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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Anti-social rabbit…what to do

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    • Karla
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        Hey all,

        Hope to get some feedback on this.

        I got a male aged 9 months (neutered 2 weeks ago). He is really sweet, but not particular social (probably from having spent the first 5 months of his life in a small shelter cage without any contact to humans or other bunnies) – and nothing at all like my childhood bunny that would sleep on my chest and just be all cuddly. He roams freely in the apartment and has two cardboard boxes instead of a cage - one as a toilet place, and the other as his sleeping place. But he is just so happy with these two cardboard boxes (he got them a month ago) that I rarely ever see him. He either sleeps inside the box or is busy rebuilding them (he is such an engineer – he pushed the two boxes together and chewed a big hole in each box so that he can run from one to the other).

        He is only active in the morning when I am getting ready to go to work and don’t have time for him and then again in the evening, when I have gone to bed. In the beginning he would at least come into the living room and jump up on the couch to see what we are doing. Now he barely leaves the bedroom where the boxes are.

        SO…should I just accept that I have an invisible bunny or can I do something to make him more social? I have had him for 4 months and until recently I would sit on the bedroom floor for 3 hours every day after work to entertain him. Now he honestly doesn’t give a damn and will just stay put in his box and sleep or decorate the whole day away.

        Also, I was thinking…I want him to get a friend. I have been meaning to find him an adult, but now I am thinking that maybe it should be a baby that I can hopefully socialise from the start. Would my chances of a cuddly rabbit be bigger this way? The adults at the shelter are all outdoor cage rabbits, so I wouldn’t count on them being social and happy to be pet.

        I really miss having a pet to cuddle, and I have to admit that I feel it is a bit of a mistake that I got a rabbit…at least when it comes to the part of having an animal on my lap to pet.  

         


      • bunnytowne
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          Rabbits aren’t normally cuddly.  IF  you get a 2nd one take this one bunny dating.  Bonding can take a lot of work. It is best to let them choose each other.  Then it won’t be so hard.

          You can still check out the shelter bunnies.  Some can be gentle and somewhat cuddly even if they are hutch rabbits. IF you get a baby you wont’ know it’s adult personality.

          also they may spend most of their time with each other instead.

          Perhaps you can try going to his boxes and petting him in there.  He may like that.

           


        • Karla
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            I have read that in order for a bunny to be perfectly litter trained, it is important to respect their houses as their territory – and I actually like the idea of this. So if he is inside one of the boxes, I don’t lift the lid or reach my hand inside. I just lie on the floor with my head pressed to the hole begging him to come out…well, which really doesn’t work

            Well, if you say that rabbits aren’t normally cuddly than maybe I’m just the one who got it all wrong based on one childhood bunny…he actually does like being petted though. Not exactly for hours, but for 5 minutes. But he was really much more social in the beginning. He would follow me when I went to the toilet, et.c. Now he just lives in those boxes. I don’t want to take them away from him since he is so attached to them, but I must admit that I am a bit unhappy about the situation.

            Some minutes ago I got the idea that maybe I should make myself and the rest of the apartment a bit more attractive by buying some toys for him – only to find that BinkyBunny doesn’t ship to my country. I just find it really hopeless right now.

            What about the rest of you – do you just have your rabbits as a “watch and enjoy” pet ?


          • Karla
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              Posted By bunnytowne on 06/16/2009 08:28 AM

              Rabbits aren’t normally cuddly.  IF  you get a 2nd one take this one bunny dating.  Bonding can take a lot of work. It is best to let them choose each other.  Then it won’t be so hard.

              You can still check out the shelter bunnies.  Some can be gentle and somewhat cuddly even if they are hutch rabbits. IF you get a baby you wont’ know it’s adult personality.

              also they may spend most of their time with each other instead.

              Perhaps you can try going to his boxes and petting him in there.  He may like that. 

              Oh, I forgot – how do I succesfully check if the shelter bunny is more social and somewhat cuddly? Any signs to look for? When I picked Karl, I just picked up each rabbit from each cage and went for the one that seemed less stressed about being held and petted. And that apparently wasn’t the best test  I mean, don’t get my wrong – I love that little black bunny. I would just prefer if he loved me back.


            • KatnipCrzy
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                It takes awhile to earn a bunnies trust and affection.  I would try using treats so the bunny assoicates you with positive things.  I use Craisins for my bunnies- I cut them into even smaller pieces and hand feed them.  For Schroeder at first I had to be closer to him to hand them to him- but I was able to lure him up onto the couch for visits while he is out by tossing Craisins to him- and getting him closer and closer until he figured out the Craisins were from me- now he hops up on my lap looking for more.


              • Karla
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                  That might be a good idea! In the beginning I did give him treats and tried to teach him to come when I called. I think that was actually at the time when he was most sociable. Don’t know why I stopped though. I should do it again.

                  Any other tips?


                • Sarita
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                    Well, I don’t mind just watching and enjoying my rabbits. I’m kind of the mind that some rabbits are more social than others and that they are what they are and as long as they are happy that’s the most important thing.

                    Maybe now that I think about it, I’m not much of a cuddly person so it could be that is why I’m fine if my rabbits don’t want to cuddle with me. I do have a free roaming rabbit that jumps on my bed and likes to cuddle with me (he does bite too though) and he likes to scratch on the bed. I do have to grab him and snuggle him next to me, it’s not his choice but I think he’s fine with it.

                    But the rabbits I have that are happy to be left alone, I just let them be happy that way – now I don’t know if they are happy obviously as this is probably not a rabbit emotion but they are content and healthy (at least they are eating) so I just accept them like that.


                  • Adalaide
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                      I’m gonna agree with the food idea. The raisins I bought are in a bag rather than a box and it makes a distinct sound when I pick it up. Freya knows what it sounds and looks like. If I’m holding that bag she’d follow me to the moon and back. Freya has always pretty much ignored us. The first week or two she would come up and smell us, make sure we were ok and th en go off and do whatever makes her happy. Eventually, like you, I got tired of spending an hour on the floor and zero of that time with Freya. We have discovered that she loves the couch and will hang out with us for a few minutes if we’re on it, longer if we have food she thinks she can get us to share. One night I wasn’t paying attention to the donut in my hand because something very interesting was on tv… Freya took advantage and discovered she likes krispy kreme as much as me. Maybe if you sit on the floor with a raisin he’ll cme sit on your lap for a few minutes. Then you can maybe more that to your favorite spot and he’ll come see you more often. I was kinda depressed for a few days about Freya not really loving me back, no cuddles and such, but I’ve discovered that she’s a joy just to have around and it’s enough for me to love her. (Of course the borrowed love I bribe from her with food doesn’t hurt!!)


                    • Sarita
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                        All my rabbits love treats too and react positively to treats but I think it’s for the treats, not me.


                      • Karla
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                          I just tried with the raisins and some lemon balm from the garden, and it worked wonders. At least I was interesting and he sat with his paws on my legs, which is a great success for me. I am so glad I asked for advice

                          I will try to do this trick every day again just as I did before. And then I am thinking maybe I should feed him his greens this way as well.

                          And then I guess, I need to accept he is not like a cat or a dog that crave my petting But I really must have been lucky with that childhood bunny then…

                          Do you think that since he is such an anti-social bunny that he will prefer to live in solitary and not have a bunny companion? Or might it just be the utterly boring human friendship he doesn’t care about.


                        • Sarita
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                            Well, I’m not sure that he’s really anti-social, he just might be shy or an introverted rabbit. Also he may react differently to another rabbit and it could be positive. I think you will only know if you try.


                          • Elrohwen
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                              With my independent bun, I’ve found that moving his environment around makes him come out and explore more. He used to have his maze in his pen area, but even when the pen was open he wouldn’t come out. Now we move the maze out of his pen when the pen is open, so he’s forced to explore across the dining room to get to it. Without the maze to lounge in all the time, he’s started exploring a lot more and hanging out with me when I come over to him. He’ll still cross the room to get to his maze, but he no longer spends 24/7 in there. We’re to the point where if I lay down on the floor, he’ll flop out about 6 inches away from me. He’ll even let me pet him and lay down as I’m petting. Both of these things are huge for him, and it all started when we shook up his world a little bit.

                              Feeding pellets by hand to my bun seems to help too. Even if he’s in his maze, he’ll get excited to see me if I’m carrying pellets. I think hand feeding him pellets for two months is one of the reasons he’s becoming more comfortable with me now and choosing to be around me more.

                              Maybe if you move your bun’s boxes, or take them away and provide new ones, he’ll be more inclined to come out. I know he loves them and you don’t want to take them away, but I think he’ll actually get more stimulation by the change in environment. Good luck!


                            • Karla
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                                I’ll try that – I had been thinking of giving him new boxes anyway, since he has chewed the others so much. I actually moved the toilet box yesterday to the other side of the room, so that he is forced to come out once in a while

                                And in fact he was more sociable last night after I had fed him raisins. When I sat down on the floor this morning and called on him to feed him more raisins, he did actually come running.

                                I know someone who has a bunny that will chase and bite just in order to get attention and be petted. The owner says that when she sits down on the floor for just one second, the bunny will jump up on her lap in order to be petted. I guess I will never get him to be like this, but if he at least acknowledges my existence once in a while, it would be great


                              • BinkyBunny
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                                  I have never really had a cuddly bunny, I mean mine will cuddle with me on the floor, but I’ve never had a bunny that enjoyed being on my lap or being held, and though there are some that enjoy sitting on their human’s lap, it is rather rare. (though many will just tolerate it and that “tolerant” behavior is often mistaken for enjoyment).

                                  Also, many people think that if they get a baby bunny that they will be able to teach them to enjoy being held. What they normally teach is to be tolerant, but bunnies really do form their personalities as they grow into adulthood, and that personality could be completely different than the what s/he was like as a baby.

                                  I think if you go to a rabbit rescue or shelter, HOPEFULLY, the people there will know the rabbits well enough to let you know which ones would be best suited for you. I know that at the rabbit rescue I volunteered for, they knew each rabbit’s personality very well – independent, cuddly, whatever and they could help potential adoptees find the right match. Not sure how the rescues are set-up where you live and if that is really an option or not.

                                  What country are you in? You can can try http://www.thehayexperts.co.uk

                                  Also, check out the toy test section under bunny info – it is all about homemade toy ideas.

                                  As far as bonding with my bunnies, I just get a bunch of pillows and hang on the floor. Now they will come over and push my hand for pets. I love that.


                                • Number1Bun
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                                    Here’s some alternative toys my bun loves — toilet paper rolls, cardboard anything, fleece fabric, stuffed animals, grape vine, stick bundle. I also just got her one of those edible hidey house log things. She’s obsessed & it’s great for her teeth! Just spend more time getting to know your bun & do more research on how to get them to trust you more. ?


                                  • Wick & Fable
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                                      Thank you Number1Bun for those suggestions! This is an old topic, so the original poster most likely will not see your response. We encourage users to respond only to newer topics so there’s a better chance of a conversation. I will lock this topic, but feel free to contribute in any recent topics!

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