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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Potential Flemish Owner Here

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    • Lis
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          Hi all, 

        I’m considering getting a Flemish Giant. I’ve owned rabbits in the past, so all of my questions are breed-specific. I ask that you do not reply if you don’t have experience with these guys.

        1. How big of a cage do I need? I’m going to be building him/her a NIC cage, and was wondering how big it should be? The cage will only be used when I’m in class. All other times, the rabbit will be allowed to roam in my room.

        2. Aside from sore hocks, are there any thing Flemish Giants in particular are prone to, disease wise? Any unusual cancers or genetic problems? (I’m not too worried about the sore hocks, as the cage will have a solid bottom.)

        3. They seem like they’re less skittish than other rabbit breeds based on what I’ve read. Is this true, or complete bull$*&!? 

        4. Do you think a Flemish could thrive in a small bedroom (apartment), or should I really be looking at another breed? I kind of have my heart set on these big guys, but I could downsize if it wouldn’t be as healthy for them.


      • Bkysiu
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          Welcome to Binky Bunny!

          I own a Flemish Giant Perry. He’s a big guy and I bought a crate size cage for him (a crate that is meant to be for Giant dog breeds like Great Danes!). Perry treats it like his bedroom and is allowed out when I’m home to supervise him. I live in a house but share with other flatmates, I’m not too sure how they’d thrive in a small bedroom apartment…how small is small??

          My lil boy is not skittsh at all, he tolerates a lot of picking up and you can be ‘rougher’ with Flemmies as they are not as delicate like small breeds. However, you may find if you get a baby Flemmy he might still seem skittish-sih..but that’s because he’s a BABY, and all babies are new to the experiences of our big wide alien world . But as they grow up, they are cruisy as.

          He is not prone to sore hocks because he doesn’t live in a cage with a wire mesh floor. This might not be a, more likely/prone problem, but he gets gunk in his eye and I need to check his eyes daily and make sure I pick it off so it doesn’t build up and catch infections.


        • Monkeybun
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            A flemmie is possible for an apartment, just make sure he gets plenty of out of cage time. Ideally, you want a very large cage for him, he will need a litter box in his cage, plus room to hop and flop.

            Bigger buns are usually less skittish, as they aren’t as easily taken as prey. So a flemmie is definitely less skittish than my little netherland dwarf!

            Make sure to get your flemmie spayed or neutered to remove and chance of cancer in the reproductive organs. For females especially, they have an 85% chance to get uterine cancer by age 2 I believe, if not spayed. Not pleasant at all.

            Welcome to BB, and we hope to see pics soon


          • Lis
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              I was planning on either getting a rescue rabbit, which would already be “speutered” (spay/neutered), or I would definitely get them speutered if I buy from a breeder. My understanding is that they’re much easier to litterbox train when speutered. Also if I get a girl, she would have to be taken to my parents’ house with me when I visit, and my mom’s dwarf is not neutered, and I do not want the responsibility of baby bunnies. I could not afford that, and would have no idea how to place them into a new home. Not to mention the cancers (I was aware of that statistic before you posted it). Yuck. Cancer is not a pretty thing, human or animal – my family has lost two dogs to lymphoma, as well as human members.

              As to the size of the apartment – I don’t know yet. I’m not moving until fall, and haven’t quite settled on a place to live.

              My plan for the cage was to put the litterbox inside – that way, once the rabbit’s trained, I don’t have to clean the entire cage, just the litterbox. How big are these dog crates? 30×48?

              Oh! I remembered another question – is the quality of timothy hay for horses safe for rabbits? I can buy a bale from the loads my mom gets for her horses for the price of a bag or two at the pet store. I know the quality of cow hay is not safe for horses, I was wondering if rabbits were even more sensitive.


            • Monkeybun
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                Alot of people buy horse hay for their buns. As long as it looks good with no weird stuff in it, should be ok


              • jerseygirl
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                  Horse quality hay is ideal for rabbits. The hay you’re planning on getting would probably be even better than pet shop hay. Fresher, less dusty and aged etc.


                • Beka27
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                    The absolute smallest space I would use for a Flemish Giant would be a dog xpen which is 4×4 feet. And this is with a lot of out of cage exercise time. Dog crates are not going to provide enough space as a permanent location. Dog crates are okay for smaller buns (average size about 5 pounds), but not for flemmies. Will the rabbit have exercise space around the entire apartment, or just your room? I’m not sure a bedroom will be big enough for exercise, especially not in an apartment where the rooms are usually very small. If the entire apartment will be bun-proofed tho, that should be fine.


                  • TARM
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                      I have a 12.5 lb flemmie mix and she lives in a 6 cube cage with a shelf on one end. There’s plenty of room for just her. If you were to ever get your flemmie a friend you might need two levels…lol

                      Just so you can see how much space she has here’s a picture with her in the cage. She’s on the bottom. My daughters pair live on the second floor.

                      And this is me holding her, just so you can see how big she really is, cuz she looks kind of dinky in the picture.


                    • Beka27
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                        And at 12.5 pounds, Zinnia is on the “smaller side” for flemish giants. Lol…


                      • Bkysiu
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                          I got my cage custom built. It’s 2 metres in length, 1.5 meters in width and 1.5 metres high (apologies for meters, I work with the metric system, you can google and convert the measurement). It’s quite huge for him to roam in, but like everyone has said, having plenty of exercise time out of the cage is much more important . My litter box is inside his cage and he knows exactly where it is, he’s a smart bunny, I got him when he was 2 months old (un-neutered) and it only took him 2 days to learn how to use his litterbox.


                        • Binkles
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                            I’m eyeballing this thread, because I don’t know how big Peter will turn out to be. xD

                            WHERE YA MOVIN’ TO? Is it Orlando? If it’s Orlando then we could room together and neither one of us would have to worry about rooming with people who don’t understand bunnies. Yeah that’s it, move to Orlando! Good idea!

                            *Isn’t freaking out about moving her bunny(ies) into unfamiliar territory AT ALL…*

                             

                             

                             


                          • TARM
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                              Beka: I know. She’s mixed with something else but she’s still a pretty good size. All my other bunnies are midgets. :0)


                            • MirBear
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                                i had a flemmie for 2 weeks…she was about 15lbs we had her in a huge!!! wooden pen… ill take pics when i get home…. when we moved into this townhouse (8-9 years ago) there was a shelf underneith the big window, that we put our plants on in the winter, anyways its more like a table with sides on it…. so we took the wood on the top of (its not held down bty anything) and thats where the bunn lives for 2 weeks..
                                she wasnt near as timid as my two smaller bunnies, even twix at a large 7lbs (lol !) is alot calmer than my 2-3 lb lion head.. so size and energy level are relavant!!!! the larger the bunny the calmer its personality.. and since we only hjad it 2 weeks im not sure about health issues but….

                                btw Tinkerbell (flemmie) was found by my friend and he didnt have any room to keep her so he gave her to me… eventually we found her owner….


                              • Lis
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                                  Binkles – Nope, Norfolk, VA. I’m transferring to Old Dominion University, and I have to leave my dog and Stormy behind, since my parents want them. And I NEED an animal companion, or else I go nuts. I’m looking for a rescue, but the only rescue that seems like it might be in the area is Virginia Rabbit, Inc. – and their website doesn’t list where they are, just where their vets are (they also don’t list ANY of their bunnies on Petfinder or their site, ugh). If need be, there’s a Flemmie breeder in Chesapeake, VA who I might resort to buying from, but that’s only if a rescue doesn’t work out for me.

                                  Thanks for all the cage info, guys/girls. Especially the pic of the NIC cage.


                                • Barbie
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                                    Oooo what fun! A flemmie!

                                    I definitely recommend adopting your new bunny. Rabbits that large are probably harder to adopt out than the smaller ones, because everyone wants a “cute, little” one. Call that rescue and ask if they have any flemmies and if not, give them your name and number and ask them to contact you if any come in. You can also ask them to recommend any other rescues in the area and then you can contact them. Do you know if there’s a local HRS chapter?

                                    It’s hard for a shelter to keep up with online things like petfinder, so don’t get discouraged – you might be surprised by the rescue’s selection of rabbits once you get there. I know my local humane society always has more bunnies/dogs/cats coming in and out of the shelter than they post online.

                                    I know you have your heart set on a flemmie, but be open to other bunnies as well – who knows who you might find


                                  • Lis
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                                      The only HRS chapter in my state is in Northern Virginia, which is where I currently live, but 4 hours from where I’m moving to.
                                      I’m waiting on adopting until after my move. I don’t want the stress of a move on a bunny who’s also just getting used to me.


                                    • KatnipCrzy
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                                        Even though you have your heart set on a Flemish Giant- I would still consider other large breeds.  My English Lop that weighs about 9 lbs is a handful enough compared to my 5 1/2 lb Mini Lops.  I call Griffin my “buppy”- since he is like a bunny/puppy.  He is very different in personality than the other 2- but he drinks twice as much and pees twice as much- and eats more- so his litterbox was an “adjustment” for me as an owner.


                                      • Lis
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                                          I have actually toyed with the idea of an French or English lop, or a Giant Angora, but I’ve never been a lop fan, and the fur of the Angoras is kind of a turnoff (I can’t believe I’m saying that, since I grew up with rough-coated collies).

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