Final Leo Post, sorry I needed to share

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- 01/07/2010 at 4:09 AM
  skunklionshow
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  This is in re: to Tiny Poops Create Anxiety
  
  We took Leo into the emergency room last night after he refused forced feeding. He likely has a tooth root abscess, they found a “fluctuant, round mass below his left jaw.” We wanted to leave him at the emergency hospital last night (Univ of Penn), but do to financial reasons, we could not afford it. They gave him antibiotics, inflam, & fluids. They tried to force feed, but he refused. I’m trying not to feel guilty for not being more on top of it. Anyway….the quote I was given last night for removal/ biopsies was $1000-1500. We were told to try to force feed during the night or give him anything that he will eat, including as much banana as he will take. He ate about 1/4 of a whole banana over night and pooped about a dozen small poops.
  
  My concern today and what I would like input on ASAP: Should I bring him back to Upenn or bring him into my regular vet? As I posted in my previous post, my 2 regular vets at the practice have just left as of 12/31 & at this point I am unable to locate either. My thought is that I am familiar w/ much of the staff at my current practice (though not the other bunny vet) & it may likely be cheaper. I am embarrassed to admit that all my credit cards are maxed out & I just learned that Care Credit has also closed out my acct for late payment last month (I learned this last night at the ER). I do have vet insurance (AMEN!) but I do not have much means to pay the 50% down payment required at Upenn. I’m hoping my regular practice can work w/ me somehow. Please give input! I am terrified about the whole thing. Is this more regular/ treatable than it feels right now? I had to go into work this morning and plan to leave by 9am EST, so I’m hoping that someone in the world is awake to give their 10cents b/f I have to decide/leave.
  
  I have been keeping Jess & Leo together throughout all their trips. They are currently in my office, since we only have 1 car, I had to drive DH to work this AM (5AM!!!) and go right into work so I can drive to the hospital. We were at the ER until 12:30am & I stayed up w/ Leo encouraging banana eating until about 2am. I have had no sleep and almost dead at this point.
- 01/07/2010 at 4:43 AM
  angelicvampyre
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  I would go back to your vet and see if they can work something out with you. Yeah you might not know that rabbit vet but if you are a existing customer with a good credit rating with them (eg you have always paid your bills) i am sure they would give you some help with this.
  
  Coffee is you friend and BIG BIG hugs
- 01/07/2010 at 5:13 AM
  Beka27
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  I’m so sorry. These things always seem to happen at the worst possible time. I agree with angelicvampyre… I’d try to get in to see your regular vet today for a second opinion and a quote.
  
  (((Leo!)))
- 01/07/2010 at 5:30 AM
  jerseygirl
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  Ditto. I vote go to your regular clinic too. They will have Leo’s records there. I guess they need to treat the gut slowdown and possible pain first?
  (((Healing Vibes)))
- 01/07/2010 at 5:47 AM
  Sarita
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  Regular clinic is my choice as well. They can get the records from the emergency vet and you can go from there in your decisions about what to do and in the meantime they can treat the immediate concerns.
- 01/07/2010 at 7:54 AM
  skunklionshow
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  I wanted to adjust the subject line but I do not know how to do it.
  
  Leo passed away in my arms this morning. I dropped DH off at work & went into my office for my meeting. I brought the rabbits, so I could take Leo to the vet immediately after my meetings. I packed Leo & Jessica up together and on my way out the door I heard Leo flip over. I knew what that meant & I pulled him out of the carrier immediately. I held him and stroked his fur until his final breath. I LOVED him so much and am trying not to blame myself. I told myself last night that if all my Binky friends could deal w/ their bunny loss I could too [again]. I called UPenn to let them know that Leo died, DH, and my reg vet practice.
  
  When I called my reg practice for advice this morning, b/f he died, they told me that the bunny vet didn’t come in until 1pm and if it couldn’t wait until then, I should take him back to UPenn. I even asked them: “so you are saying that you cannot contact the bunny vet or one of the reg bunny techs to ask if they could do the procedure….I need to just go to Upenn?” I was told “Yes”. That broke my heart, they’ve always accommodated me and helped me out, except at the time I needed them most.
  
  Do I need to do anything w/ Jessica at this point? I let her out of her carrier w/ Leo’s body at my office and we showed no interest in him. I brought Leo home and placed him in the cage w/ her and she did not go near him. Maybe she already said goodbye? DH wants to bury him in his mom’s garden, so he asked me to keep Leo’s body and not take him in for cremation. I know I have to pack him up & put him in the freezer, but b/f I do so is there anything else I need to do for Jessica?
  
  Thank you everyone! I love you all for all the support you’ve always given me. I keep telling myself that if Binky was able to move on so can I and that is a HUGE comfort to me now! Binky Free Leo, always in my heart. His picture is my avatar.
- 01/07/2010 at 7:58 AM
  Sarita
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  Oh, I’m so sad, I know you are heartbroken. Hugs to you and Jessica.
  
  I have a feeling Jessica has already said her good-byes. I have a pair and recently had to euthanize the partner and both rabbits were together for the procedure and it seemed like Toffee already knew and she has been fine since.
- 01/07/2010 at 8:13 AM
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  I’m very sorry that Leo passed away. I would give all my attention to Jessica for comfort and also because you lost someone together. Maybe you can have her in your bedroom at night. –How old was Leo?
  I think it is a beautiful place to have him buried in a garden. I think all bunnies would pick that if they could.
- 01/07/2010 at 9:34 AM
  Monkeybun
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  I am so sorry for your loss of Leo Moose and Monkey send you snuggles, and we all hope you and Jessica will be ok. *hugs*
- 01/07/2010 at 10:06 AM
  Beka27
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  I’m so sorry. *Hugs* :o(
  
  Binky Free Leo.
- 01/07/2010 at 10:08 AM
  TARM
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  Oh no. I’m so sorry.
- 01/07/2010 at 10:23 AM
  Sage Cat
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  !!!Binky free Leo!!!
  Bunny Kisses and snuggles from Me, Kay & Winston for you and Jessica.
- 01/07/2010 at 10:28 AM
  RabbitPam
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  I’m so sorry to hear about Leo.
  You have given Jessica the opportunity to understand that he is gone, so now she just is grieving the loss.
  Give her lots of pets and attention, and don’t be concerned if she is a little off her feed or withdrawn for a bit. Just take comfort from her and be there for her.
  
  {{{Hugs to you, DH and Jessica}}}}}}}}}
- 01/07/2010 at 10:30 AM
  bunnyluvr
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  I am so sorry this happened. !!Binky free sweet Leo!!
- 01/07/2010 at 1:14 PM
  wendyzski
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  I’m so sorry
- 01/07/2010 at 2:35 PM
  MimzMum
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  I can hardly type, my eyes are so full of tears…I am so sorry to hear this about Leo!
  It makes me sad that the world is such that when someone is in great need, there are very few who will go that extra mile to help, even if it means extending themselves. I feel for you that the ones around you that you trusted for help were falling short at such a desperate time. But Leo was with you, and his bunny friend, and I can think of no better company at such a time.
  Bless you and Jessica. Binky free, Leo! ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))
- 01/07/2010 at 3:33 PM
  jerseygirl
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  I came to check this thread 1st thing and am so saddened to hear this. My condolences to you and your husband. We’re here for you. Leo leaving for the bridge in the presence of you and his mate would have been a comfort to him. Binky Free Leo!
  
  eta: to adjust the subject line, go to edit in the 1st post of the thread.
- 01/07/2010 at 3:42 PM
  KytKattin
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  I am so sorry for your loss. It is so hard to say goodbye. It seems like Jessica knows that Leo is no longer there, though maybe provide her with a stuffed toy that smells like him for the coming weeks when she may forget and look for him.
- 01/07/2010 at 4:08 PM
  angelicvampyre
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  Huge hugs i have had a beloved pet die in my arms and the only comfort that I can give you is that in Leos last moment he knew you where there for him. Binky Free leo!
- 01/07/2010 at 5:09 PM
  Cassi&Charlie
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  I’m so sorry that this happened, but at least you and Jess were there for him right at the end. I know it’s a tiny comfort but if I had the chance to pass away in hospital, or at home with my loved ones, I’d chose home everytime.
  Gosh, I’m just so sorry for you. Binky free Leo. *Hugs*
- 01/07/2010 at 5:55 PM
  MooBunnay
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  I am so sorry to hear about Leo. I hope you can be comforted by the fact that you gave Leo a fantastic home, and he passed away in the most peaceful way possible. He was such a lucky bunny to have you as a bunny mom. I know this must be a hard time for you, I’m so sorry for what you are going through, me and my husband have you in our thoughts and prayers.
- 01/08/2010 at 9:52 AM
  skunklionshow
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  Thank you so much for your kind words. I called DH immediately after it happened and unfortunately he had to stay at work. When he came home he just broke down in my arms and went to hold Jessica. I am going to have him read everyone’s kind words tonight when he gets home from work. Jessica & Leo wer both acquired after Tom & I got married, so these were really his frist 2 pets. Thank you all.
- 01/08/2010 at 11:56 AM
  ScooterandAnnette
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  Oh that must be so incredibly difficult for both of you! When I read through this I immediately thought about both Keiran and Reno, but more Reno since we went through the same thing with having her die in our arms while we were trying to find an emergency vet to take her to. The only real pet Scooter had growing up was a budgie so the bunnies were his first real experience with pets as welll. Our sympathies and healing vibes to both of you and to Jessica.
  – Annette
- 01/08/2010 at 12:06 PM
  Kokaneeandkahlua
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  I’m so sorry for your loss
  
  *BIG HUGS* for you and hubby and *Nose rubs* for Jessica.
  
  How shocking I’m so sorry this happened. He knew he was so very loved and being there for his passing is a special thing. My Kokanee is in mom’s garden too-I think that’s a lovely place for them *HUGS*
  
  *Binky Free Leo*
- 01/09/2010 at 9:14 PM
  bunnytowne
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  How sad. So sorry it happened this way. I am wondering even if he got into the vet he may have passed anyways. I am sad that the vet office didn’t contact the vet to come in a little early for your sweet dear bunny.
  
  The good thing is you were able to be there for him tho there is no real good in losing your baby. I know you are heartbroken right now. Perhaps lighting a candle in his memory would help you grieve and loving the bun that is left behind. She needs you
- 01/10/2010 at 1:58 PM
  Battie
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  (((((hugs))))) to you and your family.
- 01/11/2010 at 1:53 PM
  Denise12
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  I’m so sorry, i have tears in my eyes. Much love.
- 01/11/2010 at 10:01 PM
  Hedi
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  Im like Mimz, everytime I hear about one of our bunnies passing I cry. I am so sorry you had to let one of your babies go this morning. I think being in your arms was comforting and made passing a little easier for Leo.
  
  My friend recently lost one of her buns and put him in her garden. We have had a ton of snow lately. She goes to his grave daily and everyday there has been several bunny footprints in the snow across his grave. She said she felt as if her bun was being visited by the local wild buns.
- 01/19/2010 at 3:48 PM
  skunklionshow
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  Unfortunately, yesterday morning we had to put our cat (Max) to sleep. He was diagnosed w/ intestinal cancer. It was a terminal diagnosis, but we were hoping w/ some interventions he could have another month or two in him. We took the advice of someone on binky by giving him special day on Sunday. DH bought him a new bed. He munched on Pounces, fish flakes, catnip, and whatever people food he wanted. He LOVED yogurt! We stayed with him while he passed. The techs helped us pack him up. Max was almost 15 yrs old. He was my first pet as an adult….
  
  We buried Max and Leo together in DH’s grandpa’s backyard. I always joked that my Max was like a Lion and well since Leo was a lionhead, we thought it was very fitting to bury our 2 little lions together. We planted a rose bush on top of them. I’d like to add a Buddha at some point, b/c when Max used to sit on his butt and look like a Buddha w/ his big happy belly. Max was the Lion in my username….I just needed to share our additional loss, I’m just feeling so sad.
- 01/19/2010 at 4:09 PM
  MirBear
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  I can only imagine how you feel… what a way to start your new year.. 2 furbabies in 1 month may they rest in peace… :'( Gosh Hugs to you all!! you need them… *Binky free forever leo*(and Max)
  
  my twin kitty sisters are buried in my grandma’s garden, also with a rose bush…
  black sabbath 1987-2008 (21 when put to sleep) and black magic 1987-2001 (14 when put to sleep) they were 8 years older then me and both my sisters, and all my cousins grew up with them..
- 01/19/2010 at 5:08 PM
  mrmac
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  I am so sorry about Max! You have been going through alot recently. (((HUGS)))
- 01/19/2010 at 6:26 PM
  MooBunnay
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  I’m so sorry that you have to deal with two losses at this time, I know that must be really hard for you. Just try to remember what a fantastic home you gave your pets and how loved they were. I don’t think a pet could ask for better parents than you and your husband.
- 01/19/2010 at 9:46 PM
  Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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  Oh I am so sorry this happened My eyes are filled with tears and I will be showing Chubs and Comet extra affection tonight…my thoughts are with you!
- 01/19/2010 at 9:46 PM
  Monkeybun
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  Oh no, this just isn’t a good start to the year is it *hugs from me and the buns*
- 01/19/2010 at 10:29 PM
  MimzMum
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  Oh sweetie, that is such sad news! *tears up* I am so sorry! But I have to smile at your Buddha reference…good grief…how many cats have I had in my life who could fit that description? ^_^
  
  I’ll keep you all in my prayers, dear. And I’ll send a big comfort hug for you as well! (((((((((((((((((((((((skunklionshow))))))))))))))))))))
- 01/19/2010 at 11:11 PM
  BinkyBunny
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  I am so sorry for my delayed response! How have I missed responding to this?! I am just so sorry for both losses. So hard.
  
  This has been a rough start this year.
  
  What a wonderful life these animals have had with you and I hope as the pain lessens, the good memories of the great life they had with you will comfort you.
  
  BIG HUGS TO YOU!
- 01/21/2010 at 7:52 AM
  Kokaneeandkahlua
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  I’m so sorry-another loss *HUGS*
  
  That special day sounds so wonderful And I love that your two lions are together -that’s very fitting
- 01/21/2010 at 7:56 AM
  Sarita
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  I’m so sorry about Max. Hugs to you.
- 01/22/2010 at 1:25 AM
  Lintini
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  I am really sorry for your losses. I really hope things turn out for the best for you and my thoughts are with you. *hugs*
- 01/22/2010 at 1:40 AM
  KatnipCrzy
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  I am so sorry…and I know how hard it is to be without your significant other at a time like that. I had to deal with Penny’s death alone until hubby could get out of work- and it makes it really hard- even harder it seems not to have your support system right there when you need them.
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