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Rumball isn’t well. These things do always seem to happen on a weekend. I’ve had him now for 5 months and haven’t experienced any GI issues with him before so I’m a bit nervous. Plus my regular vet is closed and so we’re booked in at another clinic I’ve never been to before. Hope they can help. Argh! I’d forgotten that feeling you get when they’re not well.
Oh dear! ((((((sending extra strength healing vibes for Rumballo!)))))))))))) I know, it’s always when the vet isn’t open that a crisis occurs. I suer hope he’ll be okay!
What kind of symptoms was he displaying, if any? They hide this stuff a little TOO well. ![]()
Thanks MM. He’s off his food, hiding, repositioning a bit, what I think is teeth grinding occasionally…I’ve given simethe and tummy rubs a few times. He also acted really odd earlier this morning which I think was due to pain. ![]()
That sounds about right.
How long before he can see the vet you booked him with?
I wish I had more advice, but I think you’re doing all you can at the moment. Has he stopped eating altogether or is he nibbling at stuff? Hear any gurglies in the tummy area? When did he last poop?
Bunnies always seem to know when it is a holiday or weekend. I guess they would not want to make it too easy on their devoted slaves.
Healing Vibes for Rumball- and keep us updated!
I think the reason things seem to happen on the weekend is that since we’re not at work/school and we’re spending more time with them we notice more things. Or maybe it’s because they sense we’re more relaxed so they relax too. Anyways, I hope that Rumball feels better soon! (((((vibes)))))
Little under an hour before we see vet. Rumballs normally a champ with hay eating. He ate a few strands early this morn but nothing else. I don’t think he has pooped – really not sure… I’m reluctant to try give him fluids or force feed until we’ve been to vet. I’m also wondering about possible urinanry issues or teeth. Many things going thru mind of course. Hope to have answers soon. For the last hour he’s been behind chair in reasonable loaf position, not hunched but he is just not right. I keep thinking I’m over reacting then I talk myself round. Better he’s seen now than not.
Yeah, if he’s secluding himself he needs to be seen. Especially if he’s more of a roundabout chap.
I’ll keep you two in my prayers. And yes, be careful with the tummy rubs too, as sometimes a blockage can be made worse if you manipulate the belly too much. If it seems to make him feel better, by all means do, but I know bunny abdomens can be a touchy place to mess with.
Poor thing. And how’s Jersey taking this? Does she seem to want to be near him at all? Is he also avoiding her?
Oh, Jersey, I’m so sorry. It’s just such an unsettling feeling. I know you are at the vets right now as I post this and I hope everything is going well.
Hugs to you and healing vibes to Rumbles.
Thanks for the vibes everyone. WE needed them – I know I did! Things seem to be improving…Rumball came out the carrier after trip to vet and ate a little hay and some apple. He’s also had a few pellets tonight and used the litter box (I’m 90% sure). He’s not good but I’m happy to see him eating something and moving about a little. My fear was/is that even if tummy upset wasn’t main cause, his lack of eating may lead to gut slow down anyway. I think the car trip itself may have helped move things along even though they both disliked it.
The vet seemed ok. He took temp(norm), checked ears, molars and palpitated gut(no hardness). Only thing I was little wary of was his suggestion of giving pineapple juice…though he was saying it for the fibre content not the bromelin enzyme.
So Rumball got injection of baytril and oral baytril to take home & probiotic sachets. He suspects possible urinary tract infection. Even bladder stones, and sent me home with urine sample container in case. They are going to get hold of criticare from other clinic too. The vet brought that up so that made me feel more confident that they knew something about rabbits. It seemed VERY dog/cat orientated place. Anyhow, I don’t think I’ll be needing to force feed – thank goodness.
It’s really hard to tell what exactly is the issue but UTI is high on suspect list just because of the oddness of his behaviour. I always suspect gas when they let me massage the tummy as they wouldn’t normally. Rumball allowed it and he’s normally off running whenever my hands approach unless I’m on lying on the floor to pet him. This morning he lay down in the litter box and I picked him with no trouble. He also flopped onto his side several times trying elevate his head onto the hearth. He’d stay for a second, get up and do it again. Really odd. He’s eyes were round and he was fretting. I think it was pain…..? I remember Jersey behaving really odd one time (with balance) and she went on baytril and came good really fast. I’m hoping same for him.
I have some questions…..If he does have UTI or bladder stones, would my massaging his gut have aggravated things? Also, what makes them suspectible to UTI’s? Is there things I can do to prevent these infections.
Oh and MimzMum, Jersey is fine. Let’s just say she wouldn’t make a good nurse. Actually, at the moment if she goes to Rumball he starts grooming her as usual. She’s not giving him any special attention. It’s all good though, she’s not punishing me for having taken her in the car. Strangely, she was the one I considered taking to the vet Friday afternoon. She jumped out my arms and was favoring a paw but it was temporary. I felt so bad!
Hi, Jersey, just catching up on this now. So sorry the little guy isn’t feeling well. I’m glad he’s been seen and is on medication. I can’t answer your questions about UTIs, but expect Sarita or Katnip will jump in with some medical info. for you soon. Meanwhile, let us know if you see an improvement. It must be pretty hard to capture urine samples! I assume she won’t accept freshly soaked litter.
{{{{{{{{{{{{Healing vibes, Rumball}}}}}}}}}}}}
Just had a thought. They were outside in the playhouse on the grass last week, right? Maybe he got a little bug bite or sat in something that started the infection. (or ate something that didn’t agree with him.)
Poor Rumball! What makes the vet suspect it is a UTI? Have you noticed any odd urinating behaviors – peeing outside the box, straining, or acting like he wants to urinate and using the litter box more often but no pee – sometimes their uretha is inflamed and they have a sensation of wanting to urinate and nothing coming out.
Yeah, you have to stop the thinking that it’s gas all the time – it just always isn’t and I think that’s the kind of in the box thinking that keeps you from noticing some other subtle changes and it turns out to be something else – not sure why gas is always the first inclination :~) but it seems to be. As for the tummy massage – I don’t think it will necessarily hurt but it’s not going to help and if it’s not gas, there’s no reason to continue it as it will just stress him out more.
I highly recommend that you do the urinalysis and if the vet suspects stones or sludge even you will most likely want to do an x-ray. You may be able to figure out the sludge without an x-ray but not the stone.
Did the vet do any sub-q fluids? Sometimes with an UTI it’s a good idea to try to dilute the urine and to get them urinating too.
What about pain meds? I would recommend this to help take some of the edge off – also metacam is an anti-inflammatory.
Yes, he did pee (though only a little) in the corner where he’d spent most the day and sat in it. This was why vet suspected UTI. I’m a little wary though that I got standard treatment from non-rabbit vet though. Baytril and pineapple juice. He did check other things thoroughly though so I’m in two minds as usual. I think I’ll feel more comfortable talking with my own vet where to go from here.
He’s back to normal this morning. Actually he’s being humpy toward Jersey today. I don’t know if it’s dominance or not but it indicates his energy level is good.
I wouldn’t think the one injection of an antibiotic would have brought on this recovery. I’m also reluctant to give the oral baytril in case it upsets his appetite but I’ll be a good girl and see it thru. I do need to be more vigilant and watch for signs regarding bladder issues.
I’m a little insulted on Rumballs behalf I must say. The vet rated his 4 out 5 for body condition - 5 being obese. I think he’s lost weight and looking so much better!
LOL – I have that all the time with my rabbits Jerseygirl – mine usually rate that way too.
Do not be afraid to give him the baytril – sometimes the benefits outweigh the risks and you don’t know if it will upset his stomach either – maybe it won’t.
I understand about the pineapple juice – there’s no benefit in this – it may hydrate him though.
I guess at this point, do what this vet says and then see your more rabbit knowledgeable vet for a follow up. Keep us updated.
Glad to hear that Rumball is feeling better!
If your vet suspects urinary issues they might recommend taking an x-ray- stones will show up on an x-ray. Or an ultrasound- that will show if the bladder wall is thickened (inflammation can cause that) and I know that in dogs and cats- grit may be able to be detected- I am not sure if bladder slude in rabbits shows on an ultrasound though.
Some things that can cause bladder infections- holding urine for too long (more likely in a dog with an owner that works long hours than a rabbit), overweight and the pet not able to groom and keep clean “back there”, and overweight could cause a little urine to remain in urinary tract which is an invitation for bacteria, and some pets can have anatomy that leads to urine troubles- but again I would think this would be more common in a dog than a rabbit. And sometimes there is no reason- they just get a bladder infection.
He’s not obese, he’s pleasingly plump. ![]()
Hey Jerz, just checking in. How is Rumballo today?
Thanks – he seems good still. Fighting me on having the meds but if he can fight, it’s means he’s healthy right? I have found a few pee puddles and drips but I don’t know exactly who is responsible. Actually, this and mainly poop in the bunny area has been happening for ages but I had put it down to behaviour and post bonding territory stuff. Or that they both mark the space against me. Now I’m being more vigilant to see if it’s Rumballo with bladder issues.
Bunnies who drink less water can also be more susceptible to bladder issues/stones. Before my discovery of Jack’s bladder stone, I always thought he never drank enough water, but I figured since he had so many greens that that was why, but he still drank such a little amount of water than any of my other bunnies.
What are Rumball’s drinking habits? (sounds like I’m asking if he’s alcoholic…LOL)
Helloworld!!
Actually, he doesn’t drink alot. Neither really do but in the evenings in the living room, I see Jers go to drink a few times. Rumball I see drinking less. And he eats more hay so I would have thought he’d drink more. Also he’s not as super keen on the veggies like Jersey. He eats them, just over longer time – he eats more now though. Outdoors he would always chew on the driest stuff but I have noticed him munching on fresher grass lately.
Good point though BB – I’ll have to observe this more closely also. I have the water in a crock and this is what he had in his former home. I wonder if adding a sipper bottle would encourage him? Of course, the UTI was a guess by the vet not actually confirmed but both them increasing thier water intake can’t hurt.
Your poor bunny JG. Vibes for good health for you and your buns. too. Keep us posted please.
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