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FORUM DIET & CARE I don’t think Franz eats his hay…

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    • cactuspancake
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        I never have to replace his hay because it never goes down… just a little in the litterbox and he nibbles on the toilet paper rolls filled with hay but it’s next to nothing really. His poops are all healthy except for those two days when I brought him to the doctor. I give him 1/4 cup pellets/ day and maybe a cup of vegetables to see if he eats more hay but he’s not! He weighs 3.9 lbs. He’s about 12 weeks old. Also he has both timothy and alfalfa in his cage; the vet actually said baby bunnies should eat alfalfa for the first year, so I filled his hay basket with that.


      • Michelle&Lolli
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          So he is getting just alfalfa hay now? Is that when he quit eating any hay at all? If that is the case, he might just not like alfalfa. And he might not be a big hay eater in general. Some rabbits don’t eat a lot of hay.

          Case in point: Eddie wasn’t a big hay eater till I got Lollipop. And he hated alfalfa hay until he saw that “the girl” was getting something different and he had to have some too. He’d eat pieces that were on the floor in her pen that he could reach. After they got bonded, he seemed to eat more hay. But I don’t think he would’ve ever ate a lot of hay if he was an only bun. And I used to worry about that a lot too at first but just figured he was eating the timothy pellets and lettuce so he was fine.

          You might want to see if oat hay goes over better. It’s sweeter so he might like that. There’s also orchard hay as well. I know it gets expensive trying different brands, but I’m fairly certain Petsmart will let you return or exchange with a receipt. Just make sure to ask.

          I can’t remember what all I purchased, but they let me return guinea pigs and their supplies the next day. I felt so bad but I was allergic. Yep…go figure. Perfectly fine with the rabbits but allergic to Guinea pigs. lol And the bunnies WERE NOT HAPPY with new “friends”. Holy cow. If disapproving looks could kill, I’d be dead twice over. LOL


        • lashkay
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            I’ve been worrying that Petie hasn’t been eating enough timothy hay, also. His nice breeder said he was a hefty eater and when I wrote her, she suggested toilet tissue rollers stuffed with hay which as for you, have been only minimally successful. But the other day I got him an Oxbow timothy hay tunnel woven entirely of timothy hay and jammed a flake of timothy hay inside the tunnel and it’s really packed in. I don’t care if it makes a mess because he’s been eating it and there’s a lot in that flake as well as the tunnel to keep him busy. So that’s made me feel better. Alfalfa is good for the first year but give him timothy hay as well which has the fiber that keeps the hair ingested from grooming, moving through his system, especially important for long haired breeds like angoras and lionheads. Of course, they’ll probably like the taste of the alfalfa more, but at least make timothy hay available to him so he’ll eat both. Dustor sits on the big pile of timothy hay in a litterbox that has no litter in it, only hay, and he’s learned to sit there and eat hay without soiling it, once he was cemented in using his toilet litterbox filled only with litter (Carefresh) for his toilet. It always seemed to me unsanitary for a rabbit to eat hay he also poops and pees in and my bunnies’ two nice breeders confirmed what I suspected and said the animals are seriously at risk of becoming ill from doing this. I believe the bunnies of the many who follow this practice are at risk of harm to their health. I’m grateful my bunnies evidently prefer keeping their hay clean because I couldn’t take the stench of the urine soaked hay when they they were babies and hadn’t yet learned to exclusively use their litterboxes for their toilet.


          • Monkeybun
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              Monkey HATED alfalfa when I first got her, but adored the timothy. Maybe try different kinds of hay? And if he still doesn’t eat it, you may need to be tough on him, and give him no options BUT hay. No pellets, no veggies. With him being a long hair bunny, hay is doubly important for him.


            • Beka27
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                I would try orchard instead of the timothy. That seems to do the trick with many picky hay eaters.


              • RabbitPam
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                  There are several hays to choose from and they’re all good for the bunny, so it’s better to find one he likes. You can also give him smaller amounts at a time so it seems “fresh” to him as you refill it. I used to flip it over in the hay bin so it had a fresh look and smell to it. Or you can take the day old hay and put it in one end of the litter pan as you refill the hay dispenser. Spockie was a VERY picky, low level hay eater.


                • LoveChaCha
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                    I second what Monkey says. Since lil Franz is long haired, he will need to consume lots of hay. All rabbits clean themselves fanatically, so it is only natural for them to ingest their own fur. If he doesn’t consume hay his tummy could hurt

                    Orchard is YUMMY and pleasant smelling to bunnies I use it because I’m allergic to other types of hay. I have also incorporated Oat Hay as well. The texture is very rough, but good for getting stuff through the belly!


                  • cactuspancake
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                      Thanks for all the advice! He gets both types of hay; first cut timothy and alfalfa. Is there any way I can use some grass I can go out and cut with scissors? I’m positive my grass hasn’t been fertilized for at least 7 years. He likes it when I take him outside I want to get him some orchard hay but I have 7 giant bags full of hay… 6 timothy and 1 alfalfa. I got it from western massachusetts so returning it would be more painful than just keeping it. He pulled his hay basket up to his litterbox yesterday so I think he might be eating some more lately out of his basket but it’s still full.


                    • Beka27
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                        Regardless of what you have on hand, if he’s not eating it, this is a problem. Can you go get a small bag of orchard from your local pet supply store and at least see if he’s interested in it any more than the timothy? Unused hay could always be donated to a local rabbit rescue if need be.


                      • jerseygirl
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                          He pulled his hay basket up to his litterbox yesterday so I think he might be eating some more lately out of his basket but it’s still full.

                          Maybe he just wants a big old pile in his litterbox?


                        • cactuspancake
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                            I’m not going to put hay in the litterbox until his coccidia has cleared up or he will have a better chance of prolonging the infection. I put a little in the back which he eats a little and doesn’t go on but I did this when I first got him and he actually wouldn’t go in it. He likes it just over the lip so he can poop and munch lol


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                              I went to the vet for a followup yesterday and the only problem now is that he doesn’t eat his hay at all. I even got a new bag of orchard hay and he doesn’t eat that either. I put it in all sorts of places and things that might seem interesting but nothing. If I mix it with things he picks the food out. If I don’t give him anything he just doesn’t eat… I only gave him a few pellets and an 1/8th cup of baby spinach and he just follows me around and sits by the fridge begging. Now his poops are getting really tiny like smaller than peas tonight and I think it’s cause of him not getting any food The vet said he was a good weight and healthy so I could do this… I’m going to not give him anything but hay for at least a few days or until he doesn’t look so good. Are there any other types of hay I can try that aren’t too similar to the ones I’ve tried? Also he hates oat things so no oat hay.


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                                I would try any of the varieties sold in the BB store. You don’t have to order them from here of course, but you can look for the kinds where you are. BB wouldn’t sell them if they were crap

                                And definitely give him a hay only diet. No cheating on it either! If he doesn’t eat hay, he will be in serious trouble. Especially with that fir coat of his!


                              • cactuspancake
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                                  Ok. Starting tomorrow I will remove ALL his pellets! He’s gonna be so sad!


                                • cactuspancake
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                                    Also I got him some botanical hay with herbs and “mountain hay” with like 5 kinds of grasses and timothy in it. I’ll put them all out and see what he wants!


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                                      What is his favorite vegetable? Some people have success with mixing in shredded carrots into the timothy to make a hay salad. I got Neigey eating his hay when he didn’t want to as a young rabbit by offering him just the fines of the hay in a little bowl and then gradually cutting in some pieces of entire hay strands.
                                      Has the vet checked Franz’ teeth yet?


                                    • cactuspancake
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                                        Yeah his she said he had really good teeth. He’s just a baby so I imagine there wouldn’t be any damage yet.


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                                          That might be just it, his young age could be why he is not getting into the hay as much as he should. Some young rabbits need extra encouragement to get the hang of hay. I would just keep refreshing the hay and making it enticing and if you can get fresh, safe/untreated grass from outside you could mix that in to see if it will convince him.


                                        • cactuspancake
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                                            Yeah so I tried mixing carrots in his orchard and he spen hours picking out all the shreds and spitting out the hay lol. I got a bunch of thick green fresh grass from outside and he totally snubbed it! Unlucky for him that he’s only got a 1/8 cup of pellets and no veggies today! Plenty of hay though! As long as he’s pooping and moving I’ll keep it up lol


                                          • Monkeybun
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                                              I personally would cut out the pellets too.


                                            • LoveChaCha
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                                                I am shocked at how picky Franzy is. I am becoming super concerned about him By snubbing hay, he may not have problems now, but he may have tooth problems in the future.

                                                He only has 1/8 pellets? What else does he eat that he poops out?


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                                                  I was giving him veggies but I was advised no more for now until he establishes good eating habits. I’m on day three of the hay and 1/8 cup diet with a motility agent on hand. He’s nibbling it but not much more. The hay is available in more places as well now.


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                                                    I have to tell you, it reminds me of how my Mops used to be as a young rabbit. His eating habits improved drastically after I bonded him. But Mops was REALLY picky. He didn’t even eat veggies when he was a lone bun. Only pellets a few strands of hay and orange pulp. I used to squeeze orange juice, sparingly, on his hay.
                                                    Come on, Franz, eat your hay already!!


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                                                      Omg you guys he was eating his grass earlier… just chowin down! He ate about a quarter handful. He’s been frantically looking around on the ground for all the rogue pellets he’s dropped but he’s not letting himself starve too much. He’s been nibbling at his orchard as well. At night I’m leaving him in his cage with only hay and water. My shipment of botanical and mountain hay came in but I missed the mail man so I have to get it on Monday

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