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Forum HABITATS AND TOYS Big bunnies and vertical jumping

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    • Binkles
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        Now that I’ll be going to be moving Peter into my room I have to reconfigure Little-Bit’s condo to accomodate him. It is my understanding that bigger bunnies need to do as little jumping to and from elevated places as possible, ie the 3 one-foot jumps it takes to get up and down the condo and the 3ft from my bed to the ground.

        Right now my room is configured like this:

        My current plan of action is to scrap my bed frame and just have my matress and boxsprings on the floor like I will when I move to my new apartment. Besides this probably being better for Peter’s jumping capabilities I’m just sick of trying to catch bunnies who can hide from me underneath the bed. >/ So any suggestions on how I should re-arrange the condo? What is good for a big bunny’s bones?


      • Sarita
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          I might add a third grid across to make it a bit larger that way. Good idea about the bed frame too – it’s hard catching a sick bunny hiding under the bed.

          How many grids are on the side we cannot see?


        • Binkles
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            It’s two grids deep and two grids across. Definitely built for a dwarf but I wouldn’t ever be locking them in there anyway. It’s more of a glorified hidey-house than anything. I’m not going to be able to add a third grid across until I move into my apartment because my room is too small. I will probably eliminate the third level as not to confuse Little-Bit since she’s used to being able to exit the side door onto my bed there. I’m thinking this would be better for Peter too since he won’t have as many levels to traverse.

             


          • Beka27
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              If they’re not going to be locked up, you could actually do away with the condo altogether, or just do an open 3 sided space for litterbox, food, and water.


            • Nat
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                I was just lookin around and had to say…I have that towel liner in my rat cage.

                Okay, okay, off topic. Sorry….


              • Binkles
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                  Rofl! They’re great cage liners!


                • KatnipCrzy
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                    I don’t understand what you mean about the vertical jumping.  My largest rabbit- Griffin at 9lbs- I have him in 4 foot x-pen and I had to clip coroplast to the top to keep him in as he continued to get out.   I was not aware that larger bunnies should not jump.  When Griffin stands up to beg for a treat- and Schroeder is penned along side him- Griffin is almost twice as tall- so would have an easier time jumping since he can already get his front feet up.

                     


                  • Monkeybun
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                      I don’t understand that either… why shouldn’t big bunnies jump?


                    • Beka27
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                        I’ve heard that larger bunnies may not be able to jump as high as smaller bunnies, simply b/c gravity is working more against them. But I’ve never heard it’s dangerous for them to jump.


                      • Elrohwen
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                          Agree with Beka – I don’t think large bunnies should be made to jump things that are too high for them (if you were into bunny agility or something), but I don’t think there’s any reason they can’t jump whatever they want at home.

                          I’m not sure how large Peter is, but it seems like it’s easier for the bigger bunnies to jump onto shelves because when they stand up they’re already so close to the shelf.


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                            Posted By Beka27 on 06/12/2010 07:19 AM
                            I’ve heard that larger bunnies may not be able to jump as high as smaller bunnies, simply b/c gravity is working more against them. But I’ve never heard it’s dangerous for them to jump.

                            And I am sure you are smaller than a basketball player but I am sure they can jump higher than you no?

                            My 15 lb flemmie cleared a 2 1/2 foot jump the day after her spay. Always jumps onto the couch and can binky about 2 feet in the air on a bad day…


                          • jerseygirl
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                              I’m thinking the concern may be more so with landing. As Peter is a bigger rabbit, his muscle mass might impact on bones more on landing? Rabbit skeletons aren’t very strong. Hopefully Binkles will clarify soon.

                              I think some jumping would be good exercise for him though. Remember he probably stands taller (on all 4’s) than Little Bit, so the shelves mightn’t be too much of a challenge for him. For landing, you could always try foam mats under the liners if you’re concerned about that.

                              You might have already built the new cage by now…I was thinking make it the length of the bed and 2-3 grids high. Maybe add just one perch. Then you can add boxes and there’s room to move around on the floor level.

                              Do you have enough grids to turn it into a pen even?


                            • Binkles
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                                Yeah that’s what I meant, Jersey. Oh I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Peter can clear two or three feet easy -and he’s proved it to me by jumping on my bedside table!- but I do worry that his mass outweighs the limits for strenuous activity on his skeletal structure. Bunnies are fragile-boned to begin with (note that I learned this the hard way first-hand) and they’re not naturally meant to have the body composition that commercial breeds like Peter do.  They’re ‘optimized’ for having excess weight that of a natural rabbit. I hate to compare…but in a way it’s kind of the same principle behind commercial race horse breeding and how they’re bred specifically to have very light bones in comparisson to their muscle mass. Which is also why they often subsequentially break them..

                                I have already re-designed the condo and it’s unfortunately not quite as much of a splendor as Little-Bit’s old one was. To begin with though, I don’t actually use it as a cage, so it doesn’t need to be too big. It was really more of a glorified hidey-house than anything else. It was nice to have though and I know that Little-Bit enjoyed it as it was. I’m sure I’ll be able to whip up something bigger and better when I move into my new apartment in a few weeks.   Right now it’s just two levels and two squares x two squares and open on the top.

                                In the mean time, what are the chances y’all would like to add my old condo to the BinkyBunny rabbitat gallery? It wasn’t an engineering marvel exactly but it did have a unique feature in that it had an opening that lead out onto my bed. Lol.

                                 


                              • Beka27
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                                  We could add it. Post some pics in this thread and BB can put it in when she has a chance.


                                • Beka27
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                                    A new member posted this link in another thread and it actually addresses the height-jumping ability of rabbits. This is what I was thinking and trying to articulate when I made my reply (that Spidey so quickly shot down… lol.) He puts it much better than I did.

                                    From this page:

                                    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/2010/3/tall-xpen-checkered-rabbit-1.htm

                                    There’s a ratio curve about weight/size and jumping ability, and it seems the mid size guys (5-8 pounds) are ideal size to mass to be able to get the most height. As they get smaller the size of the gate is harder to overcome, even though they have less weight to lift. As they get bigger though they have more muscle it’s harder to get all their mass and frame over that height.

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