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    • Lindsay
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         Monty is behaving quite strangely today.

        Backstory: My boyfriend and I went away for one night this weekend and left him home (our flatmates were there but we didn’t want to rely on them to feed him since he is good at escaping.. But we figured they would call if they noticed anything wrong) as we figured it was better that than disrupting him by trying to take him with us. We’ve done this a couple of times before and he’s been fine. We left him in his big cage with tons of hay, a big bottle of water and a bowl of water, a big bowl of veggies and enough pellets for a day and a half (he is quite good at rationing them out and doesn’t generally eat more than he needs in one go).

        When we got back he seemed fine, he had a few pellets left and had drunk almost a bowlful of water but not much of his bottle (although it’s possible our flatmates refilled it, we haven’t spoken to them yet). Later we tried to get him out of his cage for a run around but he became very territorial, which is not usual for him. Because his cage is in another room to the room he’s allowed to run free in, and because won’t be picked up, we usually put his carrier in his cage, and either he hops in or we encourage him in with a gentle push to the backside. But yesterday he didn’t want to get in. He went flat to the floor in the corner of his cage and growled if we tried to coax him in. We decided to leave him be in the cage for a bit if he really didn’t want to come out, but my boyfriend offered him a piece of carrot as a friendly gesture. Monty snapped at him and knocked the carrot out of his hand, on to the floor, where he barely ate any of it.

        We left him in the cage overnight, and this morning he seemed OK, using his litter tray fine, eating a few pellets and so on. I managed to get him into the carrier and let him out in our bedroom for a run around.

        The thing is, apart from to make a quick inspection of the room when he first got in there, all he’s done is sit under the bed (in a spot he doesn’t generally sit in) and hide. He’s not eating many pellets (he usually goes nuts for them) and the only way I can coax him out for even a few seconds is to offer him greens, which at the moment he will still eat quite happily.  I put my hand under the bed to stroke him earlier and must have done so too quicky for him because he growled. Since then though he will generally allow me to touch his head. I can’t reach under there far enough to do much more than that. I have seen him use his litter tray at least once today, and I haven’t heard any stomach gurgling or teeth grinding to suggest he has any digestive upset. The few times I have seen him hop around he has moved normally. He is sitting quite normally but he won’t “flop” like he normally does, he is just sitting upright like a little hen.

        I can’t figure out what in the world could be the matter unless he is just upset at having been left alone overnight. I know rabbits often disguise being ill which is why I’m so worried he isn’t behaving normally, but I don’t know if the vet will be able to tell anything if I take him as he’s not showing any symptoms particularly apart from not being as active as normal and being a bit territorial. What should I do?

         


      • Sarita
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          Well, a vet can do a physical examination – check the teeth, palpate the stomach, check his temperature, etc…

          I might just give him today to see if he gets back to normal and then if he doesn’t seem right then you might want to consider having the vet examine him.

          It may be either the change in routine or it could be something physical – it’s difficult to know for certain.


        • Lindsay
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            Just to add: his eyes are bright, his fur is clean, he has been vaccinated against VHD and Myxi, and he is drinking water quite happily (although I have to bring it to him, as he’s not often coming out from under the bed on his own).
            Also, it’s not terribly hot here and he is in a well ventilated room. It was probably quite warm over the weekend when he was on his own, but we left the window open and shut the curtains so he was in the shade.


          • Lindsay
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              Thanks, yeah I am definitely taking him in tomorrow morning if he’s not behaving normally by then. I figure the fact that he has been eating and drinking and pooping today means it’s not a total emergency, but I am definitely not going to leave it more than a day as I’m worried he’s hiding some symptoms.


            • Sarita
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                Those are good signs – it’s possible that this is really his new normal behavior and he’s just growing up. I know you’ve only had him about 3 months so you are still trying to figure out what is normal for him and what isn’t.


              • Lindsay
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                  Actually we’ve had him six months. I suppose it is possible that his personality would change but it seems drastic and sudden. Only three days ago he was tearing around the bedroom at full speed and jumping all over me but now he’s just sitting still for hours.


                • Beka27
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                    I agree. Keep a close eye on him today.


                  • Sarita
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                      Keep us updated – it’s possible there is something going on physically but like you mentioned and he’s disguising discomfort or illness.


                    • Lindsay
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                        Well, this is quite strange. I went in about 10 minutes ago and he was sitting sort of flopped but making an odd breathing sound, not fast or laboured but just an odd sort of noise like the noise a sleeping human with a slightly blocked nose would make.. A bit squeaky. I was worried, and when I put my hand under he growled at me again (I didn’t even touch him and was moving my hand slowly so as not to startle him). That was too much for me so I decided to call the vets. They had nothing today so I made an appointment for tomorrow morning.
                        I was starting to get quite upset thinking something could be wrong with him, but then, while I was calling my boyfriend to update him on the vet situation, Monty hopped out from under the bed and over to his litter tray like nothing had ever happened. He hopped up to me and let me pet him and is suddenly being quite normal again.

                        We are not going to cancel the appointment just yet in case he starts being strange again, but right now he’s being a lot more like normal Monty.
                        I almost wonder if he could tell I was upset and decided to stop being so mean to me for leaving him alone!


                      • Minty
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                          I hope he is okay! He could be disguising some type of discomfort and isn’t feeling well – maybe he ate something weird while you were away? If he is pooping and eating fine then that is a good sign though… Keep us updated on the vet appointment!


                        • Ali925
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                            You mentioned it’s not terribly hot, but the room could have gotten warm while you were gone? It could have been the heat that stressed him out a bit? And a side question, is he going through a molt?

                            My bunny just recently had a bout of stasis that came on out of nowhere. There ended up being no underlying medical cause, so it was determined to be stress of some sort. It was the first time she was experiencing the warmer weather (warm to them is not always that warm to us humans…) plus she was going through a very heavy molt (heaviest I’ve seen her go through and she was about 7 months old at the time). So we attributed the stasis to those, as well as maybe some stress from our other bunny getting neutered the day before and just having things a little different in the house for a day or two..you know, they don’t like change!!

                            Thankfully your bun is eating/drinking/pooping, but like you said, they’re good at hiding illness. What jumped out at me was the fact that you said he’s refused the carrot and has been growling.. When my bunny was sick she wouldn’t touch anything, even her favorite treat, and actually lunged at me for trying to put it up to her mouth… She NEVER lunges. So, if he’s starting to feel better, maybe he’ll bounce back on his own, but with my bunny, she was too far into the stasis (was in terrible pain, not eating/drinking) that I couldn’t risk not helping her immediately.

                            I hope he’s feeling better by now, and definitely still get him checked out just to be sure. When I was trying to get my bunny into her carrier before we left she was running away from me like usual even though she was clearly not okay …so they’re masters at hiding pain…


                          • Lindsay
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                              It’s interesting you say that, as he is currently molting quite a lot. I’ve been thinking today that maybe he is just feeling a bit hot and that’s making him sad and lethargic. He currently seems quite a lot better, but a little while ago I noticed his ears felt a bit hot so I cooled him down a bit with a cool washcloth over the face and ears and he seemed to LOVE that. He’s not growled at me now since that incident earlier, he’s lying down in his normal spot instead of hiding away and he’s quite happily eating greens and drinking lots of water so I suspect he was in fact feeling hot. Also I’ve just noticed that his starting to feel better seems to have coincided with a drop in temperature outside as it’s started to rain. I am going to be keeping a MUCH closer eye on his temperature now, my parents are going to give us an electric fan to put near to his cage so that should help. This is the first summer of his life and he was born in the middle of one of the coldest English winters in history so I suppose this is a bit new to him!


                            • Ali925
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                                Yes that definitely makes sense to me. This was Oreo’s first big molt and her first time in the heat (born in September and we had a cold winter…). After taking her to the vet, he told me it’s also possible for certain bunnies to go through stasis every time they molt (I certainly hope not!) but it would make sense since you also said he’s molting. You might already be doing this, but if you haven’t, try to help him with the loose fur (brush works but I find if I try to use my fingers while petting it works better, and she doesn’t mind it…I get some thank you licks all over)

                                We now keep the air on if the house is any warmer than 75…it stinks not to have the fresh air, but Oreo just seems to be more sensitive to the heat. We have wood floors, so it tends to make the ground cooler and I know they enjoy that. If you don’t have one, perhaps try a few pieces of tile…also all the tips from BB on keeping your bunny cool are helpful.

                                Hope he continues to do well! He’s very cute by the way!!


                              • Lindsay
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                                  Thanks everyone for your advice.
                                  Monty is completely back to normal – appetite fully restored (he never fully stopped eating anyway), no more growling and no more hiding. The same hyper bunny we know and love. We ended up canceling the vet appointment as we didn’t think it was worth putting him through the stress of travel when he seemed to be completely over it.

                                  My assumption is that the room was too stuffy for his liking so he was grumpy. Today was much cooler and rainy outside and he was as happy as could be. We’re going to be much more careful now – I never thought something as mild as the British summer would be too much for him but I guess maybe it is. I’m also going to get him a better brush or comb for grooming as I don’t think our current brush is getting all his loose fur out. He really is molting like crazy.


                                • BinkyBunny
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                                    That is good news that he is doing much better. During this molting time, just be sure he gets plenty of hay, and if does get treats, avoid giving them or at least cut down the amount as his digestive system will naturally be getting more hair and he will need high fiber to pass it. So plenty of fluids (wet his greens too) and hay, hay, hay.

                                    Keeping my fingers crossed that he stays “normal”.

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