rabbits? I wondered that after reading your thread and then looking it up on-line but it doesn’t seem feral is the right description either.


                                                      • Freyja
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                                                          oh good
                                                          they are ‘feral’ in the sense that they are an introduced, non-native invasive species that has established itself and thrives throughout most of Australia. They unfortunately compete with many of our native wildlife for food and shelter, and ‘kick’ many of our burrowing native animals out of their homes. They also damage
                                                          vegetation by ringbarking trees and shrubs and consume seeds and seedlings of plants to the point where it prevents bush regeneration. They are a very big problem here and are responsible for many species decline and even extinction.
                                                          In saying all that i must sound very anti-bunny, but im not! They are a big problem in the wild but that does not mean that they should not be kept as pets, so long as the owner is responsible and keeps their bun in a safe escape-proof environment and makes sure to desex


                                                        • jerseygirl
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                                                            In saying all that i must sound very anti-bunny, but im not! They are a big problem in the wild but that does not mean that they should not be kept as pets, so long as the owner is responsible and keeps their bun in a safe escape-proof environment and makes sure to desex

                                                            Agreed!
                                                            The biggest frustration to me is that it was a human created problem. It’s a perculiar situation to be in, being of fan of the domestic pet and still acknowledging the negative impact rabbits have here. My father & brother farms (mainly cereal crops) & are seeing a big rise in them at the moment.

                                                            There is talk of another release of a calici strain (RHVD) to try and control and I have big fears of what that may mean for our domestic pets.


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                                                              Hi Jersey girl, the vet told Aimee his is 4 weeks but eating well and his teeth and weight are good which makes me think Mummy Bunny is still in the area or was until very recently.

                                                              That’s how old Tim was estimated to be and he did super despite my fears at the time. I hope the same is true for Buddy also.

                                                              I’m undecided now whether he’s a bush bun, domestic or both. Lol

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