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Forum THE LOUNGE Update on the Buns in small cages

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    • xnovalentine
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        For those of you who read my other post about the 2 buns at a pet store in small cages, I went in again today. They are still there. However, the cages are bigger, but they are still small and it broke my heart.

        I will talk to Nick tonight about the possiblity of bringing one home so perhaps the other bun will get bought quickly and be able to be in the larger area, However, when I was looking at the buns they both had dewlaps (sp?), which indicates they are female. I know its much harder to bond 2 females, so this will also be a challenge. Also, the email the manager of the store sent to me after I left a message at the store said that these rabbits didn’t get along with the others, which also indicates that the bun will be difficult in itself to bond with Lullabelle. Not to mention the grandiose additute my bun has.

        And as last time, I am considering the support of pet stores. Purchasing one of these buns would be doing just that, but i feel that even though they are in a petstore they don’t deserve being stuck in a small box, and If i could get nick to agree, I would get at least one out.

        So that leaves me with the pros and cons of the sitauation.

        Pros: Lullabelle has been lonely, and I wanted to get her a friend anyway, the bun would be out of its box and in a loving home

        Cons: Nick won’t like the idea, finanial burden (its not really that big of a deal), risk of not getting along with each other

        I guess the pros are stronger than the cons. Its only getting Nick to agree to it. I am afraid to ask him, I’m sure it will start an argument. I’m stubborn enough to bring one home regardless of him agreeing to it.

        One bun is black with brown spots, I can’t think of the breed at the moment, and the other looks just like Lullabelle except it has a white spot on her ear. I think it would be funny to have another bun look like lulla, but I’d also like to mix it up a bit, it really doesnt matter. If i do go and get the bun, I plan to ask which one was more of a problem, and hopefully me taking that one will allow the other one become less aggresive and be able to be in the main “tank”.

         

        *sigh* i feel sick, I left them there for a month without checking back. I’m glad they are in bigger cages though, they were able to stretch out.

        What do you guys think?


      • Gravehearted
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          I feel conflicted too – since the bunnies are not having a very good life in the pet store. However… I don’t like the idea of supporting stores who sell pets – because if you buy one, they’ll simply order another one and the cycle continues. From your other post, it really doesn’t sound like now would be a good time to bring another bunny into the house – do the already issues going on with Nick and feeling like you don’t have as much time to spend with Lulla. You’re right – bonding two girls is tough and you’d also need to have the store bunny spayed before you could even think about bonding them. Since your time is already so limited, you’d need to divide it further to spend time with both bunnies and bonding is also very time consuming. I know you are kind hearted and really wish to help the store bunnies, but it just doesn’t seem like it’s a great idea right now for you or Lulla.


        • JK
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            Well it is heartbreaking.  I have said this in prior posts but there is a bun in a local pet store here that is in the same situation.  Too small of a cage, been there since July, not getting hay.  I feel he needs rescuing too.  I know supporting the pet store is BAD BUT I feel the same as you.  I would want to get one of those two buns outta there.  As far as them not getting along with others?  Look at their situation.  Cooped up in a tiny cage – I would be grumpy too.  I don’t think you can really tell from that situation what their true personalities are.  Many rabbits at the rescue where I got Edson also had that stigma and turned out to be incredibly wonderful buns.  They just never get a chance to develop their personalities in prison.  Go with your gut.  Nick will get over it.  Yeah he might be mad but that wouldn’t stop me!  And maybe Lulla love the company, who knows.


          • xnovalentine
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              well, these buns are at the pet store who have agreed to stop selling rabbits, and fortunently these buns are already spayed/neutered. So this makes it even more tempting. The manager told me in his letter that once these buns are gone, they arent getting anymore. There are 4 buns in the store. 2 in the large “tank” and 2 in the small cages (seperated). I know i need to think about it, but I also know the more time I think about it the more time they stay in those, as knowltons put it, prisons. *sigh* i hate being such a pushover.


            • JK
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                Are they really spayed?  Most pet stores seem to lie about this.  If so,  that would be great.  Why do these dang pet stores even sell rabbits!  They just can’t be that profitable since they seem to be there for months on end.


              • Beka27
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                  how much are they selling the bunnies for?  i wonder how old they are if they’ve truly been spayed.  and if they’ve developed a dewlap, that usually doesn’t happen (as i understand it) if they have been spayed.  BEFORE “rescuing” one of those buns, i would ask to see paperwork (and get a copy) from the vet that spayed her.  at least this way you could pursue legal action if it turned out to be false.  they should not be able to be getting away with this crap of selling unaltered bunnies as spayed.


                • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                    *nods head* I know that’s what this petstore is saying it was doing, trying out a pilot program of selling spayed/neutered dwarf rabbits…But I feel in my gut these rabbits are not fixed. Let us know what they say about providing this paperwork!!


                  • xnovalentine
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                      i know my friend purchased her bun from this particular store, and she got a certificate signed by the vet stating that he was neutered. i havnt yet had a chance to talk to nick about it, he was in a bad mood last night so I thought it best to wait until hes not being a big grump. I still am back and forth on whether i should even get one. I’m just worried about bonding and agression, things like that. The buns are $99, but thats not really a big deal. agh, i hate this 

                       

                       


                    • Beka27
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                        i am glad to hear that the buns are that expensive.  that means pretty certainly that they are altered.  if they’re selling them for 20 or 30 bucks and saying they are altered… they’re lying.  for 100 bucks you’re paying about 10 dollars for the bun and 90 for the surgery.  the second problem… there is also the consideration if the surgery was done correctly… 


                      • kimberleyanddarren
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                          if they seem grouchy and are both female and the two buns are together at the minute it doesnt really sound like a good idea if they are together in a small cage at least they have company the other could be stuck there for months before and if someone buys it and as you say females are harder to bond plus if they couldnt bond with other bunnies then the chances they wont get on will be low – sorry


                        • xnovalentine
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                            unfortunetly the two buns in the smaller cages are not together, the cages are seperated by glass. they can see each other, but they arent in the same area. so in a sense they are together. I’m still going to talk to nick about it, to at least open the possibily of getting a new bunny in the future. Today he went on about all the stuff lullabelle has nibbled on that he wants replaced, so i’m thinking now is not the right time to ask if i can bring home another super chewer. I’m still back and forth on buying one of them. I know that the manager assured me there are no more rabbits after these, so the guilt of dooming another bun isin’t a issue. Its just the fact that they are female, and possibly aggressive that is making me question whether I should or shouldnt.


                          • MimzMum
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                              Oh dear, I’ve been watching these threads and there is something that I think needs to be said, even though it may sound harsh. Sorry!

                              I am living proof that bunnies are terribly irresistible and if I could I’d have a whole burrowful of my own-IF I didn’t already have so many pets/people to care for already. This being said, as sad as this situation is, I think you should also consider the fact that it sounds like your own bun is already in a place where one person is apparently not happy about it and you are having trouble with attention for the bunny you have. If you were on your own and had the finances and other resources to give one of these bunnies a place to go and your bunny a needed companion, well that might be different because there is less weighing against you. You don’t want to rescue the bunny from a store and then it is in another stressful situation, that won’t be good for you, your bf OR your bun.

                              Could there be someone you know in your area that you could steer towards one of these two lovelies who’d be willing to foster or take on one or both of them? A friend or family member? Perhaps that would be better in the long run.

                              If I sound like a mom, well, I am one ^^ and my kids get lectures all the time about thinking long term. I don’t mean to preach here, just giving another point of view. You sound like a great bunny mom and I know you want what’s best for your bun. I am sure you’ll make the right decision.

                              My local large pet store has those bloody tanks out on their floor still with “New friends coming soon” signs on them…I can only dread that this must be the new bunnies for the Easter season. I agree with knowltons, what on earth do they stock them for if all they do is suffer until they wind up at the shelter to be put down or out on the road by folks who buy them and then think, “Eh…too much for me to handle, it’ll take care of itself out here.”

                              There’s got to be some way to work this out for the good of all concerned.


                            • xnovalentine
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                                i respect your point of view, and i am taking into consideration what you were talking about. I am financially independent and I live on my own with my boyfriend. It wouldn’t be financially impossible for me to care for another rabbit. Nick is not against lullabelle, he agreed to have her [after] i brought her home. I just think that he will think of another little terrorist when I mention it. We went through a lot with lullabelle when i first got her, she was young and unspayed and completely crazy. she’s not 100% matured, but she isnt as destructive as before and is calmer. I feel that Lullabelle does get lonely and would benefit from another rabbit, however, my trouble is that If I would have to move the buns to another home, one would be very unconsummated to its environment and stressed if something were to happen, not saying that it will. I am worried about what Nick would say/think about it if I did get another bun, because I don’t think he looks at lullabelle as being lonely. He does like her, I catch him petting her when he thinks im not looking. I usually spend a lot of time with her, its just last week I was extremely busy and wasn’t there a lot, which i’m sure attributed to why lulla was feeling down. I do think that Nick would take into consideration what I want, and he knows that Lullabelle is more important to me than anything else. I just believe that Nick would perceive another bun as another young, unspayed lullabelle. If he knows how upset about it I am, I think he would agree to it to make me happy. We have the space for another bun, and its not like it would be taking another room up, they would be together [eventually], which the room Lulla is in is an annoyance to Nick because thats where he kept all his star wars stuff and I moved into the basement, which i call “nerd city”. His nerd things are perfectly fine down there, lulla is staying upstairs with us. Anywhoo, that is the dilemma in my head, but we all know what my heart is saying. I respect your opinions on the matter, and I am taking into consideration the cons of the situation. Again, that is what I am going back and forth about. I know its not impossible for me to get another one, I am just thinking ahead on the what if situation. I do know that eventually I will get another bun, i planned on it soon actually. But given the recent events in my life, i’m just worried about it being unstable for awhile.


                              • MimzMum
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                                  Well, in that case, one could look at this then as the opportunity you have been waiting for. And I hope I didn’t upset you with my post, I just would like to see this be an easy transition for you all. ^^
                                  Heehee…stuff being moved to the basement, now THAT is something I can empathize with. Hubby is very big on collecting Alaskan memorabilia, so since it was beginning to crowd us out, he turned his business into a museum and now visitors can look at his collection for a fee!

                                  Now, as long as he doesn’t suggest that I do the same thing with all my stuffed animals, I am in good shape! 0.o

                                  I have a friend who collects Star Wars (or at least she did before she moved to Los Angeles), now she collects Pirates of the Caribbean things (especially anything to do with Johnny Depp).

                                  I sure hope things work out well for you. And for the two little buns. They sound perfectly adorable (hey, have you ever seen a bun that wasn’t?) and I kind of have to chuckle about the one that you said looks like the bun you have. Lulla may think she’s looking in a mirror if she sees that one! ^^


                                • xnovalentine
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                                    Haha no you didin’t offend me, I just wanted to make sure what i was saying was clear. I dont want people to think i’m thinking about getting a bunny that i couldnt care for or something like that and we all be miserable because of it. i wanted everyone else’s input on the situation and I don’t want people to misunderstand the situation as just wanted one because i saw a cute bun in the store and not think about all the things that are happening with me right now that may effect the bunny. I just feel bad for these two – such small cages. I also wanted to get a bun from a shelter, but the dilemma here would suggest that either way I am helping a bun out of a bad situation.

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