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FORUM DIET & CARE Sir Thumps a lot is shedding like mad!

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    • SirThumpsey
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        And it’s driving me mad!

        I’ve looked over some of the older posts about shedding. I know that if he actually ate his hay, it would be a lot better. I brushed him this morning before work and collected so much hair! (I’m thinking about spinning and knitting it so I always have a little piece of him with me)

        I called my vet to ask about it and they didn’t say anything about hay, just put me on hold. I am now looking for a different vet. They don’t seem to know much about rabbits. I’ve called them with questions before (ones that I thought all exotic vets should know the answer to) and they failed miserably.

        I read on one of the earlier posts that papaya and pineapple helps keep things moving. I had called another vet and she said there was something that they give to cats to help with hairballs that could be given to rabbits. I don’t know if it is safe and I unfortunatly wasn’t given the product name.

        I’m thinking that leafy greens might help so I’m heading to the store after work.

        I have vowed to brush him twice a day (he loves it!) and try to give him foods that will help his belly.

        I just want to make sure that I am doing everything that I can to help him through this. I just hope that he is only shedding his undercoat and not completely blowing his coat. (But then again, I’d have enough fur to make yarn in no time!)

         


      • RabbitPam
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          Sounds like you’re handling it well. Keep brushing because it helps him and it keeps him from swallowing too much.

          The product they meant was Petromalt or Laxatone. Both are still available, and about a half an inch squeezed out of the tube is the dose for bunnies. Many have recently stated that they no longer give it to bunnies, but I must confess that I still give a little, just the one dose, to Sammy to help move along her system if there’s probably a little hair in her. It tastes good to them, and I find it works well. I just never give more than one bit on my finger, so don’t worry that it won’t be safe. Just an older remedy. Hay will always be best for keeping the system moving as it should.


        • FluffyBunny
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            My bunny’s had a shed like this before. Keep brushing him, that will help the most. You can also feed papaya tablets, they do help things move along a bit and make a nice healthy treat for bunnies to have. As for making him eat more hay, have you tried different types, like orchard?

            I keep my bunny’s shed fur in a plastic bag…I have no idea what to do with it, but maybe someday I’ll be glad I have it.


          • Monkeybun
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              My mom has a littel pouch of her cat Jack’s fur in her desk. jack was born in her closet when I was 8, and lived a good long 15 years.. mom likes to take out the pouch and stroke the fur once in awhile when she’s feeling down, brings back good memories of good old Jack. Maybe thats why you’re keepign the fur, Fluffy

              i know I’m going to keep Monkey’s.


            • SirThumpsey
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                Rabbit Pam- that might be it, not sure. When I take Halo to get her check up for her spay, I’m going to request some of that stuff.

                Fluffy Bunny- I have tried Bermuda grass (which may have been the higher calorie one, don’t remember) and I usually buy big bags of Timothy Hay from the pet store. I have been meaning to get a bale of hay because it is so much cheaper but the one place I know that sells it is quite a drive away. I don’t believe that the pet store sells Orchard but I will have to double check. I recently bought a large bag so I shouldn’t need more for awhile. Halo is very good about eating her hay. I’ve had to move the bag because she will rip holes in it even if she has a cage full of hay. She’s very cute.

                Papaya tablets certainly sounds like a good idea. Any idea where I might be able to find them?

                On an somewhat unrelated note, she actually ripped a hole in the hamster food bag and started eating the corn out of it. *sigh*

                MonkeyBun- That is a really cute idea. I wished I had thought of that. Bunnie was shedding alot before she passed and I had just thrown all the fuzz balls away. I have been keeping Sir Thumps fur in a baggie but not quite for that exact purpose. It’s simular though. I’m going to spin the fur into yarn and then knit a scarf out of it. Then if I start missing him when I’m up at school I can pet my scarf. It’s not quite the same (because it might not be as soft) but it would probably help a little bit.

                Alot of my friends are big into crafts like I am and have recently began spinning wool into yarn. I had planned to adopt an Angora rabbit later down the line for the purpose of making yarn. They shave them for their wool like fur and do that pretty often. I just haven’t figured out how I would shave a rabbit. Guess I don’t really need an angora for it, but I still think they are adorable. Especially the ones with the ears that curve a little bit at the top.

                I’m such a sucker for rabbits.

                Then again, I guess we all are.

                Crazy rabbit ladies (and gentleman) UNITE!


              • Barbie
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                  Good luck with all the shedding! Brushing and papaya tablets are good. I honestly don’t know where you’d find papaya tablets… I’ve been looking for them too! I think using your buns’ fur for knitting is great! I’ll have to try that – I’ll have to learn how to spin yarn first! As for shaving an angora… veeeerrry carefully! I don’t have any experience with angoras, but if you do get an angora and try to shave him, I’d suggest go slowly and get him used to noise of the clippers first (use clippers like the kind used to cut men’s hair or dog fur, not a razor, obviously) and then I’d try to do it in short sessions – even if having a half shaved bun for a few days might look funny! I think angoras are adorable, and yeah, the curvy tipped ears are great, like Flippersmom’s bun =)


                • MooBunnay
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                    It sounds like you are doing everything that you can. Keeping your bun eating is really the most important part since you want to keep things moving along, and since he’s not so much of a hay eater, some leafy greens are good to at least keep the digestive system moving. I wonder if your bun will like the fresh baled hay any better – let us know what he thinks when you get it. Even if it is a drive away, a bale will last you quite awhile. Just make sure when they give you the bale that you really look it over and make sure there aren’t any moldy or gross looking spots, because you don’t want to have to drive all the way back if the bale is no good.


                  • Furface
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                      Don’t they have papaya tablets in the store on this site? Yep in the treat section.

                      I get them at the heath food store – Swiss Herbal 30mg tabs
                      They also have triple strength ones but I thought that might be too strong for them. I usually give 1 or 2 per day & 3 in the heavy shed times.
                      Be careful with brands & doses though – A different health food store told me that they don’t carry The Swiss Herbal because people would have to take the whole bottle – so their brands were WAY WAY too strong for a bunny.
                      My vet told me about the Swiss Herbal & where to get them so they are a safe dosage.


                    • SirThumpsey
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                        Well I have heard that in general larger breeds of rabbits tend to be calmer. The only reason I hadn’t adopted an angora in the first place was (well I couldn’t find any) and I didn’t want to worry about matting. My dog’s fur matts so easily and I can only imagine how easy the angora’s would matt. I would definitly have to get him used to brushings.

                        I went to walmart yesterday with the intention of getting romaine lettuce, cilantro and maybe some basil but managed to forget to go into the food section. >.<

                        Oh Geeze! Furface, I didn’t even think to look on this site. I feel like an idiot. I think I might just order them from here because there are too many dosages and brands at a store, I wouldn’t know what to get. I wish I could bring a couple of you to the store in my pocket for reference. Man, I wish I got a phone with the internet on it!

                        At this point I am pretty sure that he is completely blowing his coat. There is a huge bald spot on his forehead between his eyes. It’s kind of cute. I always thought his head was supposed to shed last but maybe I am confused. I was grooming him last night (I’ve been brushing him about 5 times a day and every time the brush gets too full of fur) and I had started to see balding lines. His fur underneath is coming in black and the lines were right above his eye. It made him look like he had angry eyebrows. So I started picking at his forehead and it was coming out in huge clumps.

                        Ah, the joys of a shedding rabbit. He’s so cute with his little bald spot.


                      • Furface
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                          LOL
                          Male pattern balding bunny
                          ROFLMAO


                        • SirThumpsey
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                            Oh Furface! LMAO! I was just telling my sister that he had a receding hair line and needed some rogaine!
                            (She’s 14 and thought I was insane. She’s not far off..lol)
                            Then I told it to one of my friends and she almost peed herself.

                            You know how older men, their hair will start receding on the sides and eventually they may just have a little patch of hair on top.

                            That is what he looked like yesterday. Jeeze, I should have been taking pictures!

                            Now his forhead is completly bald. The rest of his coat is changing colors but not all completely falling out.

                            …If he’s completly blowing his coat, Isn’t his butt supposed to start balding? Only his head is balding…and the rest of him, only the undercoat (I think) Is coming out.

                            He is going to be one dark rabbit. I’ll have to post before and after pictures. 🙂


                          • SirThumpsey
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                              I am beginning to get a little worried about him. He seems not very interested in his pellets but when I put the romaine lettuce and hay in he practically attacked it. He has been eating his pellets and pooping but he doesn’t eat all of his pellets. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I’ve been giving him a lot more veggies. He’s probably less hungry and I’m overreacting.


                            • Furface
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                                Your probably over reacting. If he’s eating his hay & pooping, he sounds fine to me.
                                Also you said your giving him more veggies, it’s good that he prefers veggies over pellets.
                                Many people have trouble getting pellet addicts to eat their veggies.
                                I would say that the most important intake is hay & a good assortment of veggies.
                                I’m sure pellets are a good balanced vitamin source but a good assortment of fresh veggies & hay is fine, if not better.
                                My vet tells me free feed hay & veggies & limited pellets anyway so he may have spoke to your vet about his diet & just didn’t tell you about it. LOL


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                                  Jack has been going through the worst molt I have ever seen. I know it’s that time, but it really has been doing one major molt job! He had a follow-up vet appointment for his post bladder-stone surgery, and I asked the vet about this crazy molt. He’s molted before, but nothing like this. She said that rabbits who have been through something stressful (like in Jack’s case loss of Rucy, surgery and bonding with Vivian) that after things have settled down, they have a heavy molt. Basically a way to shed the hair that may have “stress” chemical traces. I wonder if that has something to do with being a prey animal, and any smell of stress could make them more vulnerable. Anyway, it’s an explosion molt to say the least and he looks like a sheep with all of the bumpy unevenness. The only thing that really helped Jack was for me to comb him. (he HATES to be combed), but with all the fur that was coming out, I’m not sure even as much as hay as he was eating would have been enough.

                                  I also have kept his fur this time round because there is so much of it and wondered about what could be done with it.


                                • SirThumpsey
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                                    That would make sense why he is shedding so much. He was really upset after Bunnie passed. He was very fond of her and would always give her kisses through the cage.

                                    Sir Thumps definitly looks wierd. Some parts are bald and others still are full of hair. It’s just so funny looking.

                                    Furface- You’re probably right. He stopped eating all of his parsley and cilantro. He’ll nibble at it but he really loves the romaine lettuce. It’s too bad they can’t just come out and tell us “Mommy, I don’t feel so good.” That probably would make me worry a wee bit less.

                                    I have this brush that they got for our dog that takes out the undercoat really well. The strange thing is my dog is part poodle and has no undercoat. Not to mention, really doesn’t like being brushed. We always end up having to shave him. Anyway, Sir Thumps does really well with this brush but I’ve noticed that it doesn’t take out the loose stuff on top. I usually start pulling a little and if it comes out easily then I keep going. I scoop it up with the brush and when I’m done brush the little furball once more.

                                    I’d hate to see how much I’d get off of Halo who is supposed to get about 14lbs.


                                  • SirThumpsey
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                                      So I was at the pet store to buy more food. They had a sale on the big 10lb bags of food I get. Buy one get one free! I was so excited. Anyway, I picked up one of the smaller bags of Orchard grass and gave some to Sir Thumps when I got home. He started nibbling right away. Halo really enjoys the Timothy Hay (good thing too because I have a huge bag of that) so I’ll just give her some of that and a little bit of the Orchard occasionally since it’s sweet.

                                      Sir Thumps has grown quite a bit in the last couple of months so he needs to fill out a bit. I figured that sweeter, higher calorie hay might be a little better for him for now. I’m going to take him to the vet to see if maybe there is a reason he’s thin. Oh and pick up some stuff for hairballs.

                                      I’ve gathered so much hay in the last week from his brushings and what falls into his cage, I have a hard time imagining if he is swallowing any. I’m surprised that he has shed to much thus far and he still has a way to go yet.

                                      Other than the brushings, lots of hay and greens and that hairball stuff, I don’t know that there is much else I can do. Hopefully it’s passing well. I have noticed a few string of pearls as I’ve heard them referred to. Is that a bad sign? Or is it good because it means he is atleast passing the hair?

                                      This is my first full blown rabbit shedding and I wanna make sure that his belly is alright.

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