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Hello,
This is my bunny Schmoo, he is a Lionhead but I’m not sure from what breeds (he has a faint brown stripe on his back, tail and circles around his eyes). He has never been much of an eater and his droppings have always been smaller then that of my Holland Lop female. He is 7 months old now and my first bunny. His diet consists of Meadow Hay (for some reason I can’t find Timothy here and a dry food mix Beaphar XtraVital (14% Fiber, 15% Protein, 3% Fat and 0.94% Calcium) and the occasional fruit treat. He has about 5h of play time each day.]

Ten days ago he was neutered but unfortunately the best “exotic” animal vet in my area isn’t that experienced with rabbits so there where problems with the recovery which where mostly the result of the collar. He didn’t eat for almost two days after the surgery save a few small bits of hey on the second day and I had to syringe him water for the most part. His droppings where the size of rice and he was a bit dehydrated but didn’t go into GI stasis. The collar was meant for cats and small dogs so I had to shorten it considerably so he could eat and drink, the stitches external with no glue so he had to wear it and he did for 3 days till he took it off early in the morning (pulled one stitch out but there where no problems, the collar was on and off for 3 more days). On the third day I took a risk and fed him two leafs of Lettuce to get his appetite up and he liked it very much. After the first 48h he was never really depressed (expect the collar) and had some play time each day.

Now he is “almost” back to normal but I’m worried he still isn’t eating and drinking as much as he should. Before the surgery he had almost 4 Pounds. He is drinking about 100-150ml of water each day, eating about 0.8 Oz of food each day + some hey and I give him a leaf or two of red or normal Lettuce. I think this is on the minimum limit for a bunny of his size and I would like him to consume more. During his play time he is very active (running around, shredding cardboard, being silly, Binky’s) but he is in his cage he sits and sleeps in a relaxed position most of the time and looks cute.

After the surgery he seems to be very picky about the pellets and is almost the polar opposite of my Lop (they are not bonded yet but do live in cages next to each other and I have to moderate her so she eats her cecotropes (she is 3 months old). So how can i improve his food and water consumption?
Thank you!
Welcome here. He is a beautiful bunny! He is eating and drinking which is good. I would keep doing what you’re doing and as he begins to feel better, his food intake should increase. If he stops eating or pooping for more than 12 hours, you need to call your vet. Does he get any other kinds of veggies?
Thank you. He never got any vegetables before his surgery and the first time I gave him any fresh food (two leafs of Lettuce) was during his recovery when he didn’t want to eat anything. Considering how he enjoyed it when nothing else would work, I wish I had made a shift to veggies before because I suspect it would have made his recovery much smoother. It didn’t cause any problems so now he gets 2-3 small leafs each day for about a week.
(He also gets a few drops of Vitamin supplement and amino acids in his water.)
I definitely would very slowly expand his veggie intake. He may like the taste of some more than others, so over the next few months you can try different ones, such as romaine lettuce or cilantro for strong tastes, or green leaf lettuce, parsley or mint for milder tastes. For now, just give him more of the lettuce and let him chow down. Also, try a little baby carrot. It will help you know if his teeth are fine or giving him some discomfort. (In humans, anesthesia can make your gums a little sore, so he may still be sensitive from the surgery.) It does sound like he came through well, so I think another week will have him back to normal, as long as you watch his food and poos carefully as you are already.
Also, a bunny will calm down considerably once they are fixed, because the hormone levels are dropping. In 4 weeks you may have a much more mellow bunny than you’re used to, but that’s normal.
He is positively gorgeous!!!!!!
His food consumption seem to be improving and I’m seeing him eat more and (well what goes in…
). His water intake is more or less unchanged so ill buy another bowl for water in addition to his bottle and see if that does the trick. There is one in the room but I notice that when his play time is over and he goes in his cage for dinner after he goes to his bottle starts drinking (one or two licks) and does a flop (maybe too much hard work for now).
RabbitPam,
I instructed my vet do check all his teeth and trim his nails when he was still under after the surgery. She said that his teeth are in very good shape but it might be the gums as you said. Indeed he is and if I tell him that he will start grooming himself. When I lay down on the floor with him occasionally he groom, pause and look at me almost like he is asking for a compliment, resume and again
.
What a CUTE bunny! Even with the collar, how sweet.
sometimes pets can have difficulty eating with the e-collars on- so our clinic recommends that if that is the case the collar can be taken off for the pet to eat- but the pet must be closely supervised while the collar is off.
How long have you been using the water additive?- most supplements are not necessary and do not usually promote drinking more water.
It sounds like now the stress of surgery and the collar is over, he’s getting his appetite back. That’s good news. I agree with Katnip about the Vitamin drops. They are not normally necessary.
Once he is back to eating normally, I would also advise to stop the vitamin drop. Rabbits systems are not meant for alot of nutrient intake all at once which is why they thrive well on very lean things like hay and greens, and their system can actually get overloaded with a diet that is too rich, so adding more vitamins/nutrients via the drops is not what I would recommend for a healthy bunny.
I haven’t heard of that pellet before – I will need to check it out, but an higher fiber pellet would be better if you can find it. However, don’t make any drastic switches right now when he’s just trying to get his system back to normal. It’s just something to consider later. (and even then you have to switch pellets over gradually)
I do agree though…HE IS ADORABLE!!!! With a cute name to match —Schmoo! How cute! Sounds like you are taking good care of him, as you know his habits, and are watching him closely. He’s lucky to have you.
Welcome to BinkyBunny!
How is Schmoo doing today? (perhaps with more pix to show us as well, hint hint.)
Welcome
sounds like he’s doing well now-that’s great to hear ![]()
His eating is back to normal and he might be even eating a bit too much since he is leaving a few cecotropes laying around but considering he has been on a all you can eat with pellets and he can’t say no to lettuce. It doesn’t worry me at the moment because he did loose some weight but I will slowly get him to a good diet over the course of a few days. Drinking is still not perfect even tho I bought him a bowl for water and removed the vitamins from his bottle but its not bad. Well I think he recovered, he is very hyperactive during his play time…running and destroying cardboard.
Posted By RabbitPam on 03/28/2010 04:59 AM
(perhaps with more pix to show us as well, hint hint.)
While I hate taking photos indoors, bad light means either blurred or yellow pictures some do turn alright after some photo shop restoration and I don’t want to use flash on them.
A picture of him when he was 3 months old.

Another one on the box.

Drinking water yesterday.

Licking the water off his mustache.

Now this is my Holland Lop named Pika because she was very small when I got her and had a white spot on her tail. Pika translates to Spot in English but I think the word changes its “gender” in translation. The spot on her tail is disappearing as she is growing.

She is very exploratory.

Drinking water. Huge ears act as eye protection so I can use flash ![]()

And here she is making a mess with some pine wood.

Those are lovely pix.
Is the pine wood from a toy? Need to be sure they chew on untreated pine, rahter than the stuff you get from the big building supply stores made for the outdoors. Just a passing thought.
He looks like he’s feeling much better.
Its the same wood I used to build his hide box. Should be untreated but it is from a type of store you mentioned. It has no paint or preserving chemicals asked the salesman and he said its untreated, its sold under “Eco wood” (but what I don’t get is how chopping down a tree is ecologically friendly
). The Binding material is that white wood glue but its used in such miniature amounts that I cant spot any residue.
That sounds good. I love his name, Shmoo, and he is just so adorable. Also, Pika is very pretty. Even if she is hiding her white spot. ![]()
Really cute bunnies!!! I hope Shmoo is better!
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