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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Sneezing? Has returned!

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    • BaileyBun
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        Logan, the new bunny, has been sneezing since I brought him home 3 days ago.  He sneezes about once an hour- although while I’ve been at my computer, I’ve heard him sneeze about 6 times in the past hour (and another 3 while I’ve been typing this message!).  I’m trying to figure out what might be triggering his sneezes.  So far, I’ve noticed that he sneezes after running around, after grooming himself, after eating hay, while he’s laying down, while he’s in his cage, while he’s out of his cage getting exercise… so I can’t figure out what’s going on.  His foster mom said that this is unusual, and that it might be the hay, might be allergies or a cold, or could be that the stress of being in a new place is bringing out an underlying illness.  I’m trying to figure out what else might possibly be making him sneeze.  I’m going to spray his hay with water tonight and see if that helps, but I’m wondering if anyone knows of any other environmental things that might make him sneezy.  He has wood stove pellets/Yesterday’s News litter, a woven grass hidey box, and a large towel in his cage.  I took out the towel for 2 days, and nothing changed.  Took out the house for a day, no change (except he was mad because I took away his favorite place to hang out, so I put it back).  The only thing I haven’t messed with is his litter (litterbox gets changed every night).  If I can’t rule anything in his environment out, I’ll be taking him to the vet soon.  Anyone have any experience with this?  Advice/tips?  Thanks!!


      • jerseygirl
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          I wonder about the wood pellets or even dust from yesterdays news. If he gets dust from either on his fur, that could be why he sneezes after he grooms himself. Same could be true pf hay dust also.  I suspect one of my bunnies is a bit sensitive to pine(?) pellets as she sneezed a bit when I use them. I haven’t tested this by reintroducing them. What litter did he have in the foster home? 


        • BaileyBun
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            He had only wood pellets in his foster home. I’ll try taking YN out of his litterbox and see what happens.


          • Lintini
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              Hi I was going through the same thing as you and tried switching around everything in the environment thinking it was allergies. She got worse and I ended up taking her to the vet. My vet only costs 30$ to just do a checkup and if you have access to something that reasonable with a rabbit savvy vet I would go ahead and do that because I waited about 4 weeks of sneezing hoping it would pass and ended up having to spend almost 500$ because of how severe of condition her lungs were in because I didn’t take her in. Velvet is still eating and drinking and in high spirits too so I really thought it was something that was just irritating her. But I was wrong

              Jersey – After you removed the pine pellets did your bunbun not sneeze anymore? The bags I had before were dark and not pine, no smell. These new bags I have are light in color and def pine. I can see how it could upset a bunnies nose.


            • jerseygirl
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                Lintini, the stuff I used before was lighter colour. It was only after I was using a different one (darker colour) that I noticed Jersey wasn’t sneezing anymore. She was never too bad with it but I rarely hear a sneeze now. I figured perhaps she was a bit sensitive to pine or whatever the lighter wood was. Smelt like pine. It’s a pity because that one was better litter.


              • BaileyBun
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                  Okay, that’s convinced me to call the vet! I just started keeping a log of when he sneezes and what he was doing before he sneezed, so maybe this can help figure out what the problem is when I take him in.
                  I can’t tell what kind my pellets are. It just says that they’re made of sawdust. They’re pretty light in color, so I’ll see what other kinds are at the store. In the meantime, maybe it would be useful to switch to newspaper or carefresh. Thoughts?


                • Sarita
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                    I would agree that since he’s new in your home you should have a vet look him over before you start your bonding.

                    Newspaper is not going to be very good at controlling odor.


                  • BaileyBun
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                      He had been examined by a vet before adoption, and had a clean bill of health, so I thought it would be okay to start bonding right away I called my vet, and they said that since he doesn’t have other symptoms like nasal discharge or wheezing, and the sneezing is a totally new thing for him, that I should switch his litter and hay to see if that makes a difference. I have an appointment early next week for him- their rabbit vet is only in a few days a week.
                      I’m wondering if I should stop the bonding, and keep him separated from Bailey (hard to do in a dorm room, but I can at least put him on the opposite side of the room) in case it’s something contagious. They’ve already had so much contact, with being in the carrier together, having close cages, and touching noses, so I’m worried.


                    • Sarita
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                        Well, I think if he got a clean bill of health already, he should be fine. It sounds environmental to me.


                      • KatnipCrzy
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                          stress can bring out a dormant issue.  Even though they have been close to each other- it might not be a bad idea to change the environmental stuff and to wait a few days to see if it gets better.  If the new bunny is stressed or possibly ill- your bunny might be able to sense that.  So it probably won’t hurt to wait a few days to see if the sneezing resolves before any purposeful bonding contact.


                        • BaileyBun
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                            Yesterday afternoon I switched to carefresh in his litterbox, and misted his hay before feeding, and this morning he was still sneezing. I cleaned everything out of his cage- towels, hidey house, toys, all the bits of hay- wiped the bottom down, moved his cage to a vacuumed and hay-free corner, and I’ve been observing him for the past three hours. He sneezed once right after I put him back in his cage, but he was sneeze-free for at least an hour in his totally empty cage (this is the longest he’s gone without sneezing since he got here). After an hour of no sneezing, I put a handful of hay (I took it out of the hay box far from his cage, let it sit for 5 minutes so the dust could settle, and sprayed it once with water before giving it to him) in his cage. Lo and behold, the sneezing returned 5 minutes after I put the hay down, and he’s sneezed another 4 times in the 45 minutes he’s had hay in his cage… although the sneezing now is definitely better than it was yesterday and the day before (last night he was sneezing about 10 times every hour). After I took the hay out, he was good about half an hour, but now he’s back to sneezing. I vacuumed right before he started sneezing again, so I’m wondering if the dust from that might be bothering him- or possibly that he’s just sensitive to dust. I noticed that my asthma flared up a bit around the time he started sneezing again, so maybe we’re sensitive to the same thing!
                            He looks miserable sitting in his empty cage, so I’m going to put his litterbox and a little hay back in his cage, and try isolating him again tonight to see what happens.


                          • BaileyBun
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                              I’m 90% sure the problem is hay. He went over to Bailey’s pile of hay, and started eating it through the pen, and boom- lots of sneezing. I pulled hay out of the bin, and he was nearby- boom, more sneezing. He’s been good all day except when he’s exposed to hay, especially when I haven’t misted the hay. He obviously needs something to eat, so I’m sticking with handfuls of misted hay until I get the chance to pick up something else. Any ideas on different types of hay that might be better for him? The hay I have now is from a nearby stable. It’s horse-quality, grass mix (not sure what kind- no timothy or alfalfa in it).


                            • Sarita
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                                Try orchard hay.


                              • helennnnnn
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                                  Have you noticed any other symptoms other than sneezing? After I got my bun at Christmas he began sneezing. After a few days he was due at the vet for a vaccination (I’m in UK) and vet told me to keep an eye on it but may be an allergy. A few days later I noticed he had a wet nose and I was finding his fur dry in places where he had obviously been wiping his wet nose and it was drying and getting matted. I took him back to vet the next day and he’s now on antibiotics! Been 2 weeks but no sign of it getting better yet 🙁 I would def take your bun to vet if you notice other symptoms as my vet told me they can be quite serious if allowed to get worse, eg if it spreads to lungs. That is a worst case scenario though obviously! Hope it is just am allergy for your bun 🙂 Mine is so far enjoying his antibiotics mashed up in some banana twice a day!


                                • helennnnnn
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                                    Oops just read your above post that already says he’s not had other symptoms! I should read more carefully 🙂


                                  • jerseygirl
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                                      You know, I sometimes read rabbits don’t really get allergies yet there seems to be some that really do! Maybe a sensitivity rather then a true allergy.  I know of a BB member whose bunny reacts this way to some hay.

                                      Hay can vary sooo much. It may just be a pollen that settles on a hay crop that is present certain times of year. Do you have any hay left from his foster home?


                                    • BaileyBun
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                                        I’m still checking him for other symptoms, but so far, so good. I’m snowed in, so I can’t pick up new hay until the roads are cleared. For now, he’s doing better when I take the hay out away from him, mist it, let it settle for a few minutes, then give it to him. He still sneezes when I put the hay out, but not as much as before- and when the hay is gone, the sneezing stops. I didn’t get any of the hay he was eating at his foster home, though in retrospect, I really should have. Maybe I’ll try getting the same hay that she uses…


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                                          I’d definitely remove all of the hay you are currently using. You can try a small amount of the hay the foster home had, or take Sarita’s suggestion and buy a completely different kind and use orchard grass. Think of it like a food allergy in a human – you might be able to eat a piece of cake made with eggs and just sneeze once or twice, but eating a hard boiled egg directly might make you break out in hives. It’s a matter of degrees when it comes to allergies, and once it’s present, it can build in your system so you are increasingly sensitive. I think he’s allergic to this hay.

                                          There’s oat hay, orchard grass, timothy hay, second cut timothy hay which is softer and sweeter, broam, wheat, and BB sells an organic meadow. You can probably find one easily that he is fine with. If so, I’d suggest switching both bunnies to the new one so he never has to breathe the one that makes him sneeze in the house again. Start with smaller bags or samples until you find one he can eat easily. Maybe BinkyBunny can send you an assortment of samples to try?


                                        • BaileyBun
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                                            I’ve already ordered a few samples of different types of hay online, and since they’re not here yet, I’m going to the store this evening to see what they have so I can stop using the hay I have now. We’re trying organic orchard, meadow, and 2nd cut timothy, plus whichever type of samples they have at the store. Thanks for all of the help!


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                                              I’m curious about misting the hay. Doesn’t that cause it to become moldy? If the hay is getting moldy that could be causing symptoms.
                                              If not, I many try it for my own bun, he sometimes sneezes quite a bit while he’s eating hay.


                                            • BaileyBun
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                                                I take a big handful of hay, put it in their box, and mist it once from a bottle of water, so it’s not actually getting wet. They eat the handful pretty quickly, usually within a few hours, so I don’t think it’s wet enough or out long enough to get moldy. I know that sometimes horse owners dunk their horse’s hay in water before feeding, and as long as the horse eats it within a few hours, there aren’t any problems.

                                                So, I tried pet store timothy, and for one, both Logan and I were sneezing like crazy, and two, the stalks of hay were all really short, so Bailey and Logan weren’t really interested in eating it. They like the long pieces. Also, the hay was really, really green. It doesn’t list coloring or additives on the ingredients label, but I don’t think hay is usually that… green. I used that hay for their morning feeding and decided to ditch that bag, because none of us liked it. Then I found this cute little country farm store (Sweet Meadow farm- for anyone near Boston, MA, and I think they ship, too) that sells hay by the bag, the box, and the bale. I brought Bailey and Logan to the store, and they let me grab a handful of hay and stick it in the carrier to see if he had any reaction. Their only reaction was to eat it I brought home a small bag of their second cut timothy, and they both love it. Logan sneezes when I take it out of the bag, but right now he’s sitting in their hay box with his head buried in the hay and he’s doing just fine.
                                                However… his sneezing still isn’t gone. Actually, he’s out of the hay box and he’s sneezing right now. He still doesn’t have any other symptoms. Maybe the old hay is still bothering him- lingering spores or something, or maybe dust from the old hay is still in his fur?? My room is carpeted, so that’s probably not helping the problem either. I still have a vet appointment for him on Wednesday, so I think I’ll take him in. Anyone have ideas on what they might check for, or any tests they might want to run?


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                                                  The sneezing has returned- he just had a sneezing fit, and I’ve heard a few sneezes today and yesterday. His nose is also wet again. Today is his last day of antibiotics, and I know for sure that he’s swallowed every single dose. He’s running around, doing binkies, and looks bright-eyed and bushytailed. Bailey still doesn’t have any of his symptoms (thank goodness!). I just don’t know what’s going on with him! His vet isn’t in the office until Wednesday (she’s the only rabbit vet at our clinic), and the receptionists/nurses can’t suggest anything except to make another appointment. I know the vet mentioned something about pasteurella, but she didn’t think that was the problem. Is pasteurella something the vet can test for? Shouldn’t antibiotics help with pasteurella? I’ve been reading up on it and it sounds so nasty- and scary! The other thing she suggested was allergies… I know with my own allergies, they’re pretty much impossible to totally control as I’m allergic to so many things, so I constantly have a sniffle. Could he have something similar going on? For now, I’m waiting until I can talk to his vet (which will be in 2 days), but I wanted to get input from BB so I can have a better idea of things to ask the vet. Ideas?? Poor Logan! I’m going to be a rabbit sneezing expert if he keeps this up.


                                                • Sarita
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                                                    Don’t be scared about pasturella – most rabbits carry this pathogen but some become symptomatic. The vet could do a culture to test for any bacteria. Pasturella is an upper respiratory infection. It may not be pasturella at all.


                                                  • BaileyBun
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                                                      Thanks Sarita. The vet is calling me tomorrow, so hopefully she’ll have some ideas.


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                                                        BaileyBun, any word from your vet? I have a constantly sneezing bun too and I’m interested in hearing how things are going for Logan. Hope he’s doing better!
                                                        Mimzy & I have been battling on and off nose issues with him for over a year now.


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                                                          No word from the vet yet. The receptionist said she would call me yesterday, but she must’ve been busy or didn’t get the message. I’ll be calling today.
                                                          He’s actually getting… worse. His last day of Baytril was Monday, and it’s been steadily getting worse, so now he’s sneezing the same amount he was before I took him in. I’m getting an air filter off Craigslist, and it gets really good reviews, so I’m going to plug that in and see how it goes (I figure even if it doesn’t do anything for Logan, at least it will help my allergies!).
                                                          Also- yesterday, Bailey sneezed, so now every time I hear a sneeze I’m trying to see which bun it came from. I think I’m going crazy!


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                                                            Hang in there. Definitely call the vet this morning and I suggest saying you’ll hold and don’t hang up until she gets the vet on the line. No bunny should wait for a consult call.
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