(((((((((pepper)))))))))  no experience to share… sorry wendyzski.  i even have to go & look up what it is.  wanted to let you know that my furry friends & i are sending lots of healing vibes your way!

{{{{ Pepper }}}}

Thankfully, I have not had to deal with Pasteurella.  It is one of those strange ilnesses where a large number of rabbits carry the infection, but only a few manifest a disease because of it.  Poor Pepper, I know how much she likes meds.  When I see Auntie Heather on Saturday I’ll try to remember to ask her about it.

Sorry to hear about your bunnies illness. I recently had a Pasteurella scare when I brought my new girl Olivia home. Luckily, her culture came back negative.

I did a lot of research on the subject when I thought she had it and some of it seems really scary but my vet said it’s not the terrible epidemic disease it’s often thought to be. I’m sorry but I don’t remember any of these sites, I just found them via search engines.

What I do know is these bunnies can live very happy, normal, healthy lives. You just need to take some protective measures if you have other buns in your household. The disease is spread via any type of discharge. I also read that the best way to keep your pasteurella bunny healthy is to develop a routine and avoid stress as this often causes the negative symptoms to appear.

Hope this helps and **hugs**. I know this must be hard but I”m sure you two will make out fine!

I’m sorry to hear about this. I don’t know much about it. Is this snuffles?

I’ve cared for and had a few.

What is important to realize that they are only a problem to other rabbits when they are symptomatic.

Alot of the cure for this is a clean, stress-free environment which you are providing for her. Make sure you take all antibiotics prescribed to her religiously. I take it you did a culture – was there anything else present? I would ask what else other than Baytril it has a sensitivity too – you want to be very aggressive with this – it will never “go away” though.

I’ve used chloramphenicol for many different things w/rabbits.

Are you getting oral or injectible?

Oral has an extremely bitter taste and you need to be careful handling this as it can cause anemia in humans which is why they do not sell this for humans or “livestock” any longer. I recommend if you do it orally you get it compounded with a pleasant flavor otherwise do it injetible.

This is used for a wide variety of ailments in rabbits – it’s good stuff in my opinion, better than baytril which is overused in my opinion.

Poor Pepper – I hope she gets better really fast.

I don’t have any personal experience with pasteurella but I do know that sometimes one course of baytril is not enough. Sometimes they need to be on it for up to 3 months to really nip it in the butt. And starting and stopping an antibiotic will make the body immune to it so continuous treatment is key. So don’t give up on the baytril just yet….

Poor Pepper! 

Some places to start for research:

http://homepage.mac.com/mattocks/morfz/rabrefs.html#past

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/index_en.htm

 Dana Krempels repsonses with links to pertinent articles

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/7-month-old-rabbit.htm 

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/head-tilt-unable.htm

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/Rabbit-dose.htm

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/Pasteurella.htm

I do want to say that you need to be careful you don’t over research – you may only frighten yourself for no reason. Best to make sure that you discuss any concerns with your vet or any research that may concern you with the vet. That being said, I do think research is good so that you may discuss this with the vet.

If you are worried about the weight loss, discuss with your vet if it would be OK to include some alfalfa hay in her diet.  This is higher calorie, and it seems to be tastier too, it may encourage her to eat more.

Hi

My Gerald had pasteurella (not multocida).  He was on trimethoprim-sulfa (oral) twice a day, for a month.  Just finished his medication about a week ago and he is doing much better.  (He wouldn’t take it from the syringe, so I mashed it up in some banana, which he loved).  I think he had pasteurella last year too (symptoms were the same), but we didn’t have it cultured last year.

Gerald symptoms were: runny nose & eye, sneezing, wet/dirty front paws, and not eating much.

Cinnamon developed 3 abscesses in his head a few months after we got him, which were lanced and drained, never cultured, that was probably pasteurella too.  He was on antibiotic injections for a year.  He is doing great now.

Other buns haven’t gotten it.  I believe there are different types of pasteurella. Hope this helped!

Laura

Sorry Wedyz & Pepper.  I hope that the Pepper starts to feel better soon!

It actually looks like you have received some great advice, and so i am sending over healing vibes for Pepper and peace vibes to you! I know it’s so hard to deal with this, especially when it is something you have to keep up to date on as new treatments come and go.

Please keep us updated, and again happy, stress-free healing vibes comin’ your way!

((vibes for Pepper))!!!

poor Pepper! i’m glad you’re doing what you can to help her out. i don’t know anything about this, but i know she is still going to have a wonderful life with you!

So glad she is doing better!

That’s good news Mimz! Continued positive ***vibes*** for you, Pepper and the rest of your family!

Sending lots of good wishes and healing to Pepper. I am so glad you took out the VPI plan for her!

Yay Pepper!  Happy to hear she is feeling better.  I am glad she is liking the alfalfa hay, hopefully it will help her put on a little weight and recover more quickly.

That’s wonderful news! Thank you for the update.

Oh my goodness just found this!! I’m so sorry she’s not feeling well, but Wonderful news in your last post, about her doing better!! **VIBES**

YAY! BINKIES! Thats so great! She must be feeling sooo much better I’m so glad to hear she’s returning back to her normal eating habits as well. You’ll probably get quite a protest when you don’t have to put alfalfa in her hay anymore. How are the poops doing? I think that in addition to the antibiotic, its probably just the new things in her diet like the alfalfa and the treats that you mix the antibiotic in that are giving her some variation in her poops.

Yahoo!! I am so glad to hear that she is feeling better. It is not abnormal for poops to get whacky while on meds, but be sure to let your vet know though about this and just keep and keep an eye on it.

I am so glad to hear that for the most part she is doing well and hope the smaller poops are just due to the meds.

a binky… oh thats awesome!!!   i’m glad that she has improved so much

pinky’s poops were like what you described the day after her spay when i took her home and i assumed they were from the meds / surgery because they were looking normal the very next day.  she was a bit of an anomaly tho since she ate with gusto as soon as she got home & i’m sure thats why the poops returned to normal. 

have pepper’s poops gotten better now that she’s back to normal eating habits?

I’m glad Pepper is getting better. The chloramphenicol is a really good stuff (for animals).

Let us know what the vet says.

Oh good, I am glad she feeling better. Bratty Binky Girl sounds like she’s on her way to back to healthy!

My tommy has it too. It was diagnosed as the snuffles, which I thought was the cutest sounding disease ever! However, it isn’t a ‘cute’ condition, but not as scary as they make out. MOST bunnies WILL have the bacteria and test positive, it doesn’t get out of hand in all bunnies though. He will always have it, and in times of stress it will come back. Just keep doing what you’re doing. I would like to share some tips that have helped me so far. My vet says he is one of the healthiest bunnies he has seen with the condition. Probiotic I put in the water acording to instructions and antibiotics he will only take when soaked into a tiny piece of bread. Plenty of greens, or I pull up some long grasses on my way home from work, wich he really enjoys, and lastly I keep a very clean cage. I have put a guard on his litter tray to stop him digging in his poo poos! I give him foot baths ocasionally to remove foot gunk that he uses to clean his face but try to keep this short and stressfree if you have to do it. The vet says a little olbas oil or vicks vapo somewhere helps to ease congestion. Not too much as you don’t want to damage his sensitive nose. I put a couple of drops on his carpet, where he will happily sit and sleep. Hope this helps

I’m glad she’s better.

Bunnylugs gave some very good advice too. It is a matter of a stress-free life and clean living area – they will always have pasturella if they’ve tested positive for it.

Yay Pepper!  Glad to hear the loppie diva is back to her old self.  Does this illness mean that she cannot now go anyplace other buns go, like to the Red Door spa or the vet’s office?

That’s great news!

you are so great! thank goodness she has you to take care of her!