Vibes for Olivia – let us know what the vet says.

Don’t get yourself all scared now – you do not know that is what she has and you won’t know unless you do a culture.

My understanding is that many many (if not all) rabbits have Pasturella and it does not necessarily mean that they will become symptomatic if they do carry it.

Many times rabbits become symptomatic during periods of stress and if they have been living in less than healthy conditions. Good vet care, keeping the rabbit unstressed and healthy and their areas clean can help greatly reduce the symptoms.

As long as you wash your hands after caring for Olivia while she is symptomatic and before you care for your other rabbits everything will be fine.

I’ve had a rabbit that was cultured with Pasturella and Pseudonomas and none of my other rabbits got sick from him. He got adopted into a lovely home even and the new owners knew he had been diagnosed with this.

And at this point, you don’t know what is wrong with her so just wait until you talk to the vet – everything will be fine!

oh dear… yes, that’s the prob with trying to arm yourself with info.  it’s great to be informed BUT you can get yourself in a whirl of possible diagnoses and needless worry.  try not to get too far ahead… wait for the vet’s feedback & let us know how it goes.  (((vibes)))

Oh I know about reading too much too.  I can read myself into a disease (with Edson) that never is!  I was sure Edson had Diabetes Insipidus but he doesn’t.  I think he is just a psycho water drinker! Just try and relax until you find out for sure and let us knw.  Good luck!!!!!

Is that not curable with antibiotics?  It’s not Pasturella then? I’m confused where has she been staying if you say you can’t bring her home?

Can they do tests to tell 100% if it’s Pasturella?  There’s still a 25% chance it’s not.  I’m so sorry you are dealing with this. Hopefully someone here who has been through this can advise you. I’m useless but maybe just maybe it’s not that.  I know how devastated and depressed I was when the vet told me he thought Edson possibly had diabetes insipidus and of course I had convinced myself he did after reading all the symptoms. Then Dana Krempels gave me some hope that he was just a psychological drinker.  I’m the one who has a rabbit that drinks 48-60 oz of water a day. I firmly believe NOW that this is true.  You may want to run this by Dana – she’s not a vet but she’s on the cutting edge of rabbit knowledge.  She’s a PhD at the University of Miami, Biology Dept. http://www.allexperts.com She may give you another perspective.  It’s worth a shot.

You can also reach Dana at dana@miami.edu

Yes, they can do a culture and sensitivity test. Really that is the correct thing for a vet to do. There are other bacterias besides pasturella that cause infection.

I had a rabbit who cultured Pasturella and Pseudonomas and none of my other rabbits got infected from him.

oh poor olivia.  good thing she’s going to get better – even if it’s just the symptoms.  she’ll be so much happier.  i don’t know much about pasterella at all, but at least you know from sarita that even if it is pasteralla, it can be handled / treated while not passing onto your other bun buns.  oh boy… i’m sure this is very very stressful for you.  (((hugs)))

Oh man Puffy!! This stinks!! Poor Olivia!

I’m crossing everything that Olivia gets better and your buns don’t get anything!! I know I was really worried when I brought Kahlua home and then when I brought Rupert home that they might bring something in and hurt my Kokanee. It’s so hard to disinfect everything, impossible really.

Don’t blame yourself, you’ve done good and I’m sure it will be fine. We’re all pulling for you so it’ll have to be fine Ok? *HUGS*

LilPuffyTail – I’m so sorry.  I know that must have you quite upset.   I actually found an answer by Dana from a previous pasteurella question.   The answer Dana gives actually addresses many of your current questions and concerns.  It is worth checking out http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/Pasteurella.htm

She also posts this link http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/culture.html and expresses how important it is to really know for sure if it is pasteurella – be sure to read the whole article – very informative!  It didn’t seem like the getting the culture should be sooo arduous.   Do you trust your current vet?

Oh my, I would not put her down, that would be an extreme thing to do – this can be treated and controlled so there is absolutely no need to do this. As I’ve said before and as Dana has stated in her article – this is not something to be alarmed about and these rabbits can live good healthy lives. You may have to be more diligent in making sure she takes all her prescribed medicine and that she lead a stress free life and healthy life.

As for baytril – this is a pretty common drug for rabbits and hopefully it will work for her.

I’m glad you are getting the culture – it very well could be that she does have pasturella but at least you will know and there are other drugs other than baytril that pasturella is sensitive too.

Do I think you are putting your rabbits at risk – no I don’t. I think you are stressing yourself out though and you need not do this :~)

Listen I totally undertand your panic. I felt the same way until I felt there was some hope that Edson did not have what they suspected he might. Dana has great advice and so does Sarita so I think you have to try and not stress about the unknown right now. It’s not good for you or the bunny. I’m sure she can sense your panic. Just slow down and take one step at a time. I know this is easier said than done. If your bf is willing to help out take him up on it. That’s wonderful. Take care of yourself!

Let us know what Dana says – I hope she eases your fears.

No, the SPCA wouldn’t culture for anything – it’s too expensive. Everytime you purchase or adopt an animal you are taking a chance – that is why it is recommended to have a thorough vet check-up and quarantine the animal for 30 days. I think alot of the information on pasturella is old fashioned and alot is taken from breeders who just didn’t treat the problem and would just “cull the herd” for any problem – I don’t think that is the case now though as many good breeders want to address these issues and make sure that their rabbits are healthy.

Even a rabbit who has pasturella may not be symptomatic – once it’s treated and their environment is stable and healthy – they can live healthy lives.

Another good source is Kathy Smith – she is krsbunny (I think) on the forum. She wrote “Rabbit Health in the 21st Century”.

i didn’t read this thread before. i’m sorry to hear you’re having to go thru all of this stress. keep us posted on how she is and how the culture goes.

(((((((((((((((Olivia)))))))))))))))

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I have no experience with Pasteurella, I just hope that she (and you!) feel better soon.

Please know that you and Olivia are in our bunny prayers and lots of noserubs go out to you both. (((((((((((LPT & Olli)))))))))))))))))))
It’s going to be alright. Deep, cleansing breaths! ^^

LittlePuffyTail – I think you just need to take a minute to *breathe* I worked at a shelter with a pastuerella bunny and there is absolutely nothing that requires the amount of fear that you are putting yourself through! The pastuerella bun just had a separate cage but was still in the same room as the other buns, we just washed our hands after taking care of him. The bunny realy doesn’t even ned to be at your mom’s house, a separate room in your house is fine, just wash your hands, or change you clothes if you are spending a lot of time playing with your bunny.

I had two foster bunnies with horrible upper respiratory infections, and the Baytril cleared it up in the 7 days, I don’t see any reason for panic, you and your buns and Olivia will be just fine