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Hi folks.. it’s been awhile since I last posted, but Bella and I have been through quite a bit. My Bella Bunneh seems to have an anxiety issue that causes some frequent gut stasis. I mean, 2 serious episodes and one scare.. seems pretty frequent to me and my Vet, anyway. So.. I’ve been doing some research ..and looking for a more Bunny Experienced Vet.. and I’m wondering if Xanax has been used for any of your Buns.. and would you mind sharing, if so.
The problem seems to be that ANY slight change in Bella’s routine.. I mean, the tiniest change.. will upset her to the point of not eating, getting gassy and going into early stasis. For her past life.. being found where she was… being mistreated like she was… I can’t blame her for any of this.. how could I, anyway… but it scares me quite a bit. I don’t even leave my house for more than a couple of hours at a time.. nor do I sleep straight through the night… for fear that she will go into full stasis and I will get to her too late.
There has to be something…
Has Bella been spayed yet? (I looked and couldn’t find a post about it) It might calm her down a little. What about a friend for her? I know you mentioned something about looking for a bunny friend at some point. Having other rabbits around has really helped calm Nova down, as she is not nervous about every little noise. Even if they are just living next to each other this could help. Though I also understand that getting a second bun when your first is already proving to be difficult might not work for you.
I am going to assume that she has constant hay, and greens once or twice a day.
If you use one, have you checked to make sure her water bottle is working properly?
I don’t recall hearing about anyone else on the forum using Xanax personally, but I am sure the more experienced forum members will be able to better answer your question about the medicine, and its use in rabbits.
Xanax I dont’ know.
Rabbits can have chamomile. People use that as a tea to help them sleep. I have given some to Cotton and Ruby. He was so relaxed the next day.
Ruby she is always relaxed lol.
OH the chamomile I got some at a mexican store. They had a bag of dried chamomile flowers to make tea. I just take out a teaspoon and feed it to my buns now n then for a change in menu. A herb store one that has the actual herbs not the bottles of pills would have some too.
Oh we use sage to settle the stomache too. I have dried sage from a sage plant we had. I use it for my tummy as does my husband we do that sometimes.
These things are herbs the sage and chamomile
My buns get them on occassion too. I just put the dried herb about a tsp full in their bowls. Might help your girl. ![]()
Bella has not been spayed. She has not proven to be “other bunneh” friendly, but she is neighbors with my Cavy… and they keep up a good conversation. (I think River.. the Cavy.. is head over heels in love with Miss Bella… and she could give a rabbit’s butt about him.. LOL!) She doesn’t have aggressive behaviour.. she isn’t marking.. she just doesn’t seem to do well with any change in her routine. If I could control the weather, we might be anxiety free. *sigh*
As for proper diet.. she eats very well. She gets unlimited hay (timothy and some oat mixed in) on a daily basis, as well as, two fresh salads and a snack. I have an entire organic garden dedicated to my herbivores (bunneh, cavy, and reptiles), with plenty of herbs and greens, and other edibles. When it isn’t in season, I shop at Whole Paycheck or Berkeley Bowl for organic produce.
Someone else mentioned using chamomile for her, so I will pick some up when I shop this weekend. I also make “cookies” for her, the 2 Chinchillas and my Cavy boy.. so I will work on a recipe that can act as a “calming cookie” treat, when needed.
I just wish she spoke english.. or I spoke bunneh’ese. It would make our lives so much easier.. and I could help her more.
Is there a reason she hasn’t been spayed yet? Spaying her may reduce her anxiety.. maybe its the urge to breed that has her going.
I thought like Kytkattin, that a friend may be beneficial but you’ve already been down that avenue… I looked quickly at some previous post – you were looking at getting her a friend and having her fixed. Has her health prevented this? I know was in a bad way before you took her into your home.
I know nothing about anti anxiety meds. I have heard Bach flower remedies like Rescue Remedy have been used.
You also mentioned previously teeth issues? Stress from this could bring on stasis. Do you mind letting us know what area you reside? Some might be able to give you recommendations of a vet.
Yes, I think spaying may help relieve some hormonal anxiety. I agree with Jersey as well about the dental issues.
I think you should do a thorough check up with blood work as well.
Bella’s been to several Vets, actually. She has not been spayed because of her anxiety about change (and a couple other factors that I don’t care to discuss here). Her teeth issues have been resolved.. long ago, actually. She’s eating hay and other “therapy” type chewy edibles, on a daily basis, and her teeth are really healthy.
She’s been running around the house, this morning.. doing the binkies.. and investigating.. even nibblin’ on hubby’s toes. I think she’s going to be okay .. I hope she is. We’re just going to take it slow and see if we can’t take a different approach to de-stressing her.
I’m in Northern CA ..near San Francisco, sort of.. the Bay Area. We’ve tried a Vet in Novato area, Lafayette and Berkeley. The doc in Lafayette was the most experienced with rabbits, but I wasn’t impressed, otherwise. Novato Vet is a NO GO!!! I won’t subject either of us to that woman again. My Exotic Vet in Berkeley is “good” ..but he’s more for my reptiles. So yeah.. I’m open to suggestions.
Well this is the HRS Bay area listings: http://www.rabbit.org/rabbit-center/resources/vets.html
In this list is Dr Carolynn Harvey. Binky Bunny sees her and I believe a few other members here. She’s apparently very good.
The thing I’m thinking is that if she gets spayed, her anxiety may go down…
I have used the Bach’s rescue remedy for Coco – and it does quite a nice job. I also use it for me too, I am a fan of the Flower Remedies..
In fact, I used the last for me a couple of nights ago to help me sleep…..
Dr. Harvey is in Haywood, is that near you? She treats the rabbits for the House Rabbit Society Headquarters and BinkyBunny does take her rabbits to Dr. Harvey as well and I believe so does MarkusBun…if I lived there I would take my rabbits to her as well….
Just to quote BB from another thread also…
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Thanks Jersey! Yes, triple ditto Dr. Harvey at Chabot Vet Clinic in Hayward. She’s one of the very best! Her hours are more limited, but again, if you can’t get into see her then try Dr. Arntz at Bay Area VCA (off Shattuck) in Oakland.
T-touch may also be a way to help with some behaviorial issues like anxiety. If you are able to see Dr. Harvey, you should also ask her about T-Touch (she teaches this and may be able to guide you to classes around the bay area). Also check with some of the local rescues like SaveABunny and HRS in Richmond as many times they will have classes on it.
Thanks! I will look into it. I did pick up some chamomile and hops at Lhasa Karnak, yesterday.. still have to research if hops are okay for the bun. She’s been doing a lot more full house free ranging for the last couple of days.. and it seems to be helping with some behaviour. She’s not freaking out with every move in the house.. not so upset about my touching things in her enclosure. She’s been binky’ing all over the place.. something we’d never seen her do before this last episode with her tummy. She has decided to annoy the tortoise, though. Poor Jooby.
It’s hard to grasp what the extent of her issues (trauma’wise) are without being able to “talk” to her. However, observing her so closely.. it seems she’s coming around in her own good time.
You know, I think that helping a rabbit through stasis is one of the best (and worst for obvious reasons) bonding experiences for a rabbit and owner. What could prove more to a rabbit that you aren’t going to eat her than not only not harming her in a time of weakness, but actually doing what you can to help her. I hope the new vet is helpful and you get to the bottom of this. Though time seems to be the most helpful thing on your side right now. ![]()
I just did a search for anxiety on HRS, and there was an article about petting bunnies in a way that helps with nervous or ill bunnies. I am copying the salient paragraphs:
“Some very important points exist on either side of the spine, particularly between the shoulder blades, and stroking these areas may help release anxiety, grief, and fear. Yes, it’s pretty difficult to get your fingers between the shoulder blades of a four-pound rabbit, but give it a try. Using your pinkie, gently pet the bunny several times along the upper section of the spine. All animals will have different spots to which they respond, but this is a good, general area to start. If he relaxes and starts purring after a few minutes, you have a winner!
Another area to keep in mind is the ear. All the acupressure points in the body are mimicked here, and you may already have noticed that Bunny loves to have his ears rubbed. Start at the base of the ear with your thumb on one side and your index finger on the other. Draw your fingers up to the top of the ear with long strokes that encompass its full length. Repeat these gentle pulls until you’ve covered the whole area. You’ve now given your friend a whole bunny-body-tune-up for the price of an ear rub! Many rabbits who shy away from petting will allow their ears to be stroked, so this may be a good place to build up trust.”
While I am sure you pet your bunny, this may be effective in the long run and easier than any kind of tranquilizer. I also wonder, if you’re spending that much time at home, whether you are giving your bunny enough private hours of undisturbed deep sleep? Maybe get away for longer periods which will relax you more, and possible be handled better than you think.
That’s cool Pam. Both mine respond really well to a forward shoulder roll type massage on the shoulder blades – I wonder if I’m hitting those trigger spots? Base of the ear too, they love that. Rumball has become so much less flighty when my hands approach now and I attribute it to him enjoying a massage. When you can get your hands on Sammy, you should try the articles technique. She may become addicted. I imagine it’d be easier to give this massage with your hands rather than your feet!!
Now that’s neat Pam
Yes I triple ditto seeing Dr. Harvey -I’ve never seen her but many here do see her and she’s quite the expert
I can’t remember-did you adopt this bun or have you had her since she was a baby? I’m wondering if she’s always been nervous -just disposition wise or if something happened?
The info regarding touch is very interesting. When I studied Eastern Medicine, I always had it in the back of my mind that I would extend my research and education to animals and acupuncture, etc., as well. (Life had a different plan, but it still intrigues me.)
Bella is one of the buns that got dumped at the Chevron Refinery.. left for dead.. after being mistreated for however long, prior to the dump. Humans can suck that way.. as I’m sure you all are aware. She was skin and bones, literally. She had mites and ticks beyond imagination. Her teeth were loose or grossly overgrown. She had a blank kind of “war zone” stare that nothing could break. Her ears were brittle, even.. from sunburn. She was a mess, to put it mildly ..and that was just what we could SEE on the outside. Who knows what goes on in her little mind.. what haunts her, still.
From day one, she’s seemed to respond well to touch from me. She was on a lot of meds and daily care, in the early days, so while I would have her out for that.. she’d stretch out across my lap and I would do a very mild, but deep, massage from behind her ears down to her tail. You could just feel her melt into a puddle with every stroke. She still loves this ..and seeks out our feet.. head butts us… and lets us know she wants some attention.
In spite of all this social behaviour, though.. she seems to react severely to any small change or smell or noise. It’s just very odd. And in the last 3 days.. 4, maybe? …she’s become a different bunny altogether. Of course, we’ve super dooper bunny proofed the house and she has more access to more rooms ..so I am assuming that this has desensitized her somewhat. I really don’t know. Maybe she has been trapped in her “shell” from all the trauma, until now? She’s just now emerging into her true bunny self?
Whatever is happening.. we have Dr. Harvey’s info now.. thanks.. and I am growing more confident in my regular Exotics Vet, as he’s shed plenty of light on the “myths” that others have told me, thus far. I think we are on the right track.
Thanks everyone!
I remember now about Ms. Bella! She has had a horrible start to life. She’s lucky to have you to take care of her, that’s for sure. If only they could talk! I’ve done a few animal communications in the past with some of my rabbits…I have to say though, I’m not sure of how much of that I believe. I also understand Reiki is another healing touch thing, so maybe that’s something to consider.
I have heard of Rescue Remedy being used for specific stress incidences- I would probably not use it on a daily basis as she needs to learn to cope with environment and changes- but if she has a freak out you could give her a dose- I think it a drop or 2- it is in an alcohol type base- so you might want to add a bit of sweetener to it- like a titch of apple juice. This stuff is made for humans and considered homeopathic herbal/flower essences. So you can try a drop on your tongue to see what it tastes like. I would recommend asking the vet you trust about this though.
EDIT: or if she will eat during these episodes you could try to put a drop on a papaya tablet and let it soak in or a Oxbow Barley Biscuit (if sheis used to them). Griffin one of my buns did not like his Metacam (practically unheard of) so I let it soak into a Oxbow Barley Biscuit and then of course he ate the biscuit and the meds.
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