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I wanted to see if anybody had some insight into Otto’s recent behavior because I’m really confused.
Here’s a picture of his cage setup:

Recently, he has become very skittish while in the blue pet store cage portion (on the left). In the past, I could walk right up to him, pet him, whatever. Now, if I walk into the dining room while he’s in the cage, he flips out and runs as fast as he can to the safety of his maze (on the right). Today, I was able to approach the cage, but as soon as my hand was in it to pet him, he ran under the shelf area of the cage as if he was terrified of me. I can’t figure it out! Once he’s in his maze haven, he lets me pet him and even enjoys it – no scared behavior. I have wondered if it was some territorial related behavior, but wouldn’t he show some signs of aggression in that case? Instead of running away? He also does this when I’m no where near reaching in and touching him – I can be 5-10′ away.
When he’s out of his cage, he’s not skittish at all. When he’s in the xpen portion of his cage, he’s not skittish either and will let me come right up to him, pet him, whatever. I don’t like that I’m stressing him out – I try to approach carefully, make enough noise that I don’t startle him, but there are situations where he clearly sees me coming and chooses to freak out anyway. He acts like I’ve snuck up on him and yelled “boo”.
Do you guys have any insight or ideas? He seems to be less afraid at night, after he goes back for his dinner. Most of his freak-outs occur in the morning or afternoon for some reason. Do you think it would help if I spent time sitting near his cage (far enough away that he hopefully won’t freak out)? I just don’t know. He’s never been skittish before in his life and it makes me sad that he’s getting so stressed out now.
Do you speak when you approach him? I just wondering if you are approaching him from his “blind” side and just aren’t realizing it those times.
Yeah, I try to talk to him and make sure I’m walking loudly so I’m not sneaking up. Sometimes I do think he just doesn’t see me or hear me (his hearing never seemed to be spectacular). But today, he was sitting in his litter box facing me and I was in full view – he must’ve seen me before I reached my hand in the cage and he’s never fussed with me petting him while we was eating or in his litter box before. Usually he thinks the approach of my hand means treats ![]()
I’m going to try speaking to him earlier (before I’m even in the dining room) and walking slowly to make sure I get his attention first. It’s the only thing I can think of at the moment! Bunnies can be so confusing. ![]()
Wondering if he’s just going through puberty…
That’s a possibility. He’s 11 months old at the moment, neutered at 4 or 5, and he’s never shown any type of age related behavior. Maybe he’s just a late bloomer and he’s only starting his teenage period now.
Maybe something scared him through the window one day, and he was in his cage at the time. He might just be thinking you’re the scary thing when he’s in there now. Monkey got scared by a bird one day, and it took her awhile to settle, was a good couple of weeks before she stopped getting freaked by somethign moving when she didnt expect it.
MB, that’s a plausible idea! Definitely possible.
He went into his cage this afternoon so I tried to approach very slowly. I called him from 10-15′ away and let him know I was coming. He stopped and looked up at me, clearly saw me, but looked very nervous. So I just got down on the ground and kind of crawled slowly over and by the time I got to him he was fine. What a weirdo!! Haha. I’m going to be more conscious every time and try to approach like this. I figure each time I can get to him without him freaking out will be helpful for him to get over his phobia.
Just don’t flap your wings :~) But I think that is plausible too. Or even a pesky squirrel has been chattering at him at the window.
Yes, that was my first thought when I saw your set up was that his view from there is out the window at the sky and a tree. He may feel vulnerable on both sides while in that corner.
Any chance of experimenting with a curtain so he can’t see out, and then see if his behavior changes? Even draping a sheet across the window, then approaching him carefully, would tell you if it’s partly due to the view.
Pam, I’ll try putting up a sheet tomorrow. There’s absolutely nothing outside that window though – no birds, squirrels, kids, nothing (it’s strange how quiet it is; sometimes I wonder if people even live in half of the other townhouse units). Very quiet. But that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t make him nervous just to be exposed. We’ll see if a sheet helps.
I also wondered if he might see my reflection in the window and get scared with a reflection and a person approaching. Though it is odd how he’ll look right at me very tense and nervous like I have 3 heads – he’s not looking out the window when he gets scared. Maybe I look scarier than I think I do 😛
It mostly confuses me because we’ve had him since April and he’s never shown any skittish-ness until just a few weeks ago. He’s even fine moving to new places and living with new people.
Try the Rescue Remedy for him – see if that helps.
Worth a try. I know bunnies can hear much better than we can at times, so a street nearby or a neighbors tree may be enough. but something that flies really, really high up can be seen by bunnies even though we won’t notice.
Check yourself out for any changes in your own silhouette. They know us by our shape, too, so if you wear a hat or something different he may not be sure it’s you. Also a new perfume or scented lotion. I like the reflection idea.
Ooo, just had another idea: Swap the positions of the maze and the blue thing in his space. Put the maze on the left, and move the blue to the right, possibly rotating it differently as well. It will change the view.
Good luck.
Pam, I was wondering if changing his environment around would help or make it worse – I’m glad you suggested it! Switching things up may throw him off enough that he doesn’t remember he’s supposed to be afraid and will allow him to start fresh.
Also, for flying things, I just remembered that we do live very close to an airport. It’s a tiny airport and only flies ultralights and similar 1 or 2 person planes, but still, they’re constantly flying over at fairly low heights. I would’ve thought he’d get used to them, but there’s a chance he doesn’t like them.
I just thought of something else that may have started this. His only other skittish time is if we go to bed, turn all the lights off, and then come back down later (like if I can’t sleep and want to read). Even though I walk loudly and call his name, he often gets freaked out by the time I turn the lights on (he’ll stay very still until the moment the light goes on, then he’s off like a shot). This might have triggered the response, and now he does it more often? It always made sense that he was afraid if we showed up out of the dark and turned on a light. His current behavior doesn’t make much sense (especially because he’s so laid back most of the time) but maybe they’re linked. He just learned to be on his guard while in his cage.
That was my thought when i saw the pic set up. It appears sort of low light. Even times of day you may appear just a silhouette form depending on how the light comes in. I guess he’s not used to that when you were at work full time. He may be asleep in the cage when you approach. The other thing I though is that the cage has only one exit where as the maze and pen have other escape routes. So instinctively, he may react differently in the cage/ feeling trapped? Can you take the cage top off or does he like to get up on top of it? To me, it’s sounds like a perception thing. Outdoors, I often see Jersey scoot of for cover when a plane comes over, but she only does it when it’s coming right overhead. She hears it for a while, becomes alert but comtinues grazing then at last minute she scoots. She’s been here 2 years and still does it.
I actually wouldn’t change his set up too much, I think it’s probably impportant to his sense of security. Also, I’m thinking a big change for his set up may occur in his future anyway if you’re looking to get another rabbit.
Has he picked up on any smells from your shelter work by the way?
Hey Jers! I might try taking the top of the cage off for a while and see what he does. And I think there’s something to your thought that he’s started doing this since I’ve been home all day. He was used to everybody leaving by 8am and now when I come down at 8:30 that’s when he seems to freak out the most. Maybe he just liked the idea of being alone to do his thing and eat his breakfast in peace. Now that I think of it, we feed him and then go to bed immediately, so he gets to eat most of that in peace too.
I do think he’s picked up on the shelter bunny smells – I noticed that the first day. I changed all of my clothes and washed up, but he really didn’t want anything to do with me that day. He didn’t seem skittish, just not affectionate. I guess that made sense though.
This morning I came down and he was eating. I called his name and he clearly stopped eating to look at me. I tried to approach very slowly, on the floor, but once I got 5′ away he bolted. ::sigh:: Once he was in his maze he seemed to realize it was me and came over so I could pet him. He still has a lot of breakfast left, so I’ll try some new approaches when he goes back to finish it. I’m going to try approaching the other way around the dining room table. He might be able to see me differently over there as I’ll be approaching from a different angle.
Idk. My thought was to also try removing the cage and see what happens. It’s really not necessary to have the blue cage if he always has access to the xpen anyways.
Beka, he has lived in just the xpen whenever we take him somewhere, but I find the blue cage keeps things sooo much cleaner. Without it, he gets hay everywhere and it ends up all over the house. But I can definitely try taking it away. I can also try feeding him out in the xpen to see if he calms down a bit.
I would try. It doesn’t hurt to try something new, and if it doesn’t work you can always change it back. Explore your options.
It looks like the cage is making up one wall of the enclosure, so if you removed it, would you make the xpen smaller? Or you could do what I did and get a 2nd pen. Altho, if he has adequate out of cage playtime, he really doesn’t need a huge pen.
I would probably just have to make the pen smaller, but he gets plenty of out of cage time. Technically he can come out any time he wants, but he tends to stay in his cage area all day and come out from 7-10pm. A second xpen would be nice, but is a little expensive so it would probably have to wait until we got a second bun.
I’m definitely trying some of the things you guys suggested! He’s the worst in the mornings, so I’ll see how he is tomorrow morning with a modified cage set up.
In that case, I would just try and make the pen smaller. If the cage came out, the maze could take it’s place and that side and he wouldn’t really be “losing” any room, since the cage isn’t really “functional space” anyways. Try it, and take pics of your new set-up!
AND… BONUS! You’d be able to reach your patio doors!
Lol, oh my goodness, we never use our patio anymore since the bunny
Grilling is such a pain because one person pretty much has to stay out there while the other one hands things out. Or we just take the pen down altogether, which Otto actually loves because then he can play with (ie chew) on the curtains.
I look forward to the day when my 2 babies can just run free… *sighs*
Looks like I gotta make the hubby do some bondign sessions while I supervise. M&M are in a similar place as Otto, by the patio door. And I have the same problem with getting out there! lol
have you changed anything lately as far as smells go in your house? new perfume? new air freshener?
i’ve been having trouble with MJ being fairly skittish lately. he was neutered about 2 months ago and in the past few weeks he’s become increasingly skittish. we’ve started cooking a lot more than we used to, though, and i’ve decided this must be the cause.
i think bunnies are super sensitive to smells. i swear MJ knows when i change shampoos.. lol.
Do you have a window or glass door on the opposite side to his pen also? Just thinking if so, and morning sun comes in that side, you would definately appear as just a shape to him if he’s looking into light.
So in the past on weekends when you’ve been there around this time, did he ever react this way?
Corpathina, I don’t think we’ve changed any smells. I started staying home all day with him, but that’s the only change we’ve made lately. I also started volunteering with bunnies once a week, but I make sure to wash all of the clothes I wear immediately and wash up, so I’m not sure it would affect him more than that one day a week. Plus, he’s been doing this skittish stuff for a month and I’ve only worked at the rescue a few weeks.
Jers, the patio door is west facing. In the living room there’s a big east facing window. So when I approach him, the east facing window is at my back and it’s very possible I appear just as a sillouette. Yesterday I tried sitting on the ground and letting him see that it was me before approaching. He was able to check me out and figure me out before I went closer and he didn’t bolt once!
Otto seems to be doing a lot better now! In the past two weeks I’ve tried really hard to only approach his cage in a very slow calm manner. I had to go so far as stopping and sitting on the ground (10ft away) until he relaxed, then moving forward again. I also thought about what Jersey said – that the window behind me was creating a silhouette in the morning, so I make sure to turn on the dining room light so he can see my face. Gradually, he’s been a lot better. I’ve also made sure to have more treats when I come to visit, so he started to forget about the fear thing
He still definitely stops and looks nervous when I initially approach, but he gets over it much quicker and then I’m ok to walk up to him. He’s even started coming out into the pen area more (before he stayed mostly in his cage or maze and only travelled between them). Now he’ll even lay out in the middle of the pen! And if he runs away from me, it’s only in a slow “Oh it’s you. I don’t really want to talk to you right now” kind of way
instead of a panicked scramble.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I’m not really sure what his deal was, but having so many different ideas to try really helped me get to the bottom of it and turn it around. I think changing up his routine and the way I did things helped loads.
Glad to hear he is settling down now. Seems like the techniques you’re using are helping. Does he recognize a treat bag shake or crinkle? Maybe you could give him a little treat when you approach and that may help too.
It’s hard to tell how far from the ground you are but I know our backyard goes through stages of different regular visits from raccoons and neighboring cats. And maybe a cat or raccoon or something visited earlier in the am and freaked him out, making him more on guard.
The raccoons around here learned how open our back screen door to get to the washroom where the kitty food is. We stopped that with easy extra latch locks, but you could tell they tried for about a week to open the door as their little raccoon paws were allover the bottom three feet.
Our yard has nothing in it, BB, to the point of being odd. Lol. It’s unnaturally quiet. Not to say there aren’t animals wandering at night, but during the day there’s zip. CT is known for lots of coyotes, so there could be anything lurking at night. There are lots of small planes (ultralights, 1 and 2 seaters) from the local airstrip, but he doesn’t seem to notice those. Jersey did aks about backlighting, and that is true – the patio faces west, so there’s a window in the front that faces east. When I approach in the morning, it’s probably tough for Otto to see my face. He seems much more cautious in the morning, so this could be a big reason.
I do have a plastic container of dried papaya and I shake that whenever I’m coming to see him.
That’s hilarious that your raccoons could open doors. Smart little buggers!
ditto on the raccoons! I almost a little sad for them when they discovered they couldn’t get in.
El, a bird might have flown into the window and startled him too…. On the backlighting thing, just yesterday I was sitting in the kitchen near a window and Rumball ran into the kitchen doorway, peered at me and ran back out. Did it again and again. I got the giggles but I had to go into the other room and go behind him to walk him out thru the kitchen as I knew he wanted to go thru. He was fine then. I don’t know if I was a silhouette or he wanted to play chase (not likely). Silly Lops!
*shivers* Raccoons are scary… they killed my kitty ![]()
