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Forum BONDING Still biting at his face

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    • Jenalynn
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        I wrote in the last post that Sweet pea and buzz were bonded and living together for the last 2 weeks perfectly.. I took buzz to the vet and brought him home and then all hell broke loose… they can’t be with each other at all now- unless I supervise and that doesn’t even last long…..sweet pea who use to be the submissive one is being so mean to buzz. When the bonding first started buzz would occasionally try to nip at her back end area …. and he’d do it like 1-2 times for the first 2-3 sessions…. but then stopped completely

        Sweet Pea keeps biting him right above his nose… she isn’t breaking skin, but rather pulling out little pieces of hair chunks…. they will be nose to nose and Ill pet them while they lay there…and then she randonly goes and nips at his face just when I start to think she might not bite……. that is what gets me … its ALWAYS the face… she never nips when he is walking by and nip his side or back – its the face….. do rabbits ususally only bite in one area?   and even when one is their cage and the other is running around and they put their noses up to the grids- sweet pea still nips his nose through the bars…  It has been like this since last Saturday and I am just losing hope…

        I did have a thought – some times when I give buzz his meds and it comes out the syringe it kinda shoots out really fast because its a little thickk.. and I wondered if maybe some medicine got on his nose area- and maybe she smells it and it trying to eat it…. but I mean its been 5 days now… how long can the medicine be on there for… I just wish I had an explanation…

        I am just really sad- to see how beautifully they bonded- and then after just 4 hours of being away from home – they can’t even be together anymore…

        I have been having 15-20 minutes bonding sessions in neutral areas- but she still nips….

        ahhhh!


      • Deleted User
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          How does Buzz react to her nipping? Do you stop it every time, or does she stop on her own?


        • Jenalynn
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            sometimes he just takes it… and will turn his head… sometimes when she does it moer aggressively he will run away… he has definitely become the more submissive one after the vet…
            I am there with them and catch her 98% of the time and Ill say “SWEET PEA NO!!” and Ill mist her if I have the water bottle or I will turn her away from him right after and tell her “NO!”… When they are nose to nose through the grids and I am on the bed and i look down.. she will nip his nose and then he will stay there and then she will do it again until I get down there and mist her or shoo her away….


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              If she is obsessed with this one particular spot on his face it must have to do with the medication that spilled on it. A rabbit’s olefactory abilities are quite amazing. I really don’t think 4 hours apart would break your rabbits’ formerly close bond. It is most likely the strange scent that is throwing Sweet Pea off.
              Could you wash the area above his nose and then apply other scents, like banana, or Sweet Pea’s favorite’s fruit scent? Keep putting them together under your supervision. She will get over it with time. Don’t give up.


            • Jenalynn
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                I hope you are right!! – I will try to wash buzzys face when I get home later.. I heard of people putting vanilla extract on both bunnies.. is that a no-no? Should I put banana right in the same spot that she was biting? or somewhere different… and should I also put some banana on her as well. SHe LOVES bananas and buzz will sometimes eat them…
                I will keep trying.
                Thanks for the spirit lift


              • Karla
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                  The banana trick has always worked wonders here, also when Jack had been to the vet and Molly was a bit upset about it.

                  I’ve heard about putting scented oil on the bunnies before so they smell the same. I haven’t tried it, but I’d assume it would work. Give it a try and let us know.


                • Jenalynn
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                    I will go get some bananas today… could I ask exactly how ya do it? Do you just take a little piece and put it on their head so they can just come up and grab it off.. do you rub it in the fur so they have to lick it out? Sorry lol I never did this and I want to do it correctly and not ruin my rabbits fur because I wasn’t sure


                  • Karla
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                      Take a bit of banana and mash it and then smear it loosely on the forehead and maybe the ears. And then show it to the other bunny. The thing is that the bunny with the banana on can smell the banana so give some to his one also. Only do one bunny with the banana at a time otherwise it will be chaos.

                      The banana will dry up and be difficult to get out if the other one doesn’t lick it off. But just wet the area and brush it and it will come off.

                      Think about who’ll you put the banana on…eg. Molly doesn’t lick anyone at all although she loves banana, so for me it has been a waste (and a mess) to put it on the others hoping she would lick it off. But it has worked well the other way around.


                    • Jenalynn
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                        So it went AWESOME! UNTIL…..
                        i washed buzzs face lightly with a rag before I went to class- and then when I got home I put them tgoether and then just put a little bit of banana on his head- just enough to make him smell like it… and they got nose to nose like 6 times and she did nothing at all… they were soooo GREAT – i let them run around together for like 20 minutes- which went so well and then alll of the sudden he gets close and NIP! THEN AGAIN NIP!…… I don’t know what to make of it….. any thoughts?!?!?!!?


                      • Cherry3.142
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                          This sounds exactly like what our female (Pixel) is doing to our male (Chibi). Chibi is older by a month and has been neutered for over a month. Pixel is waiting for the proper age to be altered. It’s her habit to always groom his head, chewing and pulling chunks of fur out right down to the skin. When they get together she always meets him with the submissive position and he always ignores her request for grooming. Usually, he’ll work to force his head under hers until she gives in and grooms him. That’s when the chewing starts. She’ll then come over to chew him at regular intervals throughout the day, even if they were laying or playing in separate locations. He never runs away from it, though. It feels to me like she is annoyed at being snubbed and is getting back at him. It also seems like he’s letting her do it to keep the peace. We’re both hoping that this behavior will stop once she’s been altered. At least her sequestered recovery time should give him the chance to grow his fur back. We’re tired of him always having a ragged hole in his otherwise handsome face!


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                            Nippy grooming can be seen during a bonding but should resolve between two altered rabbits over time. If the rabbit that gets plucked does not run off,  you should intervene.
                            My Neigey was pinching Lint all over but sometimes got obsessed with his face too. With Neigey I could stop him with tapping on his forehead, and pushing his head down to check him. It depends on the rabbit, but it might be worth trying on Sweet Pea.

                             


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                              I am lost…
                              I took them both to the vet this past saturday together in a carrier which takes an hour to get to and an hour to drive back- and they did awesome……. no biting at the face. Brought em home put them in their separate cages- and then later let them out together and it was great- they run around and kind of avoid each other- then they get nose to nose and buzz snuggles with her and grooms her- then after 15-20 minutes – NIP! nIP! RIGHT ON THE FACE – AGAIN… its like they can play together and sometimes cuddle and then out of no where- NIP! This is what makes it so hard for me to completely re-bond… because they are 95% still bonded except for sweet peas nips…and they both want to get out and play with eachother- but I can’t unless I am supervising.. I am going to try the bath tub today I suppose… and start from the beginning


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                                What happens when you let the biting go on? You said she just plucks him, never breaks the skin. Will she stop on her own?


                              • Jenalynn
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                                  I have never let her bite at his face more than 2-3 times in a row… I will see her bite once… and then 2 seconds later she will go and bite again… and then I interrupt her because It seems as if she will keep doing it. So I have never not interrupted…


                                • jerseygirl
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                                    This is a really long shot………..and something you probably don’t want to hear – sorry!

                                    Given his history with dental issues, could she be picking up on some abscess activity?  A “long shot” like i said!


                                  • Jenalynn
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                                      Well, I took Buzz in and had the vet look in his mouth while he was there for his urinalysis, just to make sure she didn’t see an abcess or anything…. she said it looked good and she didn’t see any issues….
                                      So I just kept putting them into a semi-neutral territory everyday for at elast 15-20 minutes… and everytime sweet pea went for his face- I’d spray her or Id put my finger on her head and say NO right before she was about to go for it…. Somedays it didn’t work but each day gradually got better… she wouldn’t do it but maybe once or twice…. then she would do it one time… then eventually- she just stopped… THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!
                                      AND now they are back together and they go EVERYWHERE together because I will not risk them unbonding again…tooo much stress! lol


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                                        Thanks for adding the update. It’s good to read the conclusion to these things. It may well help someone in the future who is experiencing something similar.
                                        Well done for persisting as it paid off. Good on Buzz too, for putting up with Sweetpeas moments!

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