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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > RESCUE EFFORTS FOR SHELTERS > She's definitely pregnant!
Last Post by Hedi at 7/11/2007 5:35 AM (29 Replies)
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User is Offline MooBunnay
Dallas, Texas (Allen)
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6/20/2007 2:06 PM
When I brought in some girls from my shelter for spay surgery they did not eat for almost a full two days after. To keep them eating I mushed together pellets and water and kind "forced" it into their mouths by getting it on their lips and slipping it in their lips behind their front teeth. Also, I fed them some cilantro and broke it in half to get them to smell it. I'm sorry that the shelter didn't listen to you - we have the same problem with pretty much every single shelter here in LA as well. I don't know why they care so little for bunnies!



User is Offline Hedi
Dayton, OH
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6/21/2007 9:30 AM

I forcefed her just a little bit of pellets mashed in water thru a syringe. She started eating on her own last night. Shes gone to the bathroom several times yesterday and today.

She was oinking at my husband this morning when he was in the kitchen! lol



Carrera 6yo Mini Rex
Pookie 5yo Dwarf
Cooper 2yo old Mini Lop
Hooper (Hooptie) 2yo Mini Rex

User is Offline Lucy
Chicago, IL
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6/23/2007 6:46 AM
how is she doing? were you able to make contact with a vet?



User is Offline Hedi
Dayton, OH
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6/24/2007 2:31 PM

One vets office was closed that day and the other the bunny vet out for the day. They took my name and # but never ever called me back.

Wed was the rough day since it was post op day #1. I started freaking out around 3pm because we were nearing that 24hr mark with no poo/pee and not eating. I did forcefeed her twice with the pellet mush with a syringe. By that evening she was eating just small strands of hay-but at least it was something! She did poo/pee for me before the 24th hour so Im glad I did force feed her. Thursday she ate a small piece of greens, raisins and a few pellets with her hay. I let her run around our kitchen and dining room and she had so much fun! She was getting into stuff, checking things out, became freinds with our vacuum (sat by it for a long time). I even had to chase her down to put her to bed. lol

I took her back to the shelter on Friday but I did kinda let the director know how I felt. Told them how bad she did, her risks outweight the benefit at that time and if she had been left at the shelter she would have died-no question in my mind.

I did call the mgr at the local HRS twice so at least I had someone to call for questions. She really needs to be fostered so that she has a place she can run to help get that weight off.

I am going to wait until she is one week out from surgery and start weaning her pellets down so we can get her on a diet and hopefully lose some weight before she is adopted out.



Carrera 6yo Mini Rex
Pookie 5yo Dwarf
Cooper 2yo old Mini Lop
Hooper (Hooptie) 2yo Mini Rex

User is Offline MooBunnay
Dallas, Texas (Allen)
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6/24/2007 5:54 PM

Hi! I'm so glad to hear she is doing better!  I must have missed the part where your husband let you bring her home that was nice of him!  She's such a pretty bunny and sounds so sweet.  Its so great that you were around to help her out.  It sounds like one of those "THANK GOODNESS FOR POOPS" moments that only bunny people seem to understand.

How did the director react when you talked to him/her? Was it OK? I know that out here one of the volunteer people got angry at a shelter for breaking up a bonded pair - and they were horrible to her after that.  They banned her from the shelters, sent animal control after, it was very sad because she had done so much work for bunnies

Anyways, keep us updated on this cute lil' dutch girl! I'm so glad she pulled through!




User is Offline Hedi
Dayton, OH
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6/26/2007 3:35 PM

The director wasnt friendly and kinda curt with me when the day of surgery I said she HAD to go home with someone. Their cats and dogs they just leave or if they are not doing well they send them to after hrs vet clinic which doesnt take rabbits.

He asked about her when I brought her back and I really emphasized if she hadnt been with me seh probably would have died. Left alone in a shelter with people who do not know to look for bunny poos may have missed it. He is open to suggestion but I think he was so proud of himself that she was fixed and didnt understand why that wouldnt make us happy.

The mgr understands and I did email him explaining the situation and how it could have gone very wrong very fast. I just happened to have been there that morning. Otherwise I would have seen her in two days and by then it could have been bad, if she was even alive.

Its a learning curve for all of us. So I am hoping they do not do anymore spays/neuters until we have something figured out. HRS was apauled that the vet would even do her surgery. She is exactly 3lb overweight. I think they did it to abort babies to be honest.



Carrera 6yo Mini Rex
Pookie 5yo Dwarf
Cooper 2yo old Mini Lop
Hooper (Hooptie) 2yo Mini Rex

User is Offline BB
San Francisco Area
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6/26/2007 6:58 PM
I agree with MooBunnay that it can really be sketchy with some shelters, as politics and egos don't escape even those that are working for or managing what you'd think would be a compassionate place. Walking on eggshells at some shelters seems to be the only way to get things done, but then there are others that are not that way.

I know I was absolutely amazed when you were able to go into that shelter and change so much. It says alot for their own willingness to change and lack of egos. I can't tell you how incredible that is as many times shelters will be like..."and who do you think you are?!" And it doesn't matter that you put in your time and $$, many times that goes unappreciated, so I am still impressed with the shelter you are working with so far even in spite of their own ignorance about this situation.

I also agree with you that it is a learning curve for all. The director may have felt proud of all the changes being made and felt good about what's happening, and the fact that everyone seemed to be on board, and so without fully understanding how fragile a rabbit's health can be, he may not have had full appreciation for the situation - so from his POV, by not understanding, he would see this as his efforts to make things happen were not being appreciated. Who knows, but it sounds you did a good job informing them about the risks, and even though there may have been some egos bugged, I bet they have heard and hopefully learned.



User is Offline MooBunnay
Dallas, Texas (Allen)
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6/27/2007 3:39 PM

Yes, working with shelters is definitely walking on eggshells! I'd recommend that your #1 priority be staying on their good side - obviously telling them things they do wrong diplomatically is important, but if you get on their bad side and they decide to give you the cold shoulder...it can be even worse for the poor buns!

I was surprised too actually that the Humane Society let you do so much for the buns around there - especially carrying bunny products.  I have a friend that is a shelter EMPLOYEE and they told her under no circumstance would they carry any hay products because hay is "messy."  Most of the shelters around here won't spay/neuter either, thats why the Bunny Bunch rescue that I work with gets so many of the bunnies in shelters spayed and neutered...because otherwise it would never happen!




User is Offline Lucy
Chicago, IL
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7/09/2007 6:19 PM
so just curious again, is she all right?



User is Offline Hedi
Dayton, OH
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7/11/2007 5:35 AM

I kept Carmella for four days after surgery. By the fourth day she was running around my dining room looking into stuff to get into. lol

She actually got adopted out this past weekend to a lady who has had rabbits before. I wasnt there so I wasnt involved but I did email the lady to check up on Carmella. My husband thought she was just so cute and her oinking at him every morning while he ate his breakfast just made his day. lol

 



Carrera 6yo Mini Rex
Pookie 5yo Dwarf
Cooper 2yo old Mini Lop
Hooper (Hooptie) 2yo Mini Rex
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