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Forum BONDING Pudge & Leila bonding

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    • 2lops
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        Okay, so tonight we introduced Pudge and Leila for the first time.

        [Before the introduction Leila had her stunt bunny Pudge for 1 week + so I think that helped alot.]

        First I put them side by side in the neutral area (tub) and pet them for a bit. They were both calm and when I stopped petting, Leila perked her head up and groomed Pudge for a couple seconds. Pudge loved this,(he’s always a sucker for girl buns grooming him ). Anyways they both mounted eachother a couple times (but not for long) as when Pudge mounted Leila she began wimpering and when Leila mounted Pudge I was afraid she was going to be too persistant and would began nipping his neck (as that’s what she did to the stunt Pudge many,many times) so i sprayed her side… she didn’t even notice lol. But they both snuggled many times and usually stayed close to eachother. I’m so proud of Pudge for being so submissive  and also Leila I guess.. for not starting a fight or trying to hurt him in anyway…

        The session didn’t last to long (10 mins i think..) because I wanted to make sure they were seperated on a good note.

        Hope to do another session tomorrow.

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      • sweetbluebun
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          Sounds very promising! Looks like Pudge and Leila are on their way to becoming a very happy couple


        • Beka27
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            that does sound promising. it’s okay to allow the mounting to happen for a short time, not longer than maybe 20 seconds. and you want to be sure that they are mounting in the correct direction. if either bun mounts the others head, they can suffer a nasty bite. for a first intro, it does sound good.


          • Sarita
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              That does sound good!


            • 2lops
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                update~ session 2 didn’t go as well. Leila kept whimpering (or grunting…?) when Pudge mounted her.
                They got in small arguments and chased each other in circles but Leila seemed to be nipping so I always broke them up.
                Leila is worrying me, she nips Pudge’s rump and also tried to burrow her head under it as if trying to get at his ‘stuff’… and then Pudge decided to mount Leila from the front! I quickly broke it up. They seemed more destructive and were digging at the towels laid out for them. Whenever I forced them side by side and stroked them they seemed okay. Both seemed to enjoy it, and would wait a few seconds after I stopped stroking to perk up. I sprayed Leila about 3 times cuz she was being too aggressive (tried nipping him on his side a bunch of times..). Anyways next session I’ll turn the drier on because I think that helped with the first session. But overall it didn’t seem too good.

                edit~ oh yes, Pudge did 2 loud thumps twice and someone (I’m pretty sure Leila) peed…if that means anything important.. -_-


              • MarkBun
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                  Things like this will happen and is part of normal bonding. Don’t get discouraged.


                • 2lops
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                    Thanks, I didn’t have time to do another session today but should definitely be able to fit one in tomorrow. I’m going to try the “Banana smeared on head” thing with both of them. Usually they both could care less about food when they out playing. But Leila, as far as I know has never tried bananas so we’ll give it a try… Bit worried she’ll take a chunk of fur off with the banana though… she’s not as… “coordinated” as Pudge..


                  • karenleslie
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                      They are so sweet!


                    • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                        Sounds like it’s coming along great!


                      • 2lops
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                          heh heh, I wish

                          3 session- Was alot like the 2nd, they had small arguments, Leila was being bossy and kept nipping Pudge, and they were both being lil’ buggers and wouldn’t groom eachother, yet, they both insisted that the other groomed them by shoving their head into the other’s face. Leila licked the banana off Pudge’s forehead once, but not for long. Pudge did more disapproving thumps when he got pi – – ed at the way the session was going… Leila is a tad physco. She’s very ….destructive lol… she seemed more interested in banishing the towels then socializing with Pudge. Whenever Pudge goes near her he gets a small nip (which probably doesn’t even hurt with his thick ever-shedding coat) but SaveABunny info says it’s ‘good’ they’re not paying attention to the other… which I guess is okay considering Leila’s ‘tude (she even bit me when I did one of the break ups!). Anyways ‘nother session tomorrow hopefully. I don’t think they like the tub very much at all so I guess I could find another neutral area to pen off.
                          Today’s outcome? 2 unhappy,destructive,sticky-headed, disapproving rabbits.

                           

                           

                          here are some pics of today & yesterday’s pics.  1st-Pudge before the session 2nd-during one of the sessions just after I stopped stroking them (don’t let this picture fool you..) 3rd- going about their destructive ways. 4th-Leila (or shall I say “Diva Bunneh”) who flopped after a ‘hard’ 10 min session of being bossy.

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                        • 2lops
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                            4th session (15-20 mins)- Pudge thumped twice in disapproval and again Leila peed ruining a near by box lol. But overall it was pretty good! I used the whole bathroom for them to run around and they seemed to enjoy it. Thankfully, Leila groomed Pudge 3 times!!! (: Pudge groomed Leila- 0 times haha, but atleast he was being nice and din’t even try to mount her. She followed him around at points as if she was going to mount but she keeps nuzzling her head under his rump and nips too! I always stop her when she does this, she does this with her stunt Pudge too, she’ll flip it over and hop around and nudge it around. Hmm. Anyone know what’s up with this?…….. anyways In these lil cat cube thing they both hopped in and snuggled by themselves which was great. …Pics soon!

                             

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                          • 2lops
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                              5th session….help!
                              There’s a tiny bit of fur in the box they’re snuggling in now. I have a sneaking suspicion it’s Pudges too.
                              Every second they’re either snuggling up or arguing. But now, seems like mostly snuggling. I don’t know if this is a “flopping war” or what. Leila (the evil one) is probably just exhausted from bossing Pudge around so much. But literally every second! Like right now! (yes i hooked up the laptop in here -_-) I bet Pudge would be so easy with another bunny. He’s being so laid back and submissive and begging for grooms from Leila. Jeez. Why can’t Leila be a nice bunneh?

                              Bonding session just ended and I put Leila back in her home. Then I tranced Pudge, Gosh it’s cute I wish I had my camera by me! He was out of it and that got him relaxed until he snapped out of it and when back in the box after a couple stink eyes and boxes.


                            • Beka27
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                                it actually sounds like it’s going very well. bonding takes time, even “easy bonding” can take a couple weeks. i would not be too concerned about the lack of grooming. sometimes that comes much later. you are doing a good thing by doing “forced snuggling” and grooming their foreheads yourself. even tho it’s you grooming them, it will calm them anyways and they’ll associate that calming with the other bunny. are they able to hop past each other with no incident? no lunging? have you tried hay in the litterbox or a plate of veggies for the two to share? you might get a small bag of a “special hay blend” as a treat just to be used during bonding. are you switching pens every night?


                              • 2lops
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                                  Thanks! For the most part, yes, they can walk past each other with no incidents. I have not tried the hay in litter box thing yet as I only have one big cat litterbox and it’s in Pudge’s pen (so I’m worried his scent will be all over it and that might lead to him being more aggressive?). I do always put out the bowl of veggies. They haven’t eaten any together yet but they do stop by occasionally to grab a bite. They also have a bowl of hay put out. I’ll buy the hay blend I see in Petsmart! (: I have not switched their pens yet, but I definitely will soon. I attached some pictures of them snuggling. They must have snuggled at least 10 times last session. You can tell Pudge was being careful and trying not to annoy her haha.

                                   

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                                • xParadise
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                                    How cute!


                                  • 2lops
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                                      thanks!

                                      I think i did the 6th session but i can’t remember it. I think it went normally, small fights and cuddles.
                                      7th session- more arguments,chasing and nipping. But they did cuddle a bit and i was so proud of Pudge  towards the end he groomed Leila as if she hadn’t washed herself in weeks. He groomed her whole forehead and a bit of her ear! This is the most grooming I’ve ever seen Pudge do to another rabbit! anyways Leila who was flopped beside him was totally enjoying the attention and was slowly dozing off. Once Pudge stopped grooming I slid him away and scooped him up to put him back in his pen *it was getting real late and I wanted to leave them on a good note!) When I was doing the daily clean to the pens Leila decided to hop in her pen (which I had put Pudge in for about 4 days) and visit Pudge! I was so afraid Pudge would spazz out at her because the pen isn’t that big and they can easily start a fight. but i held them down and Leila kept slipping out everytime I tried to scoop her up (she hate hate HATES being held!). I finally managed to scoop her up for 30 secs which gave her time to hop out of my arms and rush into Pudge’s pen disapprovingly.


                                    • 2lops
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                                        8th session…
                                        Gee Delilah is a bossy little thing. Pudge will be in the box and she’ll annoy him until he leaves then when he goes into the cat cube she’ll hop in and annoy him until he goes back to the box! Poor Pudgy. But overall they’re doing pretty well… grooming more often but still having dominance fights… Leila seems to be a little trouble maker diva bunny.

                                         

                                         

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