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    • Hannah
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        So, sorry I’ve been AWOL! This first month or so of settling back in at home has been more hectic than I expected. I’ve also been trying to bond Humphrey and Perry, and seriously– there’s going to be bunny soup sometime in the near future if they don’t start showing some sort of consistent behavior.

        When I brought them together for a first date, it was totally love at first sight– mutual grooming and flopping, food sharing, etc– and now that I’ve brought them home suddenly they’re acting completely different! And it’s not like it’s all fighting– the big issue is that they act totally inconsistently and give each other the wrong body language and REALLY mixed signals.

        They’re okay in the bathtub, most of the time– Perry tries to bite Humphrey a little but for the most part there’s not a lot of actual fighting because Humphrey is too terrified of the tub to move. However, Perry will also lick Humphrey in the bathtub even though he’s definately the dominant bunny and very aggresive when it comes to attention (he bites anyone if they stop petting him, so it surprised me that he’s the licker– particularly since at their first meeting Humphrey was the more affectionate one.) It’s almost like he realizes Humphrey’s scared and is like… “There, there, big scardey rabbit.” When there is actual fighting, it’s usually because Humphrey does something like boxes Perry on the head, and then Perry will take a nice mouthful of his fur. But then Perry will just flop and watch Humphrey or something, and show no signs of agression, and then they’ll groom themselves at the same time or something.

        On my mom’s bed (I.E., the family couch because we don’t understand furniture) they’re also more or less okay– they ignore each other as long as we keep petting them. They’re actually showing some progress there; the first few times we did it they fought, but last night we thought there was going to be an altercation, but then they just sort of walked away from each other. They also do a LOT of flopping at the same time and washing themselves at the same time here.

        In an X-Pen in the kitchen, however, they fought a LOT– circling, fur in Perry’s mouth, Humphrey bopping Perry on the head, etc– so they haven’t ben back there in a long time.

        In their cages, which are pressed together, they coexist very happily, and will often lay side by side through the bars, and do lots of activities (flopping, eating, cleaning, etc) at the same time. They also are in close enough proximity that they could easily chomp each other’s noses, but they don’t try at all. They show absolutely no aggression.

        Unfortunately, I can’t try cage switching, because Perry is a dwarf rabbit and Humphrey is a 7+lbs, so Perry’s cage is too small for Humphrey. (They’ll eventually be living together in the X-Pen, so Perry’s cage is not a permanent solution for anyone)

        I’m awfully confused with these two, because they’re not consistently fighting OR being nice to each other– they’re giving totally mixed signals and I don’t know what to do. o___O

        Any suggestions?

        (also, this is them in the tub–)

        http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/HJSoulma/?action=view&current=DSC00020.jpg

        http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/HJSoulma/?action=view&current=DSC00031.jpg

        http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/HJSoulma/?action=view&current=DSC00030.jpg

         

        (yes, we do have a horrible mauve bathtub…)


      • MarkBun
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          Have you tried putting them into the same carrier and taking them for a car ride or sitting the carrier on top of a dryer while it’s working?  They might need a little ‘scare bonding’ at this point.  It sounds like it is a regular bonding process is going on so just an FYI, it isn’t going bad.  Sometimes it can take months to bond.  Even if they’re being inconsistent, it is important that you remain so.  You need to try to extert your ‘dominance’ on them so they know that you won’t let that stuff go on.  Push their heads down with your hand when they act up, hold them there for a few seconds.

           


        • Hannah
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            Hi Markus! Okay, I’m feeling better knowing that inconsistency is okay– I was thinking my rabbits were socially retarded or something. And I’ll probably try the dryer; I can’t think of a good way to drive and watch rabbits at the same time. I can rope my mom into driving me around, but my car gets much better mileage than hers and with the price of gas these days…

            And yeah, they’ve been better since I started being firmer with them. Humphrey is pretty well trained to know that when I clap I mean NO, and Perry is learning quickly. Thanks for the support!


          • Beka27
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              i hvae a couple threads in the lounge section (washer something or other and getting another bunny)

              we got another bunny so i’m doing the bonding thing right now. i’ve gotten great advice over there. i did the washer thing to stress them out… and well… you can read about it over there if you want.


            • Hannah
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                I saw that post! They looked so confused in the basket. I giggled.

                However, bonding as far as anything that might be too stressful is sort of on hold right now; we’re in a 90+ degree heat wave around here and our house is really old so we don’t have AC– the poor things are stressed enough. (Especially the chinchilla– MA’s south shore is a bad place for animals from the Andes mountains.) The only room in the house with the right kind of window to put in a window AC is, thankfully, the animal room, so they’re okay as long as they’re in there, but the rest of the house is pretty hot.

                It’s too bad bunnies don’t like going swimming! We could go bond in a cold bath.


              • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                  Yes, on hold with the heat sounds like a good idea. I think it’s quite promising that they don’t fight through the cages, I really do. I’d have to agree, car rides and drier rides are like miraculous!!! You can also stress them with the vaccum. Or you could take them for a car ride, seperate so you can go on your own, then go to a petstore, like the kid part of the cart (you know the top part of the shopping cart) with a towel, plop em both in and cruise the store. That’s stressful enough they probably won’t fight at all. And you get lots of attention bringing bunnies in a store LOL


                • Hannah
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                    Oh my goodness, K&K, I totally have to do that! Bunnies in a carriage would be amazing. (and air conditioned!) I’ll be doing the other two too, once the heat lets up a little. However, the vaccuum won’t work for these two– it doesn’t bother either of them, which I find utterly bizzarre. Humphrey isn’t afraid of any sounds other than dogs howling (we learned THAT lesson watching Animal Planet) and Perry seems to be the same way. But I’m glad to hear you think their caged behavior is good. I keep having to tell my mom that just because they fight doesn’t mean they’ll never get along– she’d have given up after the first session. >__<;;; But yeah, I totally want to take them for a ride somewhere now.


                  • MarkBun
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                      If you have a carrier big enough for both of them (a top-loading one works wonders for this), put them both in the same carrier and take them for a car ride. You may think putting them into such small quarters means a lot of bloodshed but simply rocking or shaking the carrier stops fighting immediately. I felt the same way about not being able to keep an eye on them AND the road at the same time, but they were too freaked out about the carrier and the car to care about one another. In fact, it was during these car rides that I would catch Dono grooming Maryann and she’d let him. There was twice that a scuffle started but all I did was rock the carrier back and forth twice and they stopped.

                      You can try out whether or not this will work for you at home by putting them both in the same carrier and then picking it up and shaking it (and when I say ‘shake’ I mean a gentle rocking back and forth). Walk around the place a little bit while carrying them. See if they’re more interested in what the heck is going on than each other.


                    • Hannah
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                        Thanks, Markus. I assumed that for the car ride thing you were supposed to be like, keeping an eye on them in the backseat or something. I think Humphrey’s carrier is big enough for two (it’s techically a dog carrier– emergency purchase), but it’s front loading. Also, Humphrey is very comfortable in the car and in the carrier– he came back and forth from college with me every other weekend this past year. He even flops in the carrier! Do you think it’ll be okay even so? He probably still wouldn’t like being shaken…

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