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› Forum › HOUSE RABBIT Q & A › Two neutered males?
Im just wondering if anyone can tell me if its okay to keep two neutered male bunnies together? I already have Henry who is a 7months old neutered netherland dwarf and i think he could prob do with a friend. From experience I prefer males to females so was wondering would it be okay to get him a male friend and keep their c&c cages near each other until i can neuter the new one. Would it be too late to give him a friend in afew months when he is nearly a year old? i am afraid he might be used to his own space then and less likely to accept a friend
most bunnies love having a friend. in most cases, a male and female (both altered) will get along best, two males might be harder to bond. it’s usually suggested that you allow the bunny to pick his own mate from a shelter or rescue (we call that bunny dating) b/c not all rabbits will get along.
this is a really great article about the process of bunny bonding… http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articles/bond.shtml
Thanks Beka… There are only a couple of shelters in this country and they very rarely have small animals and there is a waiting list a mile long of people waiting on rabbits and guinea pigs so most people have no choice but to buy from pet shops or breeders…which there are very few of. I suppose its a good thing in a way that we dont have a problem with unwanted rabbits in the country. The idea of keeping house bunnies is only catching on abit now. Most people still keep rabbits out in the back garden which really annoys me and when i made the choice to get Henry neutered people thought i was crazy saying ” sure why are you doing that? Its not like he will ever meet any female rabbits!” Anyway sorry… i went off on abit of a rant there! There is a place in Dublin and they have a litter of mini lops. Would you recommend that i bring Henry out when i go to have a look and see how he reacts with them? I will have a read of the artcle now. Thanks again
oh! i didn’t even notice you were in Ireland!
in that case, i know your options are very limited. if you get a baby bunny, there’s not really a point in bringing him to make introductions. any bunny you pick will be an entirely different bun by the time sexual maturity rolls around anyways. another option… if a breeder has an older “retired” bun they are looking to rehome, you could take that one and neuter/spay right away. that way you could introduce and bond sooner. baby buns are cute, but you never know what their final personality will be.
Our two boys are altered and get along very well together….besides to occasional reverse attempt to mount each other….(mount the head instead of the correct direction )
We thought it was going to be a tough job to get them to play together, but it took about 10 seconds. They just started playing together. Although becasue the mounting usually results in pulled fur, then a skin infections, they have seperate cages, but are allowed out to play together with supervision.
Chris, you really got lucky! That’s great! However, Luna, this really is not the norm. It’s not to say something like this couldn’t happen, but I wouldn’t bank on it, and you could get stuck with two rabbits – two set-ups. So, of course, I say go what for is statistically easier. The website that Beka gave you has good information on what pairs work best (and of course there are exceptions to that too).
Was there a specific reason you have for not wanting a female bunny? What have been your experiences, or what have you heard about female bunnies that makes you steer away?
Thanks everyone I had dwarf rabbits when i was younger and i actually loved my female. She was very docile and had no problem with handling etc but i have a friend who has a female rabbit who is completely vicious. She pounces on you with her claws if you go to rub her. She is two and un neutered. I have given up on telling my friend the benefits of spaying. Not only have i given her the information and statistics of the likelihood her getting cancer by the time she is five but i told her about my personal experience. My female Chloe died when she was five…thinking about it now it was definitely cancer and it makes me quite sad to think i didnt know back then. i brought her to the vet and he did nothing for her!!! She really did suffer
This was ten years ago and even though i had lots of books on rabbits nothing was mentioned about neutering. Another thing that is putting me off getting a female is that spaying is more invasive a procedure and i was nervous enough about Henrys neutering. These are only small things though and after reading the replies and the article from Beka i will be getting a girl now if i decide to get him a friend. Could i let them have floor time together until i get her spayed( if its a baby bunny that is)? Obviously i would take all the advice from the article when bonding them. Its going to be so hard convincing my boyfriend of this new idea as we already have a hamster and four female piggies in a huge c&c cage and i promised him that after Henry that would be it!!! I would get her spayed at 4-5months. Would her hormones start to take over at that stage? I dont want Henry getting hurt
The best thing to do is prob not introduce her to him until after the procedure but just want to be sure.
I would consider ringing breeders to see if they have any retired female buns but personally would be abit wary that the health of the rabbit might not be 100%. How can you be sure that they didnt over breed her:-/ I feel much better now that i know what options i have. Thanks guys Will keep ye updated on what i decide to do!xx
ps- What is the upper age limit for spaying a female? Thanks
Yay… I have an update already. I got in touch with the breeder i was talking about and he has a litter of 4 week old mini rexes and also 12 week old ones so i am going out on saturday to have a look. Im so excited!!! i might be coming home with a 2nd bunny im reallly impatient so will prob get one from the older litter because i dont think i can wait a full month until the others are ready!
I really hope Henry and the new gal can be friends….fingers crossed xx
it sounds like your friend’s female is extremely territorial and aggressive, which would be due to the fact that she’s intact. her hormone’s are raging. it’s really no fault of her own. it’s hard to encourage people to the right thing sometimes without appearing nagging. the best you can do is lead by example. she’ll hopefully see how sweet your lil lady is post-spaying and this might convince her it’s the best thing to do.
i’m so sorry that you lost your Chloe! that is very sad. many books are aimed at the hutch bunny, or aimed at breeding, or focus on the bunny being an easy childhood pet. fortunately, now there is better info available and vets are more experienced with rabbits care. i lost a bun at 3 years old, my little boy Stephen, and let me tell you, i did everything wrong at the beginning. i was able to correct diet and housing and the other small things before he passed, but i never got around to having him neutered. i waited a couple years to get another bunny. i found the House Rabbit Society page (rabbit.org… best site ever!) and i read it front to back for a full year before deciding to get another bunny. i knew that if i did it again, i was going to do it right. it still makes me sad thinking back that Stephen was my “trial and error” bunny, but i’ve been able to take the things i’ve learned from him and from further research (and BinkyBunny!) and give my two buns now the best lives i can. we all do what we can with what we have. :o)
spaying is more invasive. it is more expensive due to the fact that it’s a bigger surgery. also, most vets will not spay before 6 months of age. there is not really an upper limit on age. some have gotten buns spayed at 2 or 3 years, even up to 5 or 6. past 5 or 6, it’s a little bit iffy. they are considered “seniors” at that point and the risks might outweigh the benefits. cancer is still a real risk, so you have to be diligent to watch your rabbit’s health.
if you were to get a retired bun, chances are they would not be very old tho. i don’t know much about breeders, but i think they might not breed a bun past about a year. if in doubt, ask questions. if you are purchasing a baby from the breeder, you would hope they are responsible with the mothers and fathers as well. there is no greater chance of cancer in a bun who has had litters, than a bun who has never had litters, as long as both are spayed. a positive thing about getting an older bun, you are adopting one that otherwise might be passed over for the “cute little babies”. with proper care, a one year old bun will still be with you for many years to come, and you’d be missing the messy baby stage. it’s something to think about.
if you go the baby route, a baby bun can be introduced to Henry. he is neutered, so there’s no risk of pregnancy. be careful tho! hormones kick in at about 4-6 months. so there’s a chance she might be a little bit testy for a while before she is spayed. if they fight before she is altered, that can affect the bonding process afterwards, plus either (or both) can get badly hurt in a scuffle. i would keep them supervised if you let them play together. if they don’t fight, you *could* house them together, but be aware that at any time she could take a turn for the worse, so always be prepared with separate housing. the safest route would be separate housing, but where they can see and smell each other. it’s important that they both continue to get outside of the cage playtime.
please let us know how this works out for you, and we love bunny pics, so if you have any you’d like to share…
in addition to the link above, here is the HRS FAQ on bonding: http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/introductions.html
and the BinkyBunny page on bonding: binkybunny.com/BUNNYINFO/BondingInfo/tabid/63/Default.aspx
we also have a new bonding forum that documents member’s experiences with the process, many post pics and videos of how they go about the bonding sessions. this is great b/c you can see that some pairings are very easy, some are much more difficult. it’s true that ever bun is an individual, so your experience may vary: https://www.binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/view/topics/forumid/11/Default.aspx
the link i posted for you first is my favorite bonding site (http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articles/bond.shtml). i actually printed it out and i would reread parts of it every day as i was bonding my two buns. it gives great detail.
Meadow is my mini rex (she’s the one i had first). i bonded her to Max, the lop mix.
Thanks a million for all the info Beka. I really appreciate it. Im also very sorry to hear about your bunny Stephen. Its so easy to feel guilty about mistakes we have made with our animals…isnt it? but your right… the information available to us these days is much better and it was and its not our fault that it wasnt as readily available back then.
I love the pics of your two bunnies. They look quite alike until you look more closely at them. Are they great friends? I took some pics of Henry lastnight…it was not easy!!! He becomes particularly active when we whip out the camera…hee hee! I will post them as soon as my boyfriend gets home… in about 2 hours.
My friend was over a while ago and i told her about my news and she was saying she would love to get a friend for her bunny but she is far too aggressive. I had to bite down on my tongue because as you said we dont want to appear like we are nagging or preaching. Would you believe i actually had her convinced about getting her bunny spayed and gave her the number for my vet who is brillliant with small animals. I explained that most vets in Dublin dont know alot about small animal surgeries but she told me today that she rang the local vet in her area and the nurse said there is a 50/50 chance of the rabbit dying going under anaesthetic especially because her rabbit is 2 years! Now she is definitely not going through with it. I give up now I guess all we can do is look after out own little ones and do our best for them … and lead by example like you said
The breeder i was chatting to yesterday was very nice and seemed very genuine. he said they only breed from their bunnies three times a year as he doesnt want to tire them out. For some reason 3 times a year still seems like alot to me. What do you think? I enquired whether he had any does that he is thinking of retiring and he says he has a dutch who had a litter of two recently so is thinking of retiring her now. He couldnt tell me her age as she came in as a rescue bunny. He has been breeding her for a year and thinks she was maybe one when he got her. he is not sure! He said she is not a small rabbit though. i think i will just have to see when i go out on saturday to visit the place. I have a choice of her and a 12 week old mini rex. how large a bunny can i get to be friends with Henry? He is TINY! xx
thanks for you kinda words about Stephen. i miss him a lot, some days more than others, especially on here when i see buns who look similar to him.
i adore my Max and Meadow. they are great friends, “love-buns” actually. i adopted Max in June and it took about 3 weeks of daily one-hour bonding sessions. they had their fair share of scuffles, but in the end it worked out perfectly. the important thing is being confident and persistent.
that’s very upsetting about the nurse saying those things to your friend. my guess is that they are just not experienced in the surgeries and they prefer to discourage people rather than admit their own incompetence… if she would still be willing to, i hope she’ll call other places and inquire as to their ability.
bunny gestation is about 28 days and they can get pregnant immediately after delivering, even the same day they give birth! so technically, a rabbit could have 12 litters in one year, altho i’m not sure if that would happen. it would be far too much stress on the mama bun. 3 times a year does not seem abnormal to me, not that i promote breeding, but i think the breeder sounds pretty responsible. keep an open mind. trust that the bun that is right for you will find her way to you…
I will keep an open mind. Thats a relief to know 3 times a year is okay for breeding. Cant wait to get out to see them on saturday now!
Anyway here are some photos as promised. Sorry it took so long!!!
OMG Henry is so beautiful- he looks so silvery and frosty!!!
he is beautiful! what a character! i can see how he’s the light of your life! i bet he’d love a friend!
Thanks for the nice comments I got my new girl yesterday and have afew questions about bonding them which i will post in the bonding section. She is lovely! im really happy
Hi Luna
Just wanted to poke head in and say congrats on the little girl bun. I love the name you chose (just read your post in bonding section )
Henry looks like a sweetie pie!
The boards are a little quite right now but as majority of members are in US, they’re bound to be coming on over the next few hours to help with your questions! Good luck with the bonding of Poppy and Henry!
Aw thanks Jerseygirl..thats really nice of you. Henry is a real sweetie alright. He is a funny little character and so well behaved. Lets hope Poppy doesnt teach him any bad habits! She is a lovely bunny. Cant believe how self assured she is in her new environment. When we brought Henry home he was only a baby and he didnt eat or drink for nearly a day and it took him that long to explore his enclosure. But as soon as i put Poppy in her cage she took a drink then ate some food and binkied for a good while around the enclosure. I thought her C&C cage was gonna collapse… hee hee
She lets me pick her up no problem and doesnt mind being carried around plus she was grinding her teeth a little this morning when we had her out so i hope thats a sign she was nice and content!? Hopefully i can bond the pair of them successfully now xx
Henry looks kinda chinchilla-ey…sooo cute! Well congrats on the duo, sounds like you have your resources in place and things will go okey dokey!
Aw thanks for the reassurance… i have decided to postpone bonding until Poppy is spayed. Henry was getting abit carried away. He is a little monkey!
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