I know, my poor baby! Well, this is most rabbit savvy vet I could find, I have already been through three and unfortunately my first vet is no longer seeing exotics and my second vet said that their sniffles was because of dust!!!

I am hopeing that the vet I saw at work sees exotics, i.e. rabbits, because she sounded like she knew what she was doing. My current vet does, however know the common sideffects of different things in rabbits and he works on a lot of rabbits so I am no one to tell him how to do his job but there are just a few things he is kinda du dutu on. He was giving my buns baytril for everything like thier URI’s and her surgery but Cinnabon still has his URI and just thursday, I told the vet they needed different antibiotics because this Baytril is obviously not working. I told him about Ciprofloxacin and he gave me a prescription but it is hard and expensive to fill, nonetheless, I have to fill it tomorrow morning.

Otherwise, I have not found a very rabbit savvy vet in el paso, He is by far the only one I have heard of. There is only one thing I didnt like him doing. During this current surgery to extract the teeth, he took out the bone cement antibiotic balls placed in her mouth by my  first vet about two years ago. He said he had never seen them before and he thought they shouldnt be there. I researched them and told him exactly what they were and I will tell him tomorrow that I want him to put some in the first surgery from two years ago and now, in the newer surgeries because they obviously worked very well. I had no prob with Lola and that old abscess ever since. If anyone knows the name of those antibiotic balls that would help me a lot for my meeting tomorrow with the vet.

Looking at all that my current vet is doing, I would much rather take the first vet I had but she no longer sees exotics. I will call first thing in the morning tho because maybe she can make an exception but she was a little rude and did another surgery without permission. I feel she had more knowledge of what to do but really took advantage of her clients financially.

This abscess will be recurring but I have found a lot of information to show my vet tomorrow and I will tell him I want those beads put into her newer abscess area. They worked last time and I know they will work again. If he doesnt do anything, I will hopefully be able to take her to Dr. Harvey, the one that put the balls in and see if she could just drain the abscess again and put those balls in again. This is so upsetting.

Thanks for all the help though, I really appreciate it. Even though I am still in the dim light about all the problems with buns, you all help me a great deal.

Oh, thats funny! I looked from the rabbit house society website and they only have two vets in El paso listed so I will try the one closest to me tomorrow. One is like thirty minutes away and the other is about an hour or more away.

Unfortunately, I really liked my current vet because he was very open to my research about stuff for the buns.

Ok, well I took her in this morning to her current vet and gave him information about the ball things. He went ahead and drained the area again and took out the lining wall because of the little holes the abscess created. It turns out, it had eaten a little bit of her bone and he filled it with antibiotic. I called all the vets in this area and Dr. Harvey is still seeing rabbits however, she is completely booked today and tomorrow. I consider this an emergency now. My poor bun!

Anyways, so I was referred to another clinic and the doctor over there told me that she does not recommend putting in those antibiotic balls and she can do them but wont because of this. I dont know why but that is what she said. So I called back Dr. Harvey and she reffered me, yet again, to the emergency clinic and told me to see a specific person. I think I am going to do this today because I am so worried for Lola. Her breathing has not come to normal after the anasthesia and she looks like she is in immense pain, I would be. She doesnt want to move and she tries to lick her paws but has to stop herself. The antibiotics prescribed will be ready later on tonight. Should I trust the vet who doesnt belive the antibiotic balls are the best solution?

If I take her to that vet, they can see her right away. If I go to the emergency clinic, I need to go at 5:30 because they dont open until 5:30pm, in about seven hours. Im afraid to have her eat because this morning, our vet said there is a passage way from the abcess area to her mouth.

HELP!

ok, now I am really freaking out. The rabbit savvy vet at the emercency hospital is not in until thursday and they wont call him in. I am trying to get Dr. Harvey to see her today but they are not being flexible (this is what i kinda didnt like with them before). When she breathes, which is normal now, it sounds like there is water stuck in her nostrils. Like if there was water stuck up our nose but it was too thick to blow out or swallow. I dont know if I should be afraid.

Ok, well, I spoke to Dr. Harvey and she told me to go deal with the problem and she said that since my father left her practice last year she doesnt care if Lola dies tonight. How rude is that!

So, my best vet rescourse really could care less about the creatures she sees. There is only one vet that I would be able to trust other than my current vet and he only works in the emergency vet hospital on thursdays and sundays. The other three on the east side will absolutely not use the antibiotic beads and my current vet is not in lieu of the seriousness of this abscess and will do his best to insert the bicillin beads. It will be his first time tho and I dont want it to be on Lola. I have no earthly idea what to do but just hope that Dr. Harvey is willing to teach my current vet how to so this surgery. That was the least she offered.

She looks pretty bad but her will to be happy is strong!!!

Really, well, I wish I lived there too. I dont know if it is possible but is there any way you can ask you vet to call me or perhaps my vet to help us out.

Im worried about her eyes now because the area that the abscess was removed was under her eye and my vet took out the infected skin. Now, tho, there is a pocket, of course he put antibiotic into it but there is some blood stuck around there in her nose and it is also draining through her tear ducts. Dr. Lenox, her vet, says this is normal because all of those different things are in the same area. Now I also have to worry about her eyes and the skin around them to get scal or burn. Like when humans cry too much how the part around the eyes are raw. I know there is something for that tho but I just cant find it online.

I feel really alone in this because I dont have any other resource but Dr. Lenox and members are getting me scared about him.

She has not defecated or urinated for about 12 or more hours

ok, her gums are pink and she ate about two hours ago, although very little, I force fed her baby food and left out some timothy pellets and gave her a mountain of greens. She seemed very excited and ran to the greens, ate some but not like usual. I did give her ciprofloxacin about two and a half hours ago.

I just noticed she defecated and urinated. I massaged her abdomen and then placed her in the litter box. I did the old fashioned trick where you trickle water in front of a person. I just did this near her ear and she wanted me to stop but i kept doing it and then I noticed she peed. I also noticed she now has new pooplets but not many.

Well, I do have a syringe, I actually have several but I was not given critical care. I will try the pellet thing, I tried it last time she had jaw surgery and It gave me a hard time but Lets do it again.

She looks depressed this morning and I dont see any new pooplets or urine so I know she hasnt really eaten all night. I gave her fresh hay and sat her in front of it last night and she ate like three twig things but at least she is trying. This morning, after giving her a plate of food, I notice she is eating apples only, ever since yesterday so her mouth is probably hurting. She got her antibiotics and jumps around a little but only to run away from Cinnabon. I have a pain med that Dr. Lenox gave me but I will give it to her in a few hours.

She is pooping and peeing again. I guess since she eats so little, she only does it right after she eats or something. The pellets are thick and wont dissolve so it is soupy enough to get into the syringe. I have an idea of where to go so I can get a bigger pet syringe so I will head there. I have to study today for a final and I have to work so I wish i could but I cant stay with her all day and feed her like every three or four hours. I am thinking of buying a malt for hairballs and maybe incorporating that into the pellets. I will also try to find an apple flavor food to incorporate also so she likes it. Or maybe I will just use applejuice (fresh from our juice maker). Well, until later, I think this is all I can do. I will leave instructions for my father so that when he gets home, he can feed her and make sure Cinnabon is not chasing her.

Cinnabon goes after her and she runs away, should I keep them seperate until my father gets home?

ok, sounds like an item I need to add to my list for today. We only have pie filling so that wont help. Can I mix this with pellet mush or just give to her by itself?

ok, sounds good.

That sounds very twisted but I understand why. I will wait until someone says yay or nay on that one. That does sound like a good idea.

I just got home. She is playful, eating a lot (according to my father), and using the lovely restroom. I got her mint and before she liked it but today she kinda snuffed her nose at it. I like to see that she is now looking for attention from Cinnabon instead of staying away from him. She looks good.

I have a question about the stuff that has happened to her. She had two teeth extracted a week or so ago and on thursday, the abscess pus was drained through the skin under her eye. Her skin swelled a lot and I took her in again. On monday, Dr. Lenox went in and took out more pus, a little thicker than cheese-like. He put in an antibiotic again and her face is not swelling as much or at all this time. This time, however, he removed some of the tissue containing the fingerlike abscess infections. I need to take her in tomorrow but I want to know if she needs to go into another surgery or if I can just keep her on antibiotics. I want to try the process I found in an article where you inject the Bicillin for like three months or more instead of the beads. According to this process, Dr. Lenox only needs to completely remove the abscess, which he has done, and then we continue with medicine.

If he wants to drain the area again and reinject with antibiotic, does he really have to or should I tell him not to? She just got better and I know this is a greuling process but I dont want her to have more pain than she should and I definately dont want her to have too much pain because that causes problems too.

She is taking Ciprofloxacin twice daily and a pain med. I found a link to where to get the penicillin G something, aka Bicillin. What should I tell Dr. Lenox tomorrow.

He is fixed now on doing the beads thing but I dont want Lola to be the first patient he performs this on and If this other way works just as well, i dont mind working a little harder. I want to tell him that either he or I will get the bicillin med and he can show me how to inject it properly. Training in other words… What do you all think?

Ok, great. So there is nothing i should feel guilty about so far. I have been giving her baby food and i got pumkin yesterday. She is doing better. She got another penicillin shot this morning.

I just wanted to clear this up about the cillin part. Bicillin is actually penicillin G something. Its not an actual drug other than penicillin.

The vet said she looks better and gave me a handful of shots for her. He showed me how to administer but on Friday’s appointment, I will have him do it and I will record it or something just to help me out and allow me to grasp the full concept without messing up. I had to anminister a shot a few months ago so, I am not so nervous to give these shots.

Thanks for the tip about the pain meds. I never actually ran into any articles or anything that specifically said to wait until the bun ate to administer them. That is good to know. Dr. Lenox didnt do any surgery today but on Friday he will again flush the area with saline and drain it again. He is also going to see if there is any pus trying to drain into the mouth from where the teeth were pulled. He said since he already took out the infected tissue (with the fingers in it) the hard part is over and we just have to do the post surgery stuff. She is happy tho and she is running around more so at least she feels better.

Well, she is doing better. she is now flopping to the ground to lie down. She is scared of me though…she thinks im taking her to the vet again. she looks better but friday. Dr. Lenox is going into her face one more time to wash it out with saline and then at last, close it up for good. I will have to administer shots tho but its for a good reason.

She is such a positive bunny so she is healing all by herself…Im just the waterboy!!! hehe

She has been much better. The vet said she looked so good he didnt need to go in again. He removed the sutures on her face so her skin in healing. Her eyes are very teary and she has discharge around them but Dr. Lenox said that was because he worked so closely to her nasal cavity and tear duct that while the wound heals, that will happen. It was natural. No I just have to give her the shots every other day. Tomorrow will be the first time i do it without my vet in sight. My family was over today and she was running around like crazy.

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There is only one thing I am curious about… her stiched area on her face has some little white and orange-ish spots. They feel kinda like scabs. Should I worry that they are infections or no? Does this look normal? You cant really see it but those orange spots on the pink skin part is what I am talking about.

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Yeah, I called him today and he said that they are just scabbing. there is a liquid I can buy at a pet store, and I have seen it, specific for rabbits and wounds. It helps keep it clean. He said I is in a blue bottle. I might just get that just in case. Otherwise, she looks ok and he said it is just scabbing. Its not like a pus, its like a hard layer on the skin…exactly like a scab. I just was not sure. Thanks.

http://www.bunnyrabbit.com/price/medicate.htm

this is a great website for health products and treatment of these products for different cases. Check it out.
The wound stuff is on this web page…its called Peters Rabbit Wound Aid.

Lola is doing much better, her face is not swollen or puffy or squishy. she does well with the shots but does squirm afterwards. Now Cinnabon is not eating to well, he is acting weird.

ok, he is eating just not as much as normal. his poops are looking perfect, not to wet and very hayish. he is just not eating the hard treats, aka the veggie smaks, as he normally does so i am hopeing it is not something with his teeth. from the outside, his teeth and jaw feel fine, not weird bumps or long feeling teeth.

Lola is still doing well.

Update… Sorry, i didnt have internet for a little while… Cinnabon is getting better… He eats a lot now. I think maybe he was just a little depressed because Lola was depressed for a little. He is a happy bun and Lola is doing well. She HATES her shots but there has been no swelling or newly found bumps so I think she is progressing very well.