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Forum DIET & CARE Pine shavings

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    • DallasDelight
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        under Bunny Info>>Litterbox Training it says, and I quote, “  Don’t use any pine shavings or cedar wood shavings or any clumping litters – all very dangerous.

        I have never heard of them being bad before, may I ask what is dangerous about them(pine shavings)?


      • Deleted User
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          Dont know some fume or something I think I use them in her cage but I am gunna change once I run out


        • Kokaneeandkahlua
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            I thought the same thing when I first read it…They sell them in pet stores so I was confused.

            You know how wood chips smell really good? That nice pine or cedar smell? Well….unfortunately thats the problem with them. Bunnies have very very sensitive systems so that small amount of smell cause liver damage. When a bunny smells something (or even you too) the chemicals that make the smell get absorbed into the blood stream and have to be filtered out by their livers. Their livers weren’t made to take a beating, so being in pine or cedar shavings can cause significant damage.

            Aspen shavings are ok to use, pine and cedar not really. The best litters to use are paper litters like yesterdays news and carefreash, or feline pine is also good.


          • freiheit
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              Shavings are dusty, some more then others, cedar or pine is the wost I think. It ends up causing breathing problems in the long run, A bit like staying in an overly dusty environement tends to make us develope asma and other breathing disorder. I don’t thinkg aspen is to bad though, but the reason they sell them; they’re cheaper for cheaper budjets… and some people will priorise their sense of smell over their pet… I think they might not cause problem for other pets, so I gess they could be keeping them for the other little critters to.


            • Beka27
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                i used to use these as well, with all my small critters, but they’re bad for rabbit b/c of what K&K said, regarding the phenols. pelleted pine is okay to use tho. what kind of bedding are you using now?


              • DallasDelight
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                  WOW, I never knew. I am glad I stopped using pine! I use Corn Cob litter by Hartz, it’s really nice. 100% natural, virtually dust free, and it is unscented. I really like it, Dallas seems to too.

                  But wait, if their livers have problems processing smells like that, what about perfume? BinkyBunny.com recommends using some type of oil(I can’t remember the name) or pefume to stop a rabbit from chewing on walls and such. Can the smell from perfume hurt them?


                • Beka27
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                    oooh. corn cob is actually a very dangerous litter also. it can become impacted and cause all kinds of GI problems. i used that with my first bunny but had to switch. what other kinds of litter does your local store carry?


                  • DallasDelight
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                      oh gosh!! Well the nearest store to us that carries anything besides food is an hour away, and all they sell is pine shavings, cedar shavings and corn cob! Nearest stores after that are just over 3 hours away. Can I shred up newspaper? We don’t actually get the newspaper currently, but I am sure I can buy them for 25 cents at the store until we do get it every day. So what ARE the safe litters?


                    • Beka27
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                        this page lists them pretty clearly…. http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articles/litter.shtml


                      • DallasDelight
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                          Sweet, thank you!


                        • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                            Shredded newsprint will work in a pinch, or if you don’t mind changing a bit more frequently -it can be your regular litter

                            Defo dump the corncob litter though


                          • Beka27
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                              depending on where you live, you can use horse bedding also, so if you’re in a rural area, that might work out better. it is also dirt cheap which is an added bonus!

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