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› FORUM › HOUSE RABBIT Q & A › Why does my bunny have poopybutt? Are greens doing it?
I am a first time bunny owner with a black dwarf- weights about 3 lbs. Ive had her since September 2009, and only in the last few months she has had very runny stool. Sometimes she’ll have hard poop pellets (which from what I understand is what it should always be) and sometimes she’ll have diarrhea. Her diet consists of a handful of pellets everymorning, unlimited amount of hay in her cage at all times, and 2 large servings of some type of green, then usually carrots or a vegi, and she loves banannas or apples pieces. I thought maybe it is because I feed her alot of greens- mostly parsley and dandelion and maybe it is too much water for her system? So for the last two days I decided to feed her only hay and a small handful of pellets every morning (I took out her greens). She stopped eating completely, seemed depressed, so I tossed a carrot in to see if she is just holding out on me, and she scarfed down the carrot (shes being picky now and only wants her vegi’s and wont eat the hay). I do not know what to do with her. I want whats best for her. I hear so many different things about what to feed rabbits and I want advice from people who have owned house rabbits and know what is best for them to eat. Maybe she just has a sensitive stomach? HELP! …..and if it makes any difference. she gets a ton of exercise. When I am home, she is out and about. She is litter trained, but another big problem is that when she has her diarrhea in her litter box, she hops around my house and leaves little stains everyhwere from her poopybutt. I dont believe this is normal. – BUNBUNCRAIG
Hi, my suggestion is to first have a physical examination with a vet. Do you have a rabbit experienced vet in your area?
I have taken her to the vet 3 times since I have had her. The first time was a general check-up, but that was 2 hours away where I graduated college. The other two were at a Petsmart where they had a vet that specialized in small animals. My rabbit was saved out of a sort of shady pet store near my home that basically sells the rabbits for feed. I thought she might have some problems down the road due to the conditions she was in when I got her. She has had the “snuffles” twice, and both times Ive had to give her antibiotics. This is sort of new, and I was hoping before taking her to the vet I could find out what people feed their rabbits and what is best. Both the vets I have gone to charged me an arm and a leg, and they both told me different things to feed her. Or what bedding to keep her in, etc.
Has your bunny ever had a stool sample checked- I would recommend that- there are many intestinal parasites that can cause loose stool.
Also as per feeding I would follow the House Rabbit Society guidelines…….. if it not what you are doing currently don’t make any huge changes to get there- do it gradually unless advised differently by a vet.
https://binkybunny.com/BUNNYINFO…fault.aspx
How old is she? I know the young buns should have pellets, but I would really suggest that you try to put the pellets on hold for a few days to see how she reacts. Pellets can often be the cause of loose stools. And make sure that she gets tons of hay.
I’d also recommend you while having her on pellet-free days supplement her food with FibrePlex.
I created a thread not so long ago about one of my bunnies who had loose stools…coincidentally at the same time I had started feeding him pellets. What I did was put him on a strict hay diet. He didn’t get any veggies for three days, only hay, which he never used to eat at all. I mixed up his hay with raisins and meadow mix in the beginning to make him eat it, and after three days I began to feed some veggies in the evening. Meanwhile he also got FibrePlex. His stomach was completely fine again after 3-4 days.
Now he has actually become a hay eater. It is fantastic. And I haven’t had any problems at all…until Sunday when I gave them a tiny bit of pellets (you’d be amazed about the limited amount) and voila – diarrhea! So back to the hay diet, and he is fine again now, Tuesday evening.
Bottom line: keep an eye on those pellets. They aren’t always that good for some bunnies.
Coco has had bouts of poopybutt too – the first thing I have always done is to increase her hay – and decrease any sugar source ( like carrots and fruit) from her diet. We have stretches of time where she is on a pellet free diet. When Coco gets too many treats ( sugar) it seems to throw off her internal balance. Rabbits need more greens and Fiber, versus the carbs/sugars from fruit and some types of veg.
Rabbits will fuss about the switch. Coco did. She hated hay when I first got her – looked at it and me like I was CRAZY. She now dives in and digs through to find her fave bits. They believe they can wait you out if they refuse to eat. I decreased her pellets over a couple of weeks, while still offering Lots of Greens – but greens only, and Hay ( and I tried several different types, Botanical, Oat, Meadow, Orchard etc)
The other thing I have noticed with Coco is that when her anal glands get blocked – she gets that smeary poo bum syndrome. I don’t know why exactly and I have no real science or advice to back it up, but when I see smears, I check her glands.
My bun always has extra cecals when he gets too many treats. I would totally cut out carrots and fruits for a few days. The extra sugar in them can cause an over production of cecals.
Otherwise, everyeone else gave much better medical advice than I would 😉
It could be caused by any number of things, only a vet would be able to tell. Have him checked for parasites especially since his origin was unsanitary from what I understand.
Also, you might like to read the information in this link
http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/poop.html
Thank you so much for all of your information and input. I am definately going to try and wean her off her pellets and try and get her to eat more hay. Right now she seems completely disinterested in the hay, but I will try some of your recommendations on how to get her to start enjoying it. Ill give it 3 to 4 days with only a hay diet, no treats, and see where we end up. and to Balefulregards…..how do u clean the anal glands? or how do you know if they are blocked? And is it possible that since I have not had her spayed that it could affect her stomach? Ive had mixed reviewes about getting rabbits fixed.
Definitely definitely definitely get her spayed… there is an 80-85% chance for female bunnies to get uterine cancer by age 4 otherwise. That’s just not a risk I’d be willing to take with my bunny. If you find a good, rabbit-savvy vet, there shouldn’t be a problem having her spayed.
I actually had a typo in my first post too. I got her in sept 08′ not 09. She is roughly a year and 7 months. Here is a couple pics of the munchkin. Camera phone pics so they arent that great.
I would not recommend switching her to a hay only diet- drastic diet changes can be just as bad as poor diet. What type of pellets do you feed her- brand name? are they timothy based or alfalfa based.
I would still recommend getting her spayed- she is not too old at all.
See here for cleaning scent gland directions-
https://binkybunny.com/BUNNYINFO…fault.aspx
I also agree with Katnipcrzy NOT to do a drastic change to hay only. There may be other things that are contributing so once you’ve answered some of the questions about her diet, we can help get to the bottom of it.
She’s lovely. She is definitely ready to be spayed, so I would find a vet you like for that, and talk to them about the poopy butt as well.
I actually take a different recommendation from the earlier posts above – I had learned that bananas can cause runny stools, so my first step would be to eliminate the treats, not the greens. A bunny will react this way to any radical change in diet (even a minor change) as Katnipcrzy and BB said, so that may be happening too. A diet of unlimited hay, small (1/8th cup) pellets that are timonthy based with no nuts or things mixed in, and a small handful of simple greens – I like romaine, green or red leaf lettuces – is a well rounded diet. Cutting out the fruits and treats is the best way to see a change, then step by step, cut back on pellets first and only then the greens if you don’t see an improvement. Actually, any diarrhea that lasts more than a day should be checked out by a vet immediately. Hope this helps and doesn’t confuse the issue.
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Originally I was feeding her pellets w/ the treats in it. Then I realized that was bad for her, so I switched her about 2 weeks ago to alfalfa based pellets. she refuses to eat it. I put in her cage, and she literally pushes it away from her or dumps it and then looks up at me like Im crazy for trying (she has a big personality). After reading peoples posts from yesterday, last night and this morning I mixed some spinach and parsley in with her hay to see if that would get her to eat more hay. This morning the majority of the hay and greens were gone which made me happy she’s at least eating. I did the same thing this morning with her food and hopefully when I get home from work, that will be gone too. I also mixed a few raisins in her hay so she had to dig for them and make her a bit more interesting in her hay. Today, my mission is to find numbers to specialized vets to look into pricing for her spaying.
Thanks for all your input. If you have more, I love hearing it. Its been a big help so far. I of course know, however, that if this keeps up Ill have no other choice than to bring her back to the vet. I was just hoping I could figure it out without having to go that route.
Thanks everyone
And RabbitPam, thanks for the advice. Ill get her some Timothy based pellets instead of using the Alfalfa. I feel like if she isnt eating it now, then she probably wont start, which according to you and others, thats ok because they dont need pellets. Ill still try in case. She is not going to be getting treats anymore. Its so frustrating when your a new mommy to this precious little thing, yet you go to the pet store and there are just isles upon isles of treats that you THINK are good for them, then you join a forum like this and find out that Ive been doing much more bad than good for her. Thank you again!!!!
My final question to all of you- I just called around to get prices on spaying bun. Can you please tell me what to expect to pay? because so far, I havent gotten anything under $450, and to me, that is extremely high. Is this normal????????????????????
It is really expensive to have a bunny spayed. But remember that it is worth all the money. You only have to pay for it once in your bunny’s lifetime and by doing it, you take away all risks of her getting cancer in the reproduction organs. Thus, you actually pay for having your bunny’s lifespan expanded.
Furthermore, any hormonal behaviour is removed, which will make her a much greater pet and it will be easier to litter train her.
I didn’t mean to suggest that she be pellet free ( and I hope that I didn’t sound that way). Even when I moved Coco ( and later Jackson) from the not so good pellets to the Oxbow, I did the 1/4 ratio movement – week 1: 1/4th new pellet to 3/4ths old pellets, week 2, 1/2 new to 1/2 old, until by week 4, she/they were transitioned.
She was also not a very good greens eater at first – having only had pellets all her life. Her first salads were very straightforward. Romaine, an herb ( usually mint) and dandelion. It took her a bit to figure out that Here it Was. This was her meal. I wouldn’t offer pellets until the evening when she had plenty of opportunity to eat the Hay or greens, because if the pellets were there, she would dive in nose first to THOSE and ignore everything else.
I do understand about the treats – I gave Coco those yogurt treats when I first got her and of course, she thought those were THE BOMB. Which made her look at me more strangely when I took them away. That treat aisle is very deceptive.
As to spaying – Yes, it is expensive…but very very worth it. Have you looked at the House Rabbit society list of rabbit savvy vets yet? Coco came in at about 350 dollars, in Montreal at the exotics Vet. It is important to have an rabbit experienced vet, as others will agree, as rabbits are different from your run of the mill Cat and Dog spay. However, the hormone changes and the litter improvement are vastly worth it. The vet can do a gland cleaning too for you and nails.
As far as sugar, I just know that when She ( in particular) gets alot of treats from the husband – I see smeary poo. He snuck her a chunk of watermelon last night….extra blob of cecals this morning. Jackson doesn’t seem to have a sensitive tummy in the same way, but she is an easy tell to know when too many goodies have come her way.
In fact, you’ve reminded me that it is time to have Jacksons teeth re-checked and I should call in for an appt!
Balefulregards- Replying to you, Thank you for the information on your bunnies. My bun bun is actually completely opposite when it comes to loving greens. As you said, yours loves pellets and had to get used to greens, mine loooooooooves greens and is real picky with her pellets. I went out and bought timothy based pellets earlier, so I am going to try what you said. Im going to mix her timothy pellets with the not so good and slowly take away the not so good as the week goes by. Hopefully she is fooled, because at the moment, she is being a huge brat and just pushing her GOOD pellets out, and waiting for the pellets with all the goodies in it- which she isnt getting. Ive never had a problem with her eating greens. She loves them. i just have to work on her eating more hay and the timothy pellets.
I definitely recommend a search on the House Rabbit Society’s website, http://www.rabbit.org. They have a link for looking for a vet in your area, where you go to the page and enter your zip code I think. Maybe it’s listed by state instead. But there usually are about 4 vets near a major location and you can call them to compare.
A spay of a girl is more expensive than a neuter. I think I was quoted 250 but then I added some meds and a nail trim so it went higher. But she did really well, they used dissolving stitches so I didn’t have to bring her back, she stayed overnight so they could keep a close watch on her, and I now have great peace of mind. A spay usually ranges from around $120 – 450.
Glad you got the timmy pellets. The alfalfa is best for baby bunnies, and if she doesn’t like it, and prefers greens to pellets, you’re doing well. ![]()
Most bunnies prefer alfalfa pellets to timothy pellets- and switching them can take some time. Alfalfa is not a grass like timothy is- so it is more appealing to most animals- but not as appropriate for adult, non-breeding bunnies. Cotton tried to reject the new timothy pellets mixed into her alfalfa pellets when she was at the transistion stage- but I was consistent and now she eats Oxbow Timothy only- and not only that- she begs and dances for her pellets.
She is such a cute bunny! I think that cutting out the alfalfa pellets will help a lot, that is great that you are on a plan to switch her to timothy pellets. Also, if she is eating a lot of veg and not a lot of hay, that could be causes more mushy poops, so as you are encouraging her hay eating I think you will see a lot of improvement as well. I am also currently transitioning my bunnies off pellets because we have had a few bouts of stasis recently, so we are trying to encourage more hay eating by reducing pellets. My bunnies used to get one Tablespoon of pellets in the morning and one at night, now we have cut that down to a half Tablespoon in the morning and half at night. Eventually we are going to cut out the half Tablespoon at night.
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