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Forum BEHAVIOR A circling and sound effects question

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    • Quantum
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        Quantum’s doing great!  She’s discovered that petting is a fine, fine thing and there should be lots of it.  She’s also started circling my feet–I’m assuming that’s a good thing?  Kind of like, “Happy to see you!” maybe?

        Also, when I lay on the floor, she’ll run around my head (well, it’s a half-arc, but you know what I mean) making a soft “uh, uh, uh” sound.  Is that oinking?  Grunting?  Neither?  If I reach out, she’ll stop and present for more pets and I was curious if that was oinking or not.  Her favorite spot is now laid out next to the couch if Mike or I (or both) are on there.  Easy access for petting, she’s found.

         


      • kralspace
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          Hi Quantum ‘s mom, I have a girl that looks just like her, except she’s a lop ear. That circling and oinking could be her saying……hellllooooo there sexy!


        • bunnytowne
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            She is spayed right?  If not may be mating behavior.

            Yes the little breathing noises they can make are cute.  It probably means she is happy and showing you by making breathing noises.  Or sometimes a grunt hummy noise not in any way aggressive. She may also be asking for pettings as well when she does this.  Awe such a sweet sign of affection she has.

            HB would do that. In fact I need hubby to go get him now that I got the cages under control here.


          • jerseygirl
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              Sounds like oinking/honking. Sign of happy contentedness in my book! Good for you!


            • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                Yup that’s the happy bunny love dance! heheh You must be good looking


              • hooty22
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                  Well I came up with a different meaning for the circling. Does anyone remember the episode of Full House where Uncle Jesse’s Greek little neighbor boy walks DJ around the table and then they were married? Later in the episode, they walked backwards around the table and were divorced…. That’s Felony’s dance. He runs one direction in a circle and I say (in his sexy Antonio Banderas voice) “Marry me! I love you I love you I love you!” Then when he quickly decides to change directions, I say (still in voice) “I divorce you! I hate you I hate you I hate you!” Then I realize that I’m crazy and I’m so very happy that I’m only 24 and that I have a boyfriend or else I would be a crazy old bunny lady…..


                • Quantum
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                    Thanks, all!  As for intimations of attractiveness , well, Mike thinks so, but he’s biased!  I don’t know if she’s spayed or not, which was going to be my next question–is there any way I can tell other than taking her into the vet?  I do need to find a vet that does bunnies around here (I believe there are 2), but haven’t gotten one picked out yet.  And Hooty, I love it!  I talk to her all the time and sing her old classics like, “Bunnies in the Night (Are So Entrancing….)”.  Anybody else walking in will think I’ve skipped a cog or twelve.  Mike’s used to my madness. 

                    I haven’t picked her up and flipped her over since we first brought her in since she’s still not excited about even the briefest pick-up.  She has learned, “Bedtime!” means, “Hmmm….I have to walk into my cage, but there’s always a big bowl of romaine and parsley and maybe a raisin or a very thin apple slice cut-up.  Hmmmmm….”  It takes her a minute or less of pondering and then, boop! in she goes.  Much less stress on all concerned.  And you guys weren’t kidding about buns having their own schedule.  It gets to be near 9pm (normal bedtime around here) and she starts hanging out near her cage.  I wanted to work on picking her up when we’re both here–both for the back-up (so-to-speak) and also that she gets used to both of us doing it and that it’s not scary no matter who does it.

                     

                    ETA: Kralspace–that’s a beautiful bun!  Lops are sooo cute!  And Bunnytowne how can you resist giving Cotton whatever he wants?  I love your avatar of him (and Hooty’s Felony).  Arrrrggghh!  Must resist urge for another bunny!!!!


                  • Beka27
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                      there’s no way to tell if she’s been spayed. a vet might be able to feel a scar, but often they won’t know until they go in to do the surgery.

                      the presence of her dewlap indicates to me that she is probably not spayed. normally, if a female bun is spayed, they will not develop a dewlap (unless they’re spayed once it’s already there). the fact that she was found abandoned also strongly indicates that she might not have been well taken care of. my general thinking is that if you are knowledgable enough to get your bunny altered, you’re not going to abandon it outside. finally, the fact that she is honking and circling (classic puberty/hormone behavior) makes me believe she will still need to be spayed.

                      the circling is cute at first, but it can quickly turn aggressive and territorial. i’ve suffered plenty from my hormone-driven girl. i was literally counting down the days till it was time to take her in. i’d suggest that you make a decision on who your vet will be so you can get her taken care of… maybe call them and ask some screening questions. are they listed on the HRS recc vet list?


                    • Balefulregards
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                        Oh the first days of the bun/human relationship…

                        Yeah – Coco was cute until the humming and grunting became mounting my forearm and biting it as she furiously mated with my arm.
                        Followed by peeing on my bed as a little “Thanks for the good time” gesture.

                        I couldn’t get her into the vets fast enough – and had to endure a second month of loving.

                        She finds me less sexy now – ( bunny love bites are PAINFUL) and while I don’t mind a little slap and tickle in the bed…I prefer it with my human partners!


                      • Beka27
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                          ^^^LMAO!!!!!!!!!


                        • bunnytowne
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                            Bunnies in the Night la da de da da.      You crack me up rofl.  I sing to my buns too but I make up my own songs off the top of my head. I dont’ use other songs and reword them.  Though that would be really funny and lots of fun.  I haven’t listened to the radio in …..  I think years.

                            I wouldn’t know where to start.  Sometimes I listen to classical.  Not much wording to play with there. I love to hear about your songs to  your buns. Is fun.

                            OH yes I much prefer my mate to be human.  Thank  you very much.  Oh such silly bunnies and us humans.

                            Good thing my neighbor doesn’t have a computer she would have me locked up. Spying on me in BB.


                          • Quantum
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                              Thanks again, all.  I’ll keep a weather-eye out for other signs of hormonal behavior.  When I say “circling”, it’s usually a single lap or 3/4 of a lap (always clockwise).  No biting, mounting, aggressive behavior at all.  The closest she’s come to biting is nibbling at a seam on my jeans when she was doing a little grooming.  For the most part, she’s little Ms. Laidback.  Actually, the closest she comes to any aggressive behavior is if you’re petting her and your arm gets tired (hanging over the edge of the couch), so you pause and let your hand hang there, she shoves her head under your hand and upwards–“Hey!  Who told you you could stop??!?”  So, little Ms. Laidback, but Demanding of Pets, I guess.

                              I don’t know but that whoever had her before may have had her fixed.  Other than being a little overweight and slow when we first saw her, she came to us to eat readily enough, was very clean and healthy appearing.  Even after the “trauma” of being picked up and brought into the house, it was only a few days of standoffish behavior.  Now, she sprawls in the middle of the floor or next to the couch, looks for pets, sits up when you come in the room (in hopes a treat of some sort might be forthcoming), caught on to the whole litter box thing very quickly (she still leaves pellets on the floor near the box, but will only pee in the box).  Never drops pellets or pee anywhere else marking her territory and I’ve only seen her chin one thing.  Whoever had her before certainly socialized her well.  Hmmmmm…better get onto the vet idea; I just hate the thought of putting her through surgery only to find out she doesn’t need it.  Maybe the vet’ll have some other ideas of how to check.

                              And BT–oldies are the best, “Bunnies in the Night,” “It had to be Quantum,” “Last Train to Bunville,” “Begin the Bunine”, “Some Enchanted Bunny”, etc. 

                               


                            • Beka27
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                                BT, you might not want to listen to the radio again… i find there’s not too much there worth listening to (and i’m young… lol…)


                              • kAtHrYnLoVeSdAiSy
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                                  I was so happy to find this thread!! I have had the weirdest day with Daisy! She loves to be petted, but on her terms. I have to be on the floor next to her and I am not allowed to pick her up! She hates to be held and if I try and lift her, she kicks like a donkey!

                                  But I have been having the best luck recently. A new flatmate moved in, Sara, and she spends time with Daisy. I swear, the girl is Mrs Doolittle. Since Sara arrived, Daisy has been more mellow, more playful and seems a lot happier. I have been working on getting her to allow me to pick her up. It’s been a slow process, but since Sara has been here, it’s like she has a new lease of life! I have managed to get Daisy to the stage where I can pet her on the floor and then when she is completely relaxes, I can lift her gently onto my lap and pet her there. She only stays for a few moments before she realises that she is out of her comfort zone and hops down. I let her do this, and wait for her to settle near me again before repeating the process.

                                  Then today… I had her on my lap for a full 30 minutes! It’s like Christmas has come early!! After half an hour, she hopped down and began to circle me on the floor, hopping about and making a grunting sound. then she hopped back on my lap and asked for more strokes! I obliged, of course, and after another 10 minutes, she hopped back down and circled me a dozen times, again with the little grunts.

                                  I was slightly worried. I got onto the forum just as soon as I could. I heard that bunnies only make noises when they are angry or frightenened. (She growls at the broom whenever I sweep her room! She really hates the thing!!) But to find out that she might just be hormonal is such a relief! She has been humping her comfort toy (The Cheshire Cat, three times the size of her!) since she was a tiny bubba. But recently, the humps have been more frequent! I think it’s time for a trip to the vet! I am calling them tomorrow to book an appointment.

                                  I feel so sad to do it now, since we are now bonding on my terms as well as hers, but I mustn’t be selfish. If she is hormaonal, she must be pretty wound up, and I am sure that with patience and perserverance, I can get her back to her new self in time. At least now I know that she has the ability to be affectionate! What a relief!

                                  I can’t thank Sara Doolittle enough! Something about the girl has made Daisy relax. I am so very grateful to her! She has done the same with my evil hamster! Snake Bait (as she is affectionately names) is a biter and always has been. I can’t really hold her because she is so fast and squirmy. But since Sara has been handling her, SB might as well be a new hamster!! She doesnt bite any more, she has mellowed out and is now slow enough for me to play with her for ages on end!

                                  I swear, it’s like this girl was sent from animal heaven to help me! I feel dissappointed in myself that I could not effect this change alone. I feel like a failing mother who had to call Nanny 911!!! But what the hey, at long last, my animals are starting to love me as much as I love them! I am so happy I could actually sing!!!


                                • jerseygirl
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                                    That’s great! Some people exude a calmness that animals really respond to. Likely Sara has that ability and has been able to gain the animals trust. She may be affecting you too! (?) Making yourself calmer and Daisy and SB feel can pick up the differance.

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