I am still favoring the car sessions because the last one worked so well. Have a re-intro in your family’s vehicle.

You can have sessions in the parked vehicle, I don’t think it needs to be running and burning gas to work for Mocha and Lulu. I think they will associate the space of the vehicle with last time’s ride that got them snuggling so much.

You can use a cube on top of the washer too, or the bath tub, but I thought the vehicle would be more comfortable for a longer session.

Great job on your signature, Mocha, your bunnies are so flashy-looking

How nice of your dad to make you this signature.

Use the car then. Any vehicle is fine!

Then you could move them to the bathtub, inside an NIC cube, and run water into the drain as a noise stressor. The cube forces them close and the tub allows for the running water.

Stay optimistic now. Try a short session inside the car. You need to be calm for them.

Another good stress device is the vacuum. Just have it running about 10 feet from where you’re doing the bonding.

Mocha, you could use things like a washing trolley, an old pram or a drinks cart. Then just push it around the yard or inside the house. I think using something like this you would be better to use a high sided box for the bunnies so they can’t see out too much. They’ll just feel the movement. Something you can still reach into to settle them if they tussle. Also, if you do use something like this, try not to stop the movement when you do have to settle the,m. You don’t want them learning that fighting will stop the movement. So you could just rattle the box as you settle them then start pushing again when all is well.
Hope this gives you some alternatives to use if you can’t use a car.

Lulu nipping at Mochas side might be her asking for grooms or her reaction when he doesn’t groom her.

I am glad you got to use the car. Stick with it now for a while because the parked car is a no-stress space that works for Lulu and Mocha. This is very good. The car is big enough to allow for different interactions and you want those as long as there are no fights. If they were to start fighting I would go with the stress bonding that Jerseygirl describes.

Sounds like they’re doing pretty good! Maybe all they needed was to go back a few steps in bonding and have some positive interations.

That’s great! That’s fine — I just posted here what I would do going by what you have told me. The bathtub is always fine since you had sessions there before with good results. Plus, flicking water on Lulu will definitely help with her nipping. Good work again.

Hehe: Lulu sliding down the side of the tub, that must have been hilarious to watch!

I am really happy for you that it’s going so well now, and I love your new siggy – your buns are so cute!

mocha, if you can’t go for an actual car ride, don’t worry. Just repeat what you did yesterday (bathtub or parked car session)

sounds like a excellent session! keep it up.

Mocha, if you find them to be overly humpy, maybe it is time to introduce a stunt double for the sessions. Do you have a stuffed animal that you can give up for this? It would need to be infused with your rabbits’ scents first though.

Mocha, I think I am seeing your update too late. I hope you decided to bring the bunnies. I was thinking you could take some of your NIC grids and make a temporary crate out of that for the second bun.

don’t give in. you did the right thing to separate for a bit. they are still sorting out who will be the boss. Some newly bonded buns chase for a couple of months even after moving in together. My Deirdra has been bonded with Neigey for 5 months now and she chases him at times. You have to know though what kind of chasing it is. Vicious chasing means the rabbit who is chasing is looking to fight the other. That’s when you need more sessions and more time. While you are at your garndparents, have some sessions in the parked car but separate them at night. Don’t get too worried now, they did great today on the trip!

As long as no skin breaks and you break up the nipping — continue with the sessions.

I am so happy for you that they had a blast, and you! I guess, the new place really relaxed them! I love sideways binkies!
I don’t think you are weird, but I do think now you might be part rabbit… sleping on the grass… hehe.

It will be a while, but soon enough it should not cause any serious fighting any longer.

no, there will still be humping even by the time you are ready to cement them.

when there are no more fighting starts: when one goes for a humping, the other should either tolerate it, or take off successfully. When there are grooming requests, they should either be fulfilled, or at least be ignored without aggression. A little fur tuft pulled out form time to time is fine, though. Basically you look for if the buns want to be in the same place together; do they follow one another peacefully, do they lounge together reliably… this sort of thing.

If the pen is safe and you will be with them the whole time, yes, you can do one more tonight.
You want to see positive intercations over and over a few times before moving up to the next level.

It was at dusk wasn’t it? Rabbits really get their binkies on around that time of day. They can get a bit wild. Yes, you will need more sessions but they didn’t fight, did they? So this is good! You are on your way! Evening sessions can be intense. Did you read about Otto & Hannah going hump-crazy at weird hours? It is a similar thing.

* when they jump over top of one another it is to avoid a confrontation. Like Neigey at the end of this video jumps over top of Deirdra.

You don’t need to buy a small cage for bonding. You might just be able to put something together from the things you have: xpen, NIC grids, etc. Not all rabbits can be, or need to be in as small a cage for cementing like Elrohwen’s Otto and Hannah.
let’s see how they are when you get back home, this will give you a correct measure because it will be on their ‘home turf’.

was Neigey’s jumping over Deirdra similar to what Lulu and Mocha were doing last night?

oh! that’s different then! I would say she was just using him as an obstacle to binky over!

Sounds like Mocha couldn’t care less… sitting motionless watching the scenery… too funny!

Bonding interactions are the funniest… but never leave them unattended!

Are you really asking? You know, I believe bonding videos are so great — please!

Just post it, I don’t see any rule in the BB guidelines that prohibits bonding footage with humping in it.

Lulu is the boss. I think Mocha has accepted that, even though reluctanty. These two act exactly like my Lint and Mops in the beginning.
What happens after Lulu humps him? Does she repeat?

If I remember correctly, even when Mocha used to do some humping, Lulu did also. In the video Mocha takes her humping submissively. You may need a few more sessions but if there are no fighting starts you could look into what materials you have to make a temporary cementing habitat for them. Where is this place that you took the video?

Oh, you’re back home. Would you be allowed to house them there for, say, ten days? You could build up around them in that nook of the hallway with grids. Just an idea… do a few more sessions adding some items such as litterboxes.

What other spots are there other than your room, you could use?

I would continue doing daily sessions, two per day, with items in their bonding area, then, if iit goes well for the rest of this week, I would build a cementing enclosure in a neutral spot.

It has to be close to where you are, you want to sleep there too for the first night.

Later! No cementing this week! Just planning for it

I don’t know your house but it actually looks like there are doors going from that spot to rooms and a grid enclosure would be terribly in your way. I like the spot for the fact it is by your bedroom. — did you discuss with your parents about cementing, what it is, and that it has to be done somewhere other than your room to prevent any territorial fights?

can you sleep in the hallway with them? would your parents flip? you could go to sleep after them and set an alarm and wake up before them, they would never know.

No, nothing on the sly!

no fighting though?

Sorry Mocha, bad advice.  

Whatever Petzy says, she knows you and your parents and the bonding process.  

Always good to keep the parents involved and in the loop when possible.

The basement might be fine to use. It sounds lke a good place for cementing. If you build them a cementing enclosure and use a sheet to cover the floor it will be neutral enough.

I don’t actually know mocha’s parents… I just know from mocha that they have been very supportive of everything and I think it would be unfair and disobedient to leave them out of the loop.

how big a dog crate do you have? Have they ever been in such a small space together?

A carrier is too small for cementing. Use the xpen.

Grooming is a promising sign…

Try them in it. I used one for a trio I bonded and it worked. It depends on the buns. It may be too small for Lulu and Mocha but have a crate test session to find out.

This one measured 36″ by 28″ by 24″, the shelf helped too.

sounds like you have really supportive parents, mocha. that is really wonderful. haha petzy, i know that you probably didn’t “technically” know Mocha’s parents, but you know about them.

Sorry to keep interrupting, I am following this thread closely because I want to bond Lems with a forever friend in the near future, and Mocha asks really good and specific questions. So important. The details are really key.

usagi, this thread is open to you and everybody! Please join!

petzy, how did you secure the top shelf? that’s a great setup, especially for travel, and i can see why it would be good for cementing.

haha, mocha, isn’t it the best thing ever when the bb package comes, and the bb stamp is on everything, and you get to see what the gift of the month is? it makes me so happy.

Oh! A BB package! Maybe there will be new — neutral — things in there you can add to the sessions?

It was a dilapidated old board I drilled four holes in and wired with heavy wire.

Yes, give them a new toy to see! I want one of those BB clickers too, they look to be the best!

Ok, so here is a question on the topic of carriers – I know that Mocha has been back and forth to the grandparents house, and I am not sure how long the drive is. However, we are preparing for a really long car ride (12 hrs) and I am flipping out because I don’t know what would be best to put Lemony in. We are bringing the xpen for when we get there, and can use it for excersize at rest stops. But we are taking a sedan, and there isn’t a whole lot of room – 2 ppl, Lems, plus cello, plus lots of stuff. Lemony will have at most one seat plus the middle seat… Should I take his regular cage? We never really lock him up in it anymore because we have expanded his area a lot, and he has gotten so big… I am not sure how we would be able to secure this big of a cage, and I am not entirely sure if it is going to fit. If it does fit, it will be tight, and I don’t want him to feel clausterphobic. We also have a plastic carrier, as well as a new fabric carrier with mesh that he really likes, that opens from both sides and the top, and fits the litterbox inside. He likes to poke his head out of the top. But for 12 hours? I just don’t know what to do. Should I go all out and buy something bigger than the carrier, but smaller than the cage? My fiance thinks I am crazy for worrying about this so much, but it is really important to me that Lemony be as comfortable as possible. If we do take a smaller carrier, is it ok to let him out in the car? He should be secured at all times, right? Just don’t know what to do.

Awww, new bb toys! They never last long, hehe.

usagi, I would take the small carrier for the ride and let him out on a blanket on the seat, or on your lap. Leave the big cage at home since you are already taking a crate for when you get to your destination.

Thanks, Petzy. That sounds like the best solution. Then, I can still have his litterbox, and he can still stretch out a bit on the seat if he would like. Put my heart to rest (for now, hehe). Thanks so much.

mocha, take another vid! wanna see, wanna see!

oh my gosh, mocha, they look so sweet together! awwwwwww!!!!

i can see where mocha’s fur is all messy from lulu kisses.

There will be chasing. The chasing gives you important insight into where they are in their bonding: was there a fighting start at any point during the chase?

it was an excellent session. If this continues you can start cementing soon, as in next week.

For the first 48 hours definitely, after that, no.

yes, you need a plan for bonding!

You have made it to the larger space! If these videos are showing the “worst” of what happend today, you might want to try them out in the space you have planned for cementing (in your basement).

I am leaning toward a pen but why don’t you try them out in that crate you mentioned yesterday? Have they ever been in such a small space together?

I am thinking you could make a session in your largest dog crate in your basement as a test run.

have you used it before for either of them?

did they stay in that carrier together, or was one of them in there separately?

I think to just try a small pen in the basement and do a couple of day-long sessions if you able to (if you are at home).
Yes, show me pictures of those kennels, please.

oh, wow, those are good to use too! It is your call, crate or pen. Defintely wash down with vinegar before though. Make a video of them during the basement pre-cementing session

Posted By mocha200 on 05/12/2010 12:50 PM
should i start today?

…why don’t you… just don’t take your eyes off of them

yay!

Yay for Mocha!!!

Go Mocha!

Chasing already? Then try a crate now to see if there is a different dynamic. You want the most peaceful setup for cementing.

and?

and?

what are they doing?

It was about the litterbox. The setup needs a second box beside the first one.

Let’s see the crate as a setup.

no, no, we were looking to compare the dynamics so you have to do both

so far so good? they are exploring right now, are they?

OK, I have to log off. I am gettng company and have to cook a dinner for everyone…

If they get along, leave them til tonight. If they start to escalate in chasing, separate but end on a good note somehow smewhere. A little chasing is fine. Can you take out the big litterbox and give them two small ones instead?

maybe once the humping is done they will settle… observe carefully! you are getting there!

Awww, I just noticed you are starting cementing. Good job!

Don’t worry too much about the first night. Being put in a cage together full time is so different from bonding, so they probably just need a couple sessions before they settle down.

How long were they in the crate until you separated, what started the chasing?
I think you are at the same point where Monkeybun is with Moose and Monkey. You need a larger space then such as a pen where you can sit inside of with them and wear them down: stop the chasing whenever it starts, but try to draw out the sessions to a few hours. You can use your hands to stop the chasing by pushing down the head of the instigator. Wear gloves again. Every time they want to chase, and you stop them, also do a brief forced snuggle where you can use your hands to immitate mutual grooms between them. You would have them sit on your lap, and their heads together close, and rub their heads with your fingers. Wet your fingers for this in their water bowl to make it more like licks.

yes, I would put them in a pen today with two litterboxes. Can you fit in the pen also?

This will be time-consuming, you might want to have something there to pass the time for yourself. The longer you draw out the session the closer you will get to being able to move them in for cemeting.

Posted By mocha200 on 05/13/2010 11:11 AM
  (…)i am in the cage with them and i have been getting a lot of head bumps and bites from them.

are they hurting/attacking you or just nipping a little? Right now, you are the third thing which will act as a buffer zone between them. I am hoping that it will bring peace between them as they are somewhat friends and confronted with you in their space. I just would not want you to get bit hard! If they do, you may be able to put a chair or stool in and sit on that so only your legs are in their way.

Ok, mine do that too, hehe.
alright, what is happening now?

hopefully there will lots of grooms in the future to catch on camera

I will watch any Mocha/Lulu footage… they are so lovely together!

That’s all going very well. Maybe, you will need to sleep inside their pen for the cementing — kidding!!!
Love the kitties watching the event… you in the pen, cats looking in, too funny!

Well, here is the thing with cemeting: you have to do it at some point because you can only get so far with sessions… but you don’t want to cement too early because then it puts you back. however, even if you try cementing and it doesn’t work out, it is not a lost cause. So yes why don’t you try it? Tell me first what was the chasing like that prompted you to stop the session yesterday?

yes, this is a good plan. You need to be glued to their pen though and don’t break it up unless things get out of hand. As a rule, if there is chasing, as long as one bun keeps on running away as opposed to turning on the chasing bun, leave it be. Most times at the stage you are at, the chasing bun will give up the chase once the other bun got a good run around. If a chase gets fastter and faster and escalating into chasing EACH OTHER, yes, you need to intervene by using a stressor on them. What stressor works on them, have you tried a spray bottle?

She is grooming everyone now, isn’t she?

Do you have an empty soda can that you can fill with coins to shake at them? Or even more effective, a plastic shopping bag filled with several empty soda cans to bump at them when they are chasing?

It’s tough the bonding supervision, I found that too. Hungry, no bathroom breaks… LOL.
I know you tried the two in a cube I think on top of your dryer in the beginning, I am wondering if you want to have a cube ready for them if things get ugly. What I have done during the first crucial 24 hours of cementing is confine the rabbits in a cube when they acted up so I would not have to break them up cmpletely. In the cube, you can control their heads by keeping them pushed down until they chill out. Of course, you’d have to be awake for this. You will need your sleep too. As another option, you could transition into the cementing gradually: you would start cementing by putting them together for a few consecutive entire days but separate at bed time.

of course, you will need to take a bathroom break, just do it when they are loafing around.

You can do it! I believe in you! I know how hard it is – I broke down in tears at 6:30am next to the bunny cage today. It’s not easy, but you’ve come so far that you can’t go back now. That’s what I keep telling myself 😉

I think you should try just putting them together during the day and separating them at night. They’re so much quieter during the day that it will be a nice laid back time for them to get used to living together. After you’re comfortable with doing that for a few days you can try them overnight. Nighttime is the hardest because you just want to sleep but they just want to run around and annoy each other. So start slow and do what you can handle.

You did the right thing to separate again. I have been there, Mocha. It can be oh so disheartening. Take the weekend off from bonding to feel better. You have put in so many hours and worked so hard, you deserve a break. I know at times, I got so tired of it during my bonding and the only thing that helped was a little break.
I am going to think about the setup, and I’m sure other members on here might have ideas too to suggest. It may be that they just can’t cement in the pen, but that they need somewhere weird enough to make them put aside their little tiffs. The idea of sharing a space with one another is a big deal for bonding rabbits so this is why you see those chases over and over.
Bonding/cementing is 90% environment, and 10% rabbit personality. We just need to find the right spot for their cementing.
On a positive note, owing to your diligent supervision, they have had no nasty fights or injuries! That’s awesome! You are a really good bonder in reality. You just need more time and another spot for cementing. They were getting on great in your hallway, at your grandparents’ in the car.
More sessions will definitely help. I have had a bonding where it took three cementing attempts but it still worked.
I don’t want you to worry too much. Your rabbits are worth the work and over time their chasing will lessen!

How many NIC grids do you have? I am thinking a different shape of enclosure may help next time around. Someting narrow so there can be no round-and-round chasing, or the L-shaped bonding pen. You could build this up over a tarp, which adds slippery in as a stressor.

The L-shaped thing will work for buns who are not out for blood. Did it seem to you at any point during the chasing last night that they wanted to really hurt one another? I know, this is hard to tell but did they face each other at any point or was the whole thing about getting away from each other?

Is there another place in your house that your parents would let you do it? It’s hard to do really long sessions with supervision in the garage I imagine. Would your parents let you set up a pen in the living room or something for a couple days? It would be a different area for them, but you could easily stick around and watch them.

Hmmm. Maybe some more garage sessions would help then.

Is there anywhere else you could go that’s new to them?

The basement should do. You would need only enough grids to make it one grid high, enough for the sides and ends but none for the top. You could use a cardboard for the top which you could hold in place with bungee cords or wire. You want the top so you can open it up fast for quick access.
This setup can work for some or not for others. Tell me, have you had the two together for extended periods in a pet carrier, like for cats?

So I like the low-side cardboard-covered NIC enclosure because it would be much like a plastic carrier where the top is not letting in light.

no: you would be supervising, that’s why you need low sides, for easy access to break up crazy chases with a stressor. Then, if they do well, you attach the cardboard top, or you can make a grid top too. Lulu will only jump out if you let her.

The low-sided narrow NIC pen will allow you to sit right with the rabbits without being actually inside their space. The idea is to make it like a cube but longer, and you can start out small, and graduallly increase their space by adding grids.

Hey, you are good! See, that’s why I say you are a pro at bonding already!
It’s perfect.

You know your bunnies, they always do well in the beginning and then turn ugly. do your best to keep them together but I agree: don’t go to sleep just yet with them in this pen. do day sessions only.

Wherever you’d rather be! I guess, the basement would be best though so you can stick with it when the real cementing starts.

Cementing is just for two weeks. There will be plenty of sun after that in your sunny room What happens? — The rabbits will make the neutral place theirs, but theirs together, shared. They become like family to each other in one household, so to speak.

You will do nothing in non-neutral space until after they have cemented if you want this to work. Rabbits are territorial, remember? It can cause hostilities.
Use a blanket in place of the tarp.

after cementing they can be together in all places, neutral and non-neutral. It’s because the cementing makes them like one.

It could be the pen atmosphere that makes Lulu feel she must dominate. have you ever tried them in a very large space without pen, such as a room (not yours, a neutral one)? What about the hallway where they got along so well?

It was a mistake. I meant Mocha.
try them in the hallway if you can in the L-shape pen and without the pen in the hallway again.

Oh no! Ticks! That’s nasty! Usually they like to hide in taller grass so if you kept the grass in the bunny pens real short there should not be any ticks but I would not risk it either.

Restart wherever they got along best before… was it the hallway?

You don’t have to necessarily restart… just back track to an earlier stage when things were going well.
Some pairs need a big space to work stuff out, others need a small space. It’s going to depend on their dynamic.

The move might just be what gets them bonded, so don’t worry too much. It will REALLY help get them together. You could put them together on your trip to your new home and then start cementing there. Moving residences is the single easiest way of bonding rabbits.

Give Lulu a bit of a break, but don’t stop bonding completely.

That session in the hallway went beautifully. Did the cat jump over the gate? Lulu seemed to recognize her/him right away.
are you going to cement in that hallway space?
–I just love Lulu, her markings are my favorite, even though I am into the solid colors more.
I hope you feel calmer now and Lulu too! Seems her panic attack spooked you just as much!

What is keeping you from cementing? Have you tried them in your room since you changed it up?

It is changed which should confuse their sense of territory. Plus, they seemed to get along better and better. I just would not want them to get settled in your room in their separate habitats now when they are supposed to be cementing.

If you want to cement them, you need to take down their separate pens. I would let them have only their respective cages when they are not together. If they do well in an open space without pen (like the hallway) you might want to try them in your changed room without any pen.

*by giving them each a pen around their cage, they will claim parts of your room separate from each other. You want them to share your room so therefore I say no pens.

Try your room because ultimately it’s where they will live. If they get territorial (fight) move them to the hallway. If they get along in the hallway, start cementing there if your parents allow it there. If they do well in your room, start cementing now

*if you have to go out, put them each into their cages, but no more pens for them when separate!

No worries. Just do a good long session in your room then. you are working towards the cementing, even if you have to suspend for a short time. How long are you going to be away for?

Will your rabbits stay at home during this time or be boarded somewhere else?

I see in your photos in the other thread that Mocha’s cage is pretty big because it has the multi-levels. Does Lulu only have a crate if you take away her pen that attaches to that crate? Where is her cool NIC condo you made? I am asking because you could leave the two caged during your absence by taking away their pens. Then, when you return, you can start cementing in your room in one common shared pen. What do you think?

they are ready for cementing. If they do fine in your room, cage them individually during your absence and start cementing in one pen upon your return.

yes, it is. what about the nic condo?

good point.

Leaver her with a pen around the crate then. If it gets to be an issue at cementing time, in terms of territory, you still have the halllway, right?

that’s great — you can cement them when you return, you can do it.

From what I understand, humping can continue afterwards, it isn’t a sign they aren’t bonded. BB’s Jack still humps Vivian now and then.

If there was humping but lulu just hopped away and it didn’t cause a fight, then that’s ok. Are you leaving them in the pen? You mentioned 3 hours…do you mean you went out for 3 hours and they were fine? For cementing, you want to leave them in the pen/neutral cage for 1-2 weeks (i think). Then clean out the condo and move them in there afterwards. By then the bond should be strong enough to withstand any little upsets they might have in the condo.

Lots of bunnies still hump after being bonded, so I don’t think it’s a bad sign at all. Just keep an eye on them and make sure Lulu doesn’t get upset by it and start a fight. In my situation, Otto got ticked off at the humping and turned on Hannah (though it was only a scuffle, no injuries), so they just need some extra supervision to make sure they can work it out while living together.

Let them cement for the time that Jersey mentioned (1-2 weeks), and then move them where you want them to be permanently. If the humping does not lead to fighting — let it go on. If it leads to chasing even, let it go on, unless it leads to fighting. Nips are allowed, and fur pluckings too. Sometimes, all it takes is to stomp your foot or clap your hands to stop a chasing.

Sending you cheering-up vibes! Don’t worry too much as they are almost bonded. I say take the risk then, and put them into the condo but if there is any way at all for you to change it up a little, do it, and wipe it down with vinegar. Lulu and Mocha have been getting along so they may just transfer nicely for you. Make the rabbits keep a low profile in the house so not to run a risk of them being evicted to the outdoors. Low profile means no stray poops anywhere!
About the xpens, you will find an opportunity to use them again. Focus on the permanent housing for now, the cementing.

They may hump, they may chase but observe the events: as long as they don’t fight — it’s a bond.
You kow what? This morning, I put my rabbits into their outside playpen and they were binkying and then Deirdra groomed Lint… but then hopped away. He got so mad at her for not continuing grooming him that he went after her to nip her into her butt!

Good luck! Beans and Benny are approaching this stage, too. But they aren’t there yet, for sure!

How are they getting on today? Did you manage to keep them together in the condo?

maybe they would like a bottle of frozen water to lounge against.
leave tem in the condo for two full days (48 hours) before letting them out for exercise, just to let them settle in together well.
Thumping is one of a rabbit’s ways of reacting to a new setup/surroundings etc. and the ramp is a new feature for Lulu so she’s probable excited, curious and a little confused.

to clarify: you can let them out for exercise after 48 hours but they will have to continue cementing in the condo for a whole week.

I’m so proud of you Mocha!!! Stand your ground!

Hey! I just read this; that’s fantastic news, well done!

I bet this is the biggest bonding thread so far
Mocha, I would love to see a video of them in their condo.

That’s great! I wasn’t that long ago you said “I don’t think they will ever be bonded”. You did it! I will have to get tips from you when it is time to bond my 2 (this fall + winter). About the house being hot…I feel your pain! We have one window air conditioner that really doesn’t work the best in the living room. I had to move my buns to the living room because I felt sorry for them There are things you can do though. I have 6 ceramic tiles. I bought 6 because I keep 3 out for my buns (1 for Bell and 2 for Baxter since he’s bigger). I keep the other 3 in the fridge. The tiles do get really cold and will sweat so when I first get them out I will fold a sheet and lay it on top. Folded in just enough layers to where they won’t get wet but still feel the coolness. I also do the bottled waters. That helps a lot! Good luck!

Are Lulu and Mocha still getting on fine today? What is new in the cementing condo?

That’s so great! The litterbox bullying will soon end. It is very normal for rabbits to go through that when they first live together.
I think you will be able to leave them together while you go away over the weekend. I think you are almost over the 48 hour hump
(pun intended)

It won’t let me play it…

at first it was fine. It had the play button there and then when I wanted to watch it it had changed to a large image — screen — without play button. can you just paste the link so I can see it?

mocha it was my oversight — the video works just fine embedded here — I looked at the photo and thought it was the video, I’m a little on the slow side today! Lulu does not look fat to me at least around her face I cannot see any fat rolls.
They seem totally relaxed and at ease together in the condo.
Congrats. You did it! You bonded these buns!

Sometimes I miss having just a pair. A pair is perfect. I would not want my four rabbits in my bedroom. They need twice as much hay and you have twice as much cleaning to do. You need lots of litter material, vegetables and you have to worry times four. I can have four because they live in my basement where they can make a big mess and make all the noise they want. In the summer time, mine eat grass and I get extremely cheap vegetables from local people who have greenhouses.
For your siituation you would set yourself up for a nervous breakdown if you got another. More is not always better

Sorry I am a little late Mocha, but CONGRATS!!! You did such a great job!