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    • Heiku
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         Hello… I have a problem with my bun, he has been to vet. His eye (right only) is leaking and his right nostril is still stuffed up, he did sneeze out a big gluey boogie last week. He was at the vet for exam and put on eyedrops, and also bactirum, he still has 5 days left on this antibiotic, I thought the wheezing would be done with by now. Has anyone else had sinus problems with their bun’s? He is eating fine and is pretty active too, he just gets these sneezing fits, and sounds wheezy. Can’t afford an mri for this, so wondering what to do….


      • jerseygirl
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          Have you noticed any improvement at all on the medication? Did your vet prescribe it for possible respiratory infection?

          Could there be anything in his habitat that’s irritating him. Like sawdust or wood shavings, litter dust, hay dust? etc

          Sometimes when one side is effected like this, it indicates a molar problem. Has he had any dental issues before?


        • lashkay
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            A leading cause of respiratory problems and respiratory infections is from the bunny being closely exposed to toxic ammonia it inhales from the urine when it sits on urine-soaked litter, hay and other urine contaminated surfaces. Some litters which are not effectively absorbent enough allow the bunny to be exposed to the ammonia in dangerous levels. Bunnies who sit on ruine soaked surfaces such as on peed on hay can get ammonia toxicity also. The problem is exacerbated from the bunny licking/grooming its feet bottoms after sitting in urine and feces wet with urine. Watch your bunny in the litterbox if it uses one and iIf you suspect there is a risk of your bunny having had been exposed to ammonia toxicity, while you treat your bunny with something from the vet. you can try wiping everything down with a 1 part vinegr to 1 part water solution. You can spray it on and wipe it. You can also give your bunny a footbath with it as the vinegar neutralizes the ammonia in the urine on the foot bottoms.

            About the eye discharge, what jerseygirl said was the first thing that came to my mind too – a possible dental issue. Is your vet rabbit-saavy – is he a specialist in exotic animals?


          • Beka27
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              If he finishes up the meds and there is still no improvement, the vet can do a culture test to see what is causing the problem. There may be a better med available.


            • RabbitPam
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                I think you need to wait the 5 days until he has completely finished the current dosage. Meds of that type, along with natural healing, can take a while and then “suddenly” seem effective. It’s true for humans too. No improvement, then voila. Usually a dosage is a certain number of days because all of those days are needed for the full efficacy. Don’t stop it. See how he is after the last day, and call the vet if he isn’t improved by then.


              • KatnipCrzy
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                  I would call your vet and give them an update and see if the vet makes any other recommendations or changes the medications.

                  I don’t know that I would do a vinegar footbath.  But if your bunny is stuffed up it can help to have them in the bathroom when you shower so they are breathing in the moist steamy air (just like it can help humans). It won’t sure your bunny but it can help them breathe better.


                • Heiku
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                     Well, he has just 2 more days to go. He does have molar trouble, he is seen by the vet every 6 weeks for a trimming and dental exam. The vet did check for molar problem, but there was not an indication such as pus etc. so it was not from his teeth but could have been due to the dental trims etc. But it is an infection of sinus’.  His wheezing is still there today, but a little more silent than before. When he eats his greens he really sounds conjested I think, due to all the liquid’s in the greens. I use yesterday’s news for my bun’s and keep thier houses very clean, so this is def not the issue. I will take your advice, and wait until he is done with the med’s and if he is still wheezing schedule another eye flush. Any more info is of great help thank’s guys.


                  • lashkay
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                      Yes, I agree with KatnipCrzy not to do a 50/50 vinegar/water footbath. If you tried a vinegra footbath, only a small amount of vinegar in a lot of water – maybe 5% vinegar. May do just as well without it though. Her recommendation of the moist steam from a shower sounds great but I would take it a step further and put a vaporizer near the bunny (with the electric cord covered by a chewcord protector or well out of reach of course) The constant moist steam may help and the bunny may hang out near it. Thanks, KatnipCrzy.


                    • Heiku
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                         Okay, I am taking my bun to vet in the morning, 12/1/2010. Everyone please pray for my little Fritzy.His antibiotic is going to be the last day too tomorrow, and I gave him some baby benedryl which seemed to help some. This is the worst he has been and it is his 13th day on the bactirum.Hopefully they can get the snotty out for him, we have had a vaporizer over him this whole time too. Just the right eye and nostril has troubles. Feared it might be pneumonia , but he is not turning his head upwards for air. Maybe they will put him on something a little stronger, I hope. An MRI is out of the question, we only have so much to spend.


                      • jerseygirl
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                          That’s interesting that the benadryl helped. Perhaps because his sinus has not been draining he’s been more sensitive to allergens (???)

                          The weepy eye and nose is an indicator of molar probs (especially given he has molar issues). There is a duct that molar roots can impinge on so while the vet did not see abscess or spurs, I strongly urge you to have them investigate the molar roots. An xray would be enough, no need for MRI.

                          If the problem isn’t stemming from teeth, perhaps it is just the way his sinus is shaped and prone to infections. Or something else again
                          Administering meds via a nebuliser can help sometimes. Also, nebulising with just water.  He might do well with this if you’re able to use a vaporiser with him currently.

                          The vet can swab his nose and find out exactly what infectious bug is present but truthfully, I do not know how expensive or time consuming this might be. Your vet might opt to just start a round of different meds straight away instead.

                          (((Vibes))) for you Fritzy!


                        • RabbitPam
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                            Good luck today, and I’m glad you have the appointment. Be very thorough with the vet, ask as many questions there as you have asked us, and take notes for her directions and responses. You want to have a plan of action, and also a plan of what to do “if”. So if what she tries next doesn’t help within a time frame you both agree is necessary, you know if you should call her, bring him in, fill a new prescription or whatever. You don’t want to try things without her knowing, but you need to know how she wants you to contact her if there is little progress and you’ve been given a suggestion you’d like to try.
                            {{{{{{{{{{{Healing vibes, Fritzy}}}}}}}}}}}}


                          • Heiku
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                              Thanks guys. I just got back from the vet with him. They did another eye flush and it didn’t go through, so she said his eye problem is permanent. As for the wheezing, she wanted to do a culture, (107.00), and then put him on a new med. I just said let’s just try the new med, and then see if it works first. This new med is called azithromycin, it is 58.00! It expires in 10 days, and if it does work , he needs to get it refilled 3 times for 30 days. I guess it is one of the best antibiotics on the market. It is not pneumonia at all, thank God, it is a sinus bacterial something. Anyone ever had a bun take this med? My poor little bun is so mad at me. It is going to be an expensive month, he has a dental recheck on the 20th, a possible culture, and or these new med’s to refill at 58$ a pop. I love him so, my little baby. His health will be our Christmas present this year.


                            • Sarita
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                                It’s zithromax – many people have used this for there rabbits with success. I hope it works for yours.

                                Healing vibes.


                              • Heiku
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                                   Jerseygirl, both my BF and I strongly suggested an xray, and we feel this may be it, the molar again. I am feeling horrible giving him this new med, he is not coping with it very well. He seemed so disoriented last night, and hasn’t pooped yet, I think that is normal for awhile though? SO, we are going to see if the med clears up this wheez, and if not, expect an xray!!!!  BF and I are very upset,  our normal vet (the bunny lover), was not his doctor for any of this. It will be hard to ask for the xray after going through all this and I wonder if they will let us know EVEN if it was the molar … God pray There is no way I will keep him on this new antibiotic for 40 days, if in 7 days it is not cleared, we are getting an xray, by our Rabbit lover vet. (the other is a bird lover I believe). He has never had any issues except teeth, and it is strange, with a weepy eye AND wheezing, it is something other than the molar? Could be, we will see. But what u said here feels right.


                                • Sarita
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                                    I am wondering why you think you need an xray for a molar problem. Did I miss something?


                                  • Heiku
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                                       see jerseygirls post…


                                    • Sarita
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                                        Well if the teeth roots are the problem there is not a darn thing you can do about that. My first rabbit had this problem and it was terribly frustrating and all that could be done was trying to keep his eyes dry. It was his incisors though not the molars.

                                        Nebulizing is a great option though.


                                      • Heiku
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                                          Did his sinus sound wheezy all the time too? She did tell us his eye would always be weepy, nothing can be done, but did your bun have congestion also? How did your bun do, did he live ok, or was he miserable? My bun is 8 now, dutch bun, just wondering.


                                        • jerseygirl
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                                            Will you be able to continue on with his regular vet? Just get him/her updated on treatment so far? It’s important you feel happy with your vet at a time like this.
                                            If he’s not doing so well on this med, maybe ring and ask if it’s ok to adjust the dosage. (??????)

                                            I think they can flush the tearduct as a maintenance thing to keep dpwn infection.

                                            By the way, I don’t have life experience with older rabbits or ones with dental issues where as Sarita does. She’ll be able to advise you.  It’s just I read so often when teeth are the cause of many issues and given your rabbit has a history, this makes me suspicious about the teeth. Of course, your vet (hopefully the bunny-loving one!) is the best person to direct you. We can really only give pointers and share our own experiences.

                                            I’m hoping for you and your rabbit it is something simpler that can be cleared up on these meds. {{{Vibes for your bun}}}

                                             


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                                              We will continue with our “bunny” vet, as for the tearduct, it will not flush through at all, ever. So,we wait and see what happens with this new med.


                                            • Andi
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                                                I have a chronic pasturella case bunny who’s left eye and nostril flare up with white dischage. He goes on antibiotics for 2 weeks (or longer) each time it flares up. We’ll be doing this the rest of his life.

                                                As for a tear duct, i have a Degu who’s tear duct is blocked, they are so small it cannot be fixed. Next to keeping a very clean habitat (And that’s all it took for us) you can keep the eye itself clean with a warm chamomile tea eye press. This helps naturally clean the eye and keep down the chance of infection, plus it’s inexpensive, just make sure the tea bags are 100% natural and no other plants/leaves/etc. in them. (This is not a replacement for antibiotic drops, but a treatment for prevention).


                                              • Heiku
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                                                  OK, so he has been on this new medicine for 7 days now, and it is the same problem, no better, no worse. Not sure if he is just going to have to live with this problem or not, the surgery I have read up on, for the sinus sounds very dangerous. Pretty sure now it is his tooth impinging on the sinus… PLEASE let me know your thoughts, this medicine I was sure would do “something” for him.


                                                • KatnipCrzy
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                                                    if it is caused by dental troubles- that is something a vet would have to take care of.  I don’t think medications will resolve the problem- only keep infection under control hopefully- for short term use.


                                                  • Heiku
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                                                      He just sounds worse, but is still acting “not sick”. Happiness is all I can give him right now, and continue to have his bi-monthly dentals done. No more surgeries for him, he is too old and if it is something that does not disrupt his life, he will be fine. Almost done with this antibiotic on Sat.


                                                    • jerseygirl
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                                                        Is there any gunk in his nose that you can see? You might be able to clear that using a babies ear syringe. Not to put up the nose but just to use at the tip.


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                                                           I tried that, can’t see anything and nothing coming out either. It sounds so close too, and it’s been very moist in the house, lots of rain. He has a dental exam for his teeth next week, with the regular vet, so will just see what she has to say, maybe xray, not sure.


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                                                            wondering if it is a problem if he goes under anesthesia for his teeth, if he will be ok with his nose all stuffed up?


                                                          • Karla
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                                                              A stuffed nose increases the risk of something going wrong – but only if it is due to a cold et.c. The risk is not increased because of the stuffed nose as such, but because of the general health problem at that time.

                                                              f the stuffed nose is due to dental problems, then it should not cause any problems at all.


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                                                                I just noticed another change, a change that has been since this sinus problem started; my bun used to always slobber some when he ate his greens, but really badly when he needed a dental trimming. He slobbered for 7 years we’ve had him, and now nothing, it sounds all watery in his mouth, and his nose (right side), really runny inside, no wetness outside the nose or mouth . Could this be a clue, the slobbers being gone? His lungs were checked, so it is not a sickness. He did twice sneez out some yellow/brown mucus, very thick, poor thing. Any suggestions or ideas? I feel bad just noticing his towel hasn’t had green stains on it anymore.


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                                                                  Could this be a clue, the slobbers being gone?

                                                                  Just not sure what that would be a clue to. Maybe saliva gland is not over producing like it was? Or saliva is draining away elsewhere? Or sinus used to drain into mouth causing the slobber but now isn’t because it’s blocked up?   I don’t know how that may occur anatomy wise. I had read rabbits don’t have a sinus cavity exactly.  Anyway, it’s a change worth mentioning to his vet.

                                                                  The mucus being coloured indicates infection may still be present. This has happened since his course of antibiotics?


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                                                                    Yes, and it happened during the time he was on baytril (not bactirum). The zithro did not change anything, he was on that for 10 days, and remained the same.


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                                                                      Been awhile since I have been in, but wanted to ask a few questions to everyone. I have been putting warm compress on bunny’s sinus’ and giving him a couple of craisins afterwards. Lately, his sinus stufflles are smelly, as would be mine, I have sinus troubles also and use a netty pot for them. My question is, is there any way to get that muck out, like we human’s can flush with a netti pot or use pills to help, I am using a vaporizer also, but now the mucus is all in his throat and nose, the doc said it is a problem many bunnies have to deal with, but won’t die of. I just would like to know how to get that stuff out of him! His food must taste terrible to him. And, has anyone given craisins as treats to bunnies? P.S. the baby nose sucker doesn’t work on him, mucus too thick like glue, not at all watery.


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                                                                        : ( Poor fella! This is definately mucus? Not pus from an abscess?  I’ve heard that smells awful.  I suppose any bacterial infection could smell though.
                                                                        Off hand I’m pretty certain you can’t do a flush like we can. Too much risk of them aspirating the solution. And they don’t have sinuses like ours. I think there is a med that can help break down the mucus and get it flowing more easily. Administered as drops or with a nebulizer. Gentamycin? Sorry I can’t be more certain.

                                                                        A member here (wendyzski) who has a bunny with chronic pasteurella has mentioned putting her in a steamy bathroom to help sometimes. Also she made a box or bag with vaporiser attached and put Pepper in that to help clear the gunk.  She posted a diagram I can find if you’re interested.

                                                                        Craisins=bunny happiness. : )


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                                                                          I have read that gentomicin causes brain damage. But thanks for the info. And sorry to Sarita if I offended you for listening to someone else’s advice on here also. I feel like if I knew a lot about bunnies and their tooth problems I wouldn’t take offense, but would want to give my knowledge as much as possible. Thanks for answering my personal message to by the way….


                                                                        • Sarita
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                                                                            No problem Heiku – did you ever ask your vet about nebulizing him?


                                                                          • Heiku
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                                                                              Sarita, I never got back a message from you…???????  I found out later that you were the one with the knowledge of rabbits with the kinds of problems that mine has, and I thought you took offense to my taking someone else’s advice?  I thought that is why I never got back a message from you. Anyway, if that is not the case, let me ask you a question then, and sorry if I just didn’t recieve your message by some error. Our vet’s don’t do the nebulizer, and I would think the solution is very temporary, I put him in a vaporizer tent, and also put warm compresses on his right jaw. NO avail… he has not been eating much grass, just greens, and I have noticed some weight loss. He is going to vet just for dental work, which I hope is safe with that stuffed nose, I am rather worried about that, but if he is not eating grass, it is a sign to me he needs some teeth trimmings. He has been on two antibiotics, no change, I hear of a drastic type of surgery which I will not be doing for him, sounds very new and dangerous. Now my question also for you is, his sinus’ have an odor, (as does for people when it gets all schumucky), is that normal for a bun? I am hoping when he goes for his dental the problem will be seen in his teeth and removed, God pray, thoughts apprieciated.


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                                                                                Hmmm….I thought I answered your email…sorry you didn’t get my reply!

                                                                                It’s not at all normal for his sinus to have an odor so I would be concerned. Hopefully the dental trim will help with any issues as well.

                                                                                Does the vet not nebulize because they are not familiar with this? Nebulizing with an antibiotic would help administer medication into the lungs so it can be very effective.


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                                                                                  In his last exam there were clear lungs, only the sinus’ were affected. Will he be alright going under for his tooth trimmings with his nose a plugged up or is it dangerous?


                                                                                • Sarita
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                                                                                    Honestly, I don’t know. I would ask the vet though if you are concerned.


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                                                                                      Can’t wait till I can say “problem resolved” on here! He had that dental done, and he was certainly happy afterwards, the vet said his teeth were tall and needed trimming badly. So, they were trimmed like 3 weeks ago, and he got pain killer and put on critical care. Bad part, he lost so much weight. Still not gaining any either. Rarely eats hay or drinks water, but eats “some greens” and the critical care 2x daily, very slowly cause of the plugged nose. I cannot believe how little he is, but I am getting him fed and loved. I am sure my anxiety about is not helping, but what can I do? His next appmnt. is mid March.I just hope he doesn’t suffer or even die, that is my concern.


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                                                                                        Today, I saw he had jelly egg shaped mucus in his stool?


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                                                                                          How’s he doing? Any update?

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