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› FORUM › HOUSE RABBIT Q & A › no choice in vets..(update! complications with the neuter)
when i first got mj i brought him to the vet to get him checked out and get his mucusy eye looked at. the vet seemed very comfortable with him and handled him well. stupidly (mostly because i just hadn’t done enough reading and didn’t think of it at the time) i didn’t ask her about the neutering process while i was there. we went over it briefly, but mostly just in the “we need to wait till he’s older” sort of way.
well he’s about 8-9 months old now and has been acting very hormonal lately, so i’m pretty sure he’s ready for the neuter. i called today to set up the appointment and get prices on it ($110! yikes!) and the secretary told me to take up food and water the night before, just like a cat or dog.
immediately a red flag went up and i’m rather concerned. the same secretary put me on hold for 8 straight minutes, so i’m thinking perhaps she’s just not too good at her job and possibly doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
i live in a small town in northern louisiana that’s about 350 miles from any of the house rabbit society approved vets. i’m an hour away from shreveport, which is a bit bigger and would possibly have a better vet, but i’m just really uncomfortable having to go more than 15 minutes away to the vet in case of complications or anything. this was the only vet in town that sees rabbits so i don’t feel like i have much of a choice.
so my question is this: am i getting overly concerned from a comment made by the secretary or is this really a big deal?
i think that the morning of the surgery i will request to speak with the vet first and ask all the HRS recommended questions and if things still seem shakey i’ll politely take my bun somewhere else.
i’m really hoping the vet is resassuring and can answer all my questions. if she doesn’t, i have no idea how i’m going to get him neutered. the only option i would have would be to wait unitl this summer when i’m out of school and go stay with family in south louisiana where there are better vets and i’d have to build him a temporary cage so he would feel comfortable in his recovery. uggggggghhh..
has anybody had a situation like this before?
If they don’t do alot of rabbits the receptionist will tend to use the standard line so I would go ahead and wait and speak to the vet instead of letting that be an indicator of the vet’s knowledge or competency since he/she will be doing the surgery.
And the $110 is actually an extremely reasonable price if you decide to let this vet do the neuter.
thanks for the reassurance! good to know that’s a good price. i have to admit, i don’t have a large frame-of-reference as mj is my first bun and i’ve only been a bunny slave for about 6 months. i won’t make any judgments til i talk to the vet i guess. =)
When I had one of my rabbits neutered the secretary told me the same thing. I said “but aren’t you not supposed to fast rabbits before surgery?” and she went to check with the vet and came back and told me that I was right.
I’d definetly talk to the vet first though. You want to make sure your comfortable with the vet before she performs surgery on your bun.
yup i’ve been told the same thing
i would wait to talk to the vet about it before you judge them too harshly ![]()
Yes, the secretary at my vet told me te same thing too. But the vet was brilliant. So I wouldnt worry too much. Talk to the vet first ![]()
110$ is a really good price
Just ask the secretary to double check on the food though-you can let her know that your pretty sure you were told to feed right up to and after surgery and want to be sure that’s what to do
That way you aren’t saying “I know your wrong” and get her to double check.
If the vet says withhold food-perhaps tell him, as nicely as possible…”Rabbits don’t aspirate so with holding food is pointless, and given their digestive system needing continous food, I would feel more comfortable not doing so” and see if he’s agreeable ![]()
thanks everybody for your responses!
i’m feeling a lot better about the whole thing. i think i just panicked a bit, more-so at the thought of my baby having surgery than a doubt in the vet’s ability. my sister was a vet tech for years and she described the process to me in detail and that made me feel a lot better. it’s really quite simple, and thankfully neuters are so much less-invasive than spays, so i’m really quite lucky.
i’m also glad to hear 110 is cheap! as a poor college student anything over 5 bucks is a lot of money.
i’d pay plenty more if necessary. anything for my sweet bun. =)
$110 for a neuter is an amazing price. It’s difficult when there are few choices of vets in an area, and you sometimes will need to put up with a slightly less-than-competent vet, simply b/c there is NO ONE ELSE available. Chances are the receptionist was mistaken, but even if that’s what the vet recommends (and some vets still thinks fasting is necessary!), that does not mean you have to follow those guidelines. You can still offer food and have the vet perform the neuter.
If you want to ask more questions first, please schedule a time to speak with the vet BEFORE the day of the appointment, either over the phone or by going there in person. This way if you are not comfortable and you want to cancel, the office has advanced warning. I believe consideration of the vet’s time is important, even if he/she is not the vet for you.
My first bunny story ended in tragedy. I too live in a remote are of upstate NY. We took our bun in to the vet (made prior calls to make sure they were knowledgable with rabbits) and the surgery depending on the vets here were anywhere from 70$ to 140$!!! We took him in and were suppose to pick him up in late afternoon. the surgery went well, however, during the recovery process he somehow snapped his back. He became paralyzed from the back end down. After a day of deliberation we had to have him put down. (we already looked at route and had set up an orgainization to help with the paralysis, however, due to the break, He really needed to be put down. he was 7 months. It was MORe than heart breaking. I wrote a letter to this facility and thank goodness the owner actually called me and we had a long talk. They are changing their methods to help keep buns safer. They said sometimes they wish they were not domesticated pets since they are so unpredictable and just holding them can become a risk. With that being said, they are now changing how they do things. 1) it is a simple procedure, so they are going to have the owner stay with the rabbit until the procedure is over and the owner will be the one holding the bun upon waking up. The owners will be able to take the bun home right then and there. I think I feel better with this as well. I have a new baby named willie (profile pic) and he is now4 months. I will be contacting the vet prior to his turning 6 months and go over the procedure again and really working WITH them. It was easy for me to judge, as it is for everyone. I feel that if the vets are willing to work with you and learn, then they deserve our attention and support.
Good luck on your surgery, I am sure it will go fine! I will post after my second surgery becomes complete and I am expecting positive results!
Thank you for your story Bren. I’m glad that your tragedy turned into something good…I think there are always lessons to be learned. Still so sorry for the sad loss of your first bunny.
Before Dr. Harvey came on board with the VCA hospital near me, they didn’t know what they were doing either. My first rabbit had blood in her urine. They gave her 3 different antibiotic treatments in two days (because they kept prescribing the wrong ones) and was about to give me a fourth before she passed on. They then wanted to charge me another $100 for a necropsy to find out why she died. I told them I knew why – incompetence.
I was shocked when I realized a decade later it was the same hospital (as they had moved and really cleaned up their act). I only found out because on my second visit with my new bun they asked if it was Laser, my first rabbit.
I’m sorry for your loss, Bren. It’s heart-breaking, but the truth is, this could have happened regardless of what the circumstances were or who was with him. It is true that bunnies are such fragile creatures (even tho they don’t always seem that way when they’re tearing around your house!) I think Willie is gorgeous. Please keep us updated on how everything goes with him.
Situations like this are also a big factor in my personal belief that adoption through (reputable!) shelters is best. When you adopt a rabbit who has already been altered, there is one less thing to go wrong or cause you to worry.
thanks guys! Actually the bun was my daughter’s who is 18. But, nonetheless, it was very difficult. I agree it is good that something positive came out of it. We shall see! Willie is definately a trip! This is our first year having rabbits and I have to say I do not think I will ever be without one again, I have absolutely fallen in love with them!
They definitely cast a spell on you! After my first bun passed (he was young as well, only a couple years old) we didn’t get another bun for a couple years. We had a young child, I returned to school, it was just not the right time. When we did finally decide to get another bun, it was probably about another 6 months before we were entirely ready. We spent time contacting local rescues, preparing the house, we really wanted to make the right decision. But the second time around of “bunny ownership” has really cemented my love of buns. We adopted a mate for our bun a year later… and I’ve been living in “bunny universe” ever since.
Bren: thank you for your story. I think that’s awesome that the practice changed it’s policies and sought ways to improve. I think that shows that they really do care about your pet.
Car: Your bunny is sooooo cute! Is that a lionhead lop? OMG I could eat him up. I ditto talking to the vet prior to the appt. My vets are always willing to get on the phone w/ me and answer my questions. Sometimes the receptionists really don’t know much or are less experienced animal people. One of our receptionists moved into a vet assistant position. When I picked up Chewie after her spay, her home instructions were to watch for vomiting. I told her that they don’t vomit. I thought it was kinda cute b/c she admitted that she’s still learning about the bunny differences. Everyone has to learn at some point….so I don’t mind if people acknowledge that they didn’t know something, that’s how we all learn.
hey guys,
i took your advice and drove over and talked to the vet yesterday. i feel SOOO much better. she walked me through the whole process and assured me everything would be fine. also, she said i was right that i didn’t have to remove food and water, it’s just what they tell the receptionist to say to everyone. i’m relieved and i have full confidence everything will be a-okay.
so everything is looking pretty good. i scheduled the appointment for the 14th of december (monday). hopefully i don’t have too many more arm humping incidents between now and then.. lol
skunk: he is indeed a lionhead lop! he’s so full of personality and is so adventurous. his new thing is that he likes to hop up and sit on my shoulder when i’m on the couch. he’s been very frisky and playful, due to either his hormones surging or perhaps the cooler weather. i’m gonna post some more recent pics of him soon. haven’t posted any since after i first got him.
That’s sounds great. I’m so glad you talked to the vet. I’m sure that has helped put your mind at ease.
Note: You may have some arm lovin’ going on even after surgery. –it takes about a month or so for the hormones to die down, but that after that he should be the perfect gentleman. ![]()
BB, I don’t think there is such thing as a “Perfect Gentleman” ![]()
I agree Monkey, that lil’ lop lion looks like TROUBLE! ![]()
Awesome!!
Posted By Monkeybun on 12/06/2009 12:53 AM
BB, I don’t think there is such thing as a “Perfect Gentleman”
Shhhhh! Don’t shatter the dream.
hey guys!
you are so right that he’s nothin but trouble. he’s the most mischevious ball of fur i’ve ever seen. i love him to death.
so i dropped mj off at the vet’s this morning. i seriously had tears in my eyes as i drove away. it was pitiful.
in the middle of class i got this awful feeling like something was wrong and sure enough, right at that moment the vet called and told me that he has a recessed testicle, meaning it’s actually in his abdomen and she’d have to make an incision and retrieve it. it’s really a common thing and i know it’s not that big of a deal, but i was just so upset because it meant he’d have stitches and heavier medication and is more prone to an infection. =(
however, i know that this really isn’t any different from a spay, so i’m really not afraid. i’m just a worry wort.
i just got home from my last class and i’ve got an hour til i can go get him. my house is so horribly lonely without a bunny in it! =(
i’ll let you guys know what the vet says when i get there and i’ll be sure and take pictures of my groggy little lion.
he’s home!!!!!!!
my poor little baby. his incision is so big compared to his little tummy. he’s currently sitting in his litter box trying to shoot lasers out of his eyes in order to kill me, i think.
i talked with the vet and she stitched him up well and glued him so hopefully he won’t rip his stitches. i’ve blocked off the jump to the upper levels of his cage so he’s only on the bottom floor. when i first let him out i didn’t block it off because i thought he’d go straight to the corner, but i guess he was trying to go where he was used to being and tried to jump on the second level. he did so pretty successfully but when he got to the the third jump he kinda slipped and just slid off. i felt so guilty for not blocking it off in the first place. =\ i don’t think he hurt himself at all, but he just looked so pitiful not being able to jump.
i got him to eat a little bit of a collard green leaf, so at least he’s interested in food.
they gave him some pain medication so hopefully he’ll be okay. she said if he needed more i could bring him back in. i’m really not sure if i could tell if he were in pain or not. then again, i’ve never seen him in pain til now. i suppose if he remains lethargic after a few days or is disinterested in food i’ll take him back. i think he’ll be fine, though. he’s a little trooper.
also, has anybody’s bun ever had reactions to the pain meds? he seems to be scratching his ears a lot since he’s been home. i know i itch whenever i have pain medication, i wonder if it’s the same for him?
Vibes to your baby. I’m not sure about the scratching due to pain meds – I’ve never had this problem with my rabbits on pain meds.
he’s stopped scratching now. i suppose his ear just really itched. lol.. right now he’s still hanging out in his litter box, refusing to acknowledge anythings existence unless it’s fresh greens being hand-fed to him. he has his back to me now. ![]()
Aw MJ! (((Vibes))) he heals soon.
Poor little dude! (((((Vibes!!))))
When Mimzy was neutered, I was shocked to see the size of his incisions, mostly because until we’d taken him to the vet for his appointment, we thought he was a girl, and also because…who knew the excised items were SO big on a such little bunny?!
(((((((((((many good healing vibes for MJ!)))))))))))
How warm and dry is your house, btw? That may be why MJ’s ears are itching. I know that’s part of Mimzy’s problem right now. I don’t think we have more than 25% humidity in the house and the static is terrible!
mimz – warm and dry definitely isn’t our problem at the moment. louisiana winters consist of 40 degree rain every other day. we had probably 90% humidity yesterday.. could’ve been more, not sure. and it stays between 67-69 degrees in my house. i think he just had an itch on his ear and maybe couldn’t get his leg up enough to scratch it. i helped him out and rubbed his ears and he seemed fine. it just got me curious on whether or not animals got itchy from pain meds like humans do sometimes.
he’s doing really well today! i think i’m gonna post some pics of him in the lounge because i haven’t posted any recently.
thank you all so much for the vibes!! he’s doing really well this morning! he’s eating, pooping, tearing up boxes, and generally being himself. =)
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