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Forum BONDING Finding Humphrey a New Friend

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    • Hannah
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        So, a few weeks ago my little grumpy dwarf Perry passed away rather suddenly of a not-eating/bloating issue that escalated from “normal happy bunny” to “routine trying to scare me” to “he probably won’t make it” in a matter of hours. I miss him terribly; he was an incredibly special little rabbit, even though (and maybe because) he was kind of a bully and kind of Bunny Hugh Hefner. I always joked that we needed to get him a smoking jacket to lounge in.  Looking back, however, his health had been gradually declining throughout the year– he had a handful of stasis scares, an infection and a bout of torticolis– and he had become much more laid back and cuddly; I suspect that he was older than I thought. He was a shelter rabbit who had been abandoned, so his age was uknown when he arrived into foster care. I know rabbit age is usually estimated by the teeth, but Perry’s teeth were impeccable his entire life (in fact, vets regularly commented on how amazing his teeth were), and so I would not be surprised if the foster network had lowballed his age based on that.

        So here’s the deal, now: Perry was sort-of-bonded to Humphrey, my other bunny, and Humphrey has not been a happy bunny since it happened. They were not actually cage mates (but lived in one x-pen with a divider that they could groom through) and had an utterly bizarre relationship; they day they met it was love at first sight (mutual grooming, flopping, food sharing– it was like they were already bonded), but then I took them home and Perry decided that biting was more fun than licking and they quickly started fighting. Put them in the same space and Perry would “gently” nibble Humphrey’s butt and sides until Humphrey got fed up, and then they would run in circles tugging out one another’s butt fur. Move them too far away from one another and they would mope and pine and stare longingly at one another from across the room. Through the divider they cuddled and groomed and were the best of friends, without the divider the fur went flying. Also, they got along fine on armchairs for whatever bizarre reason, but no other kind of furniture. Nearly four years of trying on and off to get them to really bond, and not a single thing changed about this behavior– they were happier as “frenemies.” I think Perry maybe had a persecution complex and wanted to be the star of a cheesy romantic melodrama or something.

        Even so, Humphrey seems very lonely without Perry. He has been very needy and obsessed with grooming everything– his new stuffed penguin, me, my boyfriend, the couch, the carpet, whatever– and so I’ve decided that even if I’m not ready for a new rabbit, I need to think of Humphrey’s needs first. I would love to try and document the bonding process from start to finish, as, well… it didn’t exactly work out last time, and I think I could use some advice.

         

        Since it’s been a while since I was last active on these forums, this is the bunny in question:

        He’s not usually quite so scruffy– he was shedding when I took this. He just posed so nicely I needed to use it.

        Humphrey fluctuates around 8 and 9lbs, is probably around 5 or 6, although he was found on the side of the road, so who knows. I’ve had him about four years, though, so he’s at least four and a half, as he had already hit sexual maturity by the time they found him. He’s neutered, and generally speaking is quite healthy. He does have fur missing on his feet, but I got him that was and it’s kind of par for the course for rexes, anyway. It doesn’t stop him from running around a binkying and escaping over 4 foot walls. (Seriously.) He can be a bit of a troublemaker and used to be fairly neurotic (I think he was abused before being dumped, as they found him covered in super glue and he used to cower and flatten himself down at sudden movements– not anymore. I could do a jig right in front of him now and he’d just watch with interest…), but he’s mostly a fairly laid back rabbit and VERY friendly. He wants to be friends with everyone, human and animal alike. However, he has become a little gunshy around other non-human creatures, as he has been bitten by basically everything he has ever tried to befriend– my mom’s bunny (who is terrified of all rabbits), Perry, two different chinchillas (they nibble for love– Humphrey will go up to the cage and stick his nose in, and the chinchilla will go “oh my! it’s a new friend! *chomp*”)– so while I think he’ll be a good bonding candidate, I think I’m going to have to take it slow and find a bunny who is not very aggressive or territorial. Humphrey has no sense of territory whatsoever, has always been more interested in male rabbits than female ones, and has been called “the girliest male rabbit ever” by a number of rabbit people, so I think he could also bond equally well with male or female bunnies.

         

        So anyway, I’m going to be out of the country for a week starting Wednesday, so I thought I would get the ball rolling so I could come back and start bunny-dating in earnest. I contacted the House Rabbit Network (where I got both Humphrey and Perry), and while they were very sad to hear that Perry had passed, they were happy that I was coming to them for a new friend for Humphrey. I specifically said I was looking for a bunny who would make a good bonding candidate and had no other caveats. They recommended a few rabbits but only one was less than an hour away, so they suggested I meet him first.

        So, yesterday Humphrey went on his first bunny date.

        This is Otis. Otis is assumed to be about 3 years old, and he’s about 6lbs. He is also completely blind and partially deaf– I’m okay with that. He gets around just fine, and while ne needs daily eyedrops he otherwise has a clean bill of health. Also, he escapes. He’s an escaping blind bunny. Like Humphrey, he was picked up on the side of the road. Otis might be the most laid back rabbit I have ever met– he was completely and utterly unbothered by being stuck in a room he had never been in before, Humphrey coming to visit, and two new people coming to fawn over him. He’s a real sweetheart– he doesn’t mind being carried, takes immediately to new people, and doesn’t seem to have an aggressive or territorial bone in his body– and oh yeah, he was only neutered ten days ago, so this is with male hormones still floating around inside him!

        Anyway, I am cautiously optimistic about how the date went. It was not love at first sight (but frankly, I don’t trust love at first sight anymore, so I’m okay with that! ), but they largely ignored each other and were very relaxed. Humphrey was a little strange when we first got there– a few times he went up to Otis, seemed fine, and then suddenly got terrified and bonked him on the head and ran away. However, Otis didn’t retaliate at all, there was absolutely no biting, and as their date went on Humphrey seemed to calm down somewhat and stopped with the bonking. There was food out and they didn’t fight (mostly Humphrey just ate it al– he is a pig, and Otis apparently doesn’t do much eating outside his scheduled meal times), they happily shared a litterbox, both of them explored the room without seeming worried about one another, and they also both did comfy dead bunny flops. Humphrey even stayed perfectly still at one point when Otis came over to sniff him while he was flopped.

        When I return from vacation, I plan on bringing Humphrey to meet Otis again. I may still bring him to meet some other bunnies anyway, although Otis is such a sweetie that I’m partially tempted to scoop him up before someone else does… Anyway, what do you guys think? Promising first date? What do you recommend I do from here? Sorry for such a ridiculously long post! 


      • Elrohwen
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          I’m so sorry to hear about Perry! He sounds like a special little guy.

          Otis also sounds like a fantastic bun. With a personality like that he could probably bond with anybody, so I hope things work out with Humphrey. He sure is a cutie too! I would definitely take him home and start some bonding since you love him and it seems like they would be a pretty easy bond.


        • Hannah
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            Firstly, Elrohwen, thank you. Perry is greatly missed. However, I have a bonding update! I got back from vacation to find an e-mail from Otis’ foster mom saying that a few people who weren’t looking to bond Otis but take him as a single bunny were pestering her, but that she prefered him as a bunny friend and so had been warding them off while I was gone. A second bunny date led to me signing adoption papers, and last night Otis came to join the household!

            I had spent the afternoon setting up the cage so that it was divided by NIC cube pieces and adding in shelves, and when I brought Otis home I decided to see how he and Humphrey did with just those dividers and no, say, cardboard or plexiglass, and the two of them touched noses through the holes and then sat down next to each other like they’ve been roomates for years. I’d say it took Otis all of 10 minutes before he was flopped and totally settled in the new cage, and Humphrey keeps trying to lick his butt through the grates. The even made it through the night with no incident. If they keep acting like this, it should be a pretty easy bond, I hope!

            Anyway, I’m mostly leaving them alone for now so Otis doesn’t get too stressed out (and on top of that I have to babysit my boyfriend’s nephew today), but they seem pretty happy and hopefully once the heat wave we’re having breaks, I can move them out of the only air conditioned room and into somewhere neutral to start bonding in earnest. Here are some pictures!

            You can see Oti’s beautiful bald spot in this one– he decided to start shedding like two days before I got him.

            I think they’re plotting to eat me here– the glowing red and white eyes are kind of ominous!

            The new cage setup…

            And Otis enjoying his ceramic tile in a shot that makes Humphrey look like 7 times larger than him. Humphrey’s big, but not THAT big.

             

            Anyway, hope all goes well! I’ll keep everyone updated.

             

             


          • Hannah
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              Sorry for the double post, but I figured I should add some some extra information and questions for starting since my last bond went so incredibly poorly (for those who don’t know the story, Humphrey and Perry were love at first sight bunnies who then promptly decided they hated each other when I brought Perry home (except that their cages had to touch– they freaked out if I separated them, and freaked out worse if they were in the same cage), and after more than a year of zero progress I decided that all three of us were happier and less stressed out with them as roommates rather than a bonded pair). 

              So here’s some stuff that might be important:

              Humphrey is a pig. If there is food, he will not stop eating until it is gone, no matter how much food he has already eaten, and largely in under 20 minutes. While I haven’t had long to examine Otis’ eating habits (he takes breaks but has eaten everything I’ve given him), his foster mom mentioned that he’s not very excited by most food. I’m worried that this could be a problem for bonding, as I’m afraid Humphrey might just finish his food and move on to Otis’, since he doesn’t finish that quickly.

              Otis is taking a drop of Flurbiprofen Sodium (which totally sounds like a fake drug) in each eye every night for his cataracts, and Humphrey is an eye-groomer. So long as no grooming occurrs right after the drops are given, does anyone know if that might be a problem? 

              And finally, Otis was only neutered about a month ago, and as of the last bunny date (Tuesday), he was still a little humpy. Obviously Humphrey can’t get pregnant, what with being a neutered male, but he doesn’t particularly seem to enjoy the humping, so should I maybe wait a while to start bonding proper, or just discourage the behavior when it occurs?

              Thank you! Hope anyone who lives where it’s hot right now is keeping cool.


            • jerseygirl
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                I’m happy to read you ended up bring Otis home. He sounds like a lovely bunny!

                I don’t have a lot of advice to offer. Regarding the humping, I suppose you could wait a bit longer to commence bonding to see if he settles a bit more. Though at age 3 it might be more habit for Otis
                Humping during bonding stems from so many things. Stress, excitement, dominance roles etc So let it happen but not when it’s becoming detrimental. i.e. causing too much stress on
                Humphrey or causing bad fighting and making the bonding head south.


              • Beka27
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                  He’s so cute! Definitely let him get settled in. Hopefully everything will go smoothly this time.

                  (FYI: I did go in and edit your posts to reduce the size of the pics. They were very large and required scrolling over to view the full picture. Now the whole pic can be viewed on the same screen.)

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