Sounds like your bun may be going through a prelude to GI stasis or having tooth problems. I can only recommend that as soon as your vet opens up in the morning that your bun be seen. It may seem like she is okay now and she may be, but it’d be best to have a thorough check up. They will be able to tell you best what to do.

I have seen other members of the forum go through stasis events with their bunnies; whether it’s because there is fur compacted in the digestive tract or some other reason, like molar spurs that cause a bunny to stop eating, and sometimes there is need for fluids and gut motility drugs. Other times, it’s just gas from something they ate that didn’t agree with them and stomach massage and simethicone can be helpful. But before performing any home treatment, I would strongly suggest your bunny be seen by her doctor, just to be safe.

Please do continue to watch her and especially note how she poops. Sometimes that can hold clues to why she wasn’t eating or drinking before. Generous amounts of hay are essential all day every day for a bunny’s tummy to work properly.

I will send some healing vibes to you and I hope your bunny will continue to do well. You are a very good bunny parent to be able to catch her symptoms so well and take such good care of her.

Glad to hear she’s on the improve. It is important to watch her closely. Clean out her litter box or cage to you can keep track of her poop from now on. If she’s not pooping, she needs attention. Has she had anything to eat recently that is not normally in her diet? This can sometimes cause an upset or gas episode. It does sound like it was gas but be really vigilant watching for signs of GI stasis. Buns do a loud tooth grinding when in pain – it’s different to the tooth purr you may sometimes hear when petting them.

If she’s eating a bit now, try get her to eat wet greens if she’s used to them. This’ll help get fluid into her as well. Hope she continues to do better.

Welcome,

Give her a couple of cc’s of baby gas medicine (Ovol) . They can’t OD and it won’t cause any other problems. It could be painful gas, that’d cause the haunching, the tooth grinding (and indication of pain) and a relucatance to eat.

You can then give her a tummy rum (gently rub her tummy) and try some more treats to entice her to eat. You can also grind up some of her pellets with a bit of water and syringe it into her mouth.

Get her to the vet asap in the morning though PLEASE! Alot of people loose their bunnies waiting…It’s serious when they stop eating. {{VIBES}}

Hrm…I’m not sure about the fruit…if it’s small and it’ll get her to eat, I would do it. But it’s up to you. I emailed the rest of the forum leaders so they should be on soon!

I’m super pumped to hear the tummy rub got her to poop. Do you have a pharmacy near you? You could grab some gas meds for under five dollars and it tastes good so they don’t mind taking it.

Great great and great!! That’s awesome {{VIBES}} Keep us posted!

Good to know she’s eating a bit.  And especially important that she is keeping hydrated.  That is a good sign, but she obviously is still not feeling well since she is allowing you to touch her stomach when normally she wouldn’t.  In cases like gas, if after you’ve tried the baby gas med and it doesn’t go  away in a couple of hours, I recommend seeing an emergency vet.   The pain alone that gas can cause can make a rabbit go into shock, so  it is important for this to get this resolved quickly.

Sometimes getting a bunny to move around can help with a rabbit who has gas. 

Again, this is assuming it is gas, and since we are not vets, there is no way for us to know for sure.

Here is an excellent article by Dana Krempels  regardilng gi stasis including  all the different symptoms(including gas) and treatments, http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html, but again please note that if your bunny gets to point of grinding teeth and/or begins to get lethargic, it’s an emergency. 

How is she doing right now?  How do her ears feel? How does her stomach feel? 

Please keep us updated.

i just got the message. how is she this morning, did you get her to the vet?

Please let us know how your bunny is doing! {{ VIBES }}

Well, glad to hear that at least one vet would see your bunny. I know, it is frustrating when you can’t find a doc who is rabbit savvy, I hope this one will be able to help you though.
I would definitely have them look at her teeth with an otoscope. And go ahead and have them check her for stasis. Not sure if they’ll have to do an xray, but better to be safe than sorry. I haven’t had to deal with stasis, but I know several of us ont he boards have and one of them should be able to give you better advice in that area than I.

I recently did have to deal with bunny tooth problems though, and I would urge you that, if they need trimming or some such attention, have the doctor grind them down with a dremel, not clip them. Clipping tends to lead to cracking and that can cause more problems for your bunny.

I think my old thread on my bunny’s teeth may be in this part of the forum. I tried searching it but that function won’t work for me. If you have time to look for a thread titled “Mimzy’s Teeth” you’ll see all the craziness I just went through and how the problem was solved. Hopefully it will help give you some information.

Bunnies’ teeth grow continually, and sometimes they just don’t wear down properly and have to be trimmed or ground down. In rare extreme cases, removal is recommended. If she just started having problems, maybe a spur has grown on one of the teeth and it’s affecting her biting surfaces. If that’s the case, it should be simple to correct. And then your bun can get back to gnawing on carrots and sticks again!

Ah, found the link to the thread. Hope it helps a bit.
https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/forumid/1/postid/72008/view/topic/Default.aspx

I am so glad to hear she is doing better. Mimzmum gave you some great advice about teeth issues. It is not uncommon, especially in lops and dwarfs.

Irritated eye(s) can also be a symptom of dental problems. (Though it can also mean a scratch or infection) But I wouldn’t be surprised if it is related to what may be going on in her mouth. (if there is a problem)

You had asked earlier why it’s so difficult to find a vet that treats rabbits – Rabbits are actually considered exotic. That may sound strange, but it’s because of their complex digestive system, what meds they can tolerate, as well as the way that anethesia should be administered/monitored. (it’s different than cats/dogs – my understanding is because of rabbits higher heartbeat and their prey animal response, they need higher, almost toxic doses, to keep them under, and so it’s very important that a vet keeps it at “right” level at all times, not go over, not go under. So all of this  puts rabbits in the “exotic” category requiring a vet who has specialized training. Not all vets have “exotics” training, and that’s why you’ll find vets that say they don’t see rabbits, and why you should search out vets that do.

As far as keeping her calm for the vets – just make her carrier comfortable with something soft and cozy. If she has a toy (some bunnies have toy bunnies), then bring it along. And just pet her and talk to her.

Let us know how it goes.

Glad to hear the link helped. Binky gave you some great suggestions! My buns don’t care for the vet’s either, (honestly, it’s the car ride that’s the worst, I think) but a lot of cooing and cuddling and then a nice treat when we get back home and they soon forget all about it…till next time.

Some folks here also use a flower essence called Bach’s Rescue Remedy. It is a homeopathic liquid that you spray into their water the night before I think. But you have to find it in health stores or on Ebay. You may not have time for that now, but perhaps for your next trip.

If the eye is red, your bun could also have a blocked tear duct. I may be going through the same thing this week, as my lop is also displaying further signs of tooth/eye/jaw problems. I’ll be keeping healing vibes going for you and your bun!

If you check the House Rabbit Society website, http://www.rabbit.org, you can go to their recommended vets list – International listing. It has a link to a site with Canadian vets, and there are about 4 listed for Toronto. I just tried to paste the list here for you, but my computer is fouled up lately and it wouldn’t stick.

Hope this helps a little. Sounds like your little one is on the mend. Welcome, btw.

Oh poor little thing! (healing vibes and anti-stress noserubs) Yeah, my bunnies have to put up with my husband’s crazy driving and in the snow and ice up here, it doesn’t make it any easier for them. We did a few slides into parking lots and up to stop signs and I had to thump him each time he forgot bun was riding with us. >.<

The worry about clipping is that a tooth can then chip or crack down to the root and then that tooth will have to be removed. I didn’t know that when I took Mimzy in, and only found an article about the dangers of clipping to my intense dismay after we’d gotten home from the vet. Mimzy seems well and I don’t think his teeth are permanently damaged, but I am surprised that if your bunny had molar spurs, the doctor would opt to clip those, even my vet said that if Mimzy developed those he’d have to go under anesthesia for the procedure, mostly because he simply won’t tolerate anyone’s fingers in his mouth.

I’d spend some quiet time with your bun this evening and just soothe her with pets and soft voices and tell her what a good bun she was today. It’s good that she’s eating/drinking/voiding normally and the extra fluids the vet gave her should help with that. Please keep an eye on her eating habits and if you notice any further distress (which she seems fully capable of communicating from what you said in your post) then a return trip may be necessary. Don’t feel bad about making your position clear on how you want your bun treated. After all, you are paying for the doctor’s service…get your money’s worth! ^_^

Please keep us updated. And I hope your bunny is back to her old self soon!

Rucy has to get her molar spurs trimmed, but I have never had it done in my presence. The vet usually sedates her and then “smoothes’ them out. I am not sure about the clipping right while you are there. That just hasn’t been the way my vet goes about it. (Rucy has had this done for he last five years) Doesn’t mean that it’s all wrong, it’s just not the procedure I am used to.

I do know that it stresses Rucy out to have her molars checked, but she does tolerate the vets finger and scope deep in her mouth which is helpful. But don’t get me wrong, she’s not happy about it by any means she just sort of chews on on the scope. The vet is quick and the whole mouth exam is less than a minute. From that exam it is determined whether she is ready to have her spurs trimmed, and then from there she gets put under and the spurs are smoothed down.

Either way though, your bunny may be a bit sore for a day, but SHOULD start eating and feeling normal again if the issues were her teeth. Keep us updated.

well, i can’t speak for the tooth procedure, but as far as lifespan, properly cared for they can live for 8-12 years, possibly up to 15. i think that vet’s lifespan was a little on the low side… he is a technically a senior already, but i wouldn’t rule him down for the count just yet…

was the tooth purring actual purring (very soft) or was it loud like grinding?

This is the hard part…trying to figure out if the noise you hear is the purring or the grinding. I still have trouble figuring Mimzy’s noises out. But odd that your bun also started making more noise of this sort after her clipping, I have the same issue with Mimzy.

I didn’t realize your bun was 8! Wow! That’s a bun who’s been around and probably is why she is more easily stressed, she knows how she wants things and any change must be a bit annoying. ^_^ But if she went through all that and seems well, I think you’re in very good shape!

I’d also watch if she scratches at her face. Mimzy went on a scratching spree last night that had me worried he was going to gouge a hole in his cheek, he was tearing at it so hard. Does she do anything like that at all or shake her ears much?

And I wonder if the louder purr (or grinding) is a result of the clipping? You said she never purred before?

Yes, Mimzy does that chattering too. I had to wonder at it when I first heard it, as I couldn’t imagine he was cold! It’s exactly the kind of sound you’d expect though, if your bunny had a chill.
Ah, so they grind the teeth with eyes open, not shut? That’s good to know. I always thought maybe it would happen no matter what position they were in at the time if it was hurting constantly. Mimzy does his mouth noises usually when he’s getting ready for a snooze.

Yes, he’s m baby, as if you couldn’t tell. ^_^ He was my first bunny, I’ve only had him a year and a half. I am looking forward to as many years with him as he cares to give me. I cannot imagine my life without him. I love Pip and Fiver as well, but Mimzy has a special place in my heart.

I think your bun sounds like she is doing well. But be sure to let your vet know (and us too) if anything else goes awry.

I’m glad you got into the vet and had the teeth done! I wouldn’t worry tooo much about it being a new vet, as I prefer someone who’s read up and up to date on newer procedures then maybe someone who’s been practicing for years and still says to give petromalt for a bunny. I think either way they can be great or not so great-my vets been practicing for only about three years but has all the newer knowledge of new procedures.

Anyways keep us posted and continued healing {{ VIBES }} for your bun! I think the age range the vet gave you is low but your bun is definitely senior. I believe Chuck is senior as he’s six years already. But the bonus is you can feed a little alfalafa again (they love it) and it helps keep weight on and gives them bit more calcium too.

I think I read that the older bunnies do tend to slim down. It may be natural if it wasn’t related to the tooth trouble.

Where did you read about the chattering? Is that so? *grin* Oh, that’s a relief because Mimzy is a constant chatterer and I worry about it all the time. If it means he’s happy, then wow! He must REALLY be happy! ^_^

It’s like living with a tiny, furry typewriter….