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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > A horrible thing has happened tonight
Last Post by MimzMum at 4/01/2008 2:50 PM (42 Replies)
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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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3/31/2008 12:39 PM

I have a female bunny (milly) who I have to keep away from my other rabbits because her aggression goes beyond that of a typical rabbit. I don't like the fact that she is on her own so she lives in the summerhouse in a seven foot by 3ft cage and the rest live free range in there. Tonight by freak accident she managed to get hold of my five month old lionhead and although I managed to break it up very quickly the damage had been done.

I checked Phoebe over (five month old bun) and on first appearance seemed fine, then I noticed a chunk of her fur and picked it up to find a huge piece of skin and other matter attached to it. I turned her over and she had a hole three inches long by two inches wide and I could see her thigh muscles and stomach muscles. She is only a 1.3kg bun and is so tiny. I took her straight to the emergency vet and they have taken her in.  She wasn't sure that there was enough skin to hold it together tightly enough so I am just praying that she gets through this. She was spayed last week and went into stasis, I have only just managed to get her over that. I hope she is strong enough to cope with this. I am feeling so guilty and upset and can't stop crying. If she can't be helped I will never ever forgive myself.



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User is Offline babybunsmum
Waterloo ON Canada
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3/31/2008 12:44 PM

oh you poor thing, how very upsetting!  i'm so sorry this has happened.  dispite our best efforts sometimes accidents still do happen.  i'm sending sweet phoebe lots & lots of (((((((((healing vibes))))))))).  keep us posted ok?



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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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3/31/2008 12:44 PM
Oh my god oh my god *HUGS* that's sooo terrible I am sooo sorry this happened to you. It's not your fault and don't for a second feel guilty. *hugs* oh my god that must, I can't even imagine keeping my head in that situation I feel so badly for you. *hugs* You just try to keep you mind off of it until you know what's happening at the vets and what the prognosis is. No sense worrying your head off, I know easier said then done, but nothing can be done now. It's good you broke it up and got her help as soon as possible. *HUGS*


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User is Offline Lion_Lop_Lover
New Brunswick, Canada
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3/31/2008 12:45 PM
*hugs* Oh my gosh. I hope she's okay...


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User is Offline kralspace
West, Texas
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3/31/2008 12:47 PM
OMG I am so sorry for you and the little one. They're like kids, no matter how close you watch them, they manage to get into trouble, you certainly can't blame yourself, it sounds like you took extraordinary care to keep her separated. *hugs* to you and the bun. Maybe they have some synthetic skin like they use on people, or something. We're all pulling for you.


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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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3/31/2008 12:52 PM
I'm worried that even if she has enough skin to stitch her up (which was not a very likely outcome because the skin is so thin and so much was missing for her size) that the wound will split if she tries to move, and how do you immobilise a bunny? It's impossible. I can't believe this has happened and especially to phoebe who wouldn't have even tried to retaliate she is such a sweet bun. There wasn't a speck of Milly's fur on the ground it was all Phoebe's...that upsets me even more to know that she could barely defend herself, Milly is three times her size. I just don't know what to do with her. I keep her caged in the Summerhouse because she will not bond with another rabbit and although she can't be right next to them I think she likes the fact that there is company, however the worry of this sort of thing happening has now resulted in it actually happening. I don't want to rehome her because she has a lot of issues and not many people would put up with her behaviour, but if I have to move her out of there and away from the others I would feel so guilty.


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User is Offline Lisa_43
Perth Western Australia
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3/31/2008 1:00 PM
I am so sorry, poor little Bunnie. ((((((((((Healing vibes for Phoebe))))))))))))



User is Offline babybunsmum
Waterloo ON Canada
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3/31/2008 1:06 PM

i would think that phoebe would need to be kept confined to a smal enclosure while ehr stitches healed much like after a spay. for milly... could you surround her cage with an xpen maybe?  something that allows a visual connection but puts a gap between her & the other buns. 



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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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3/31/2008 1:09 PM
When will you hear back? Do you have a timeframe that you'll hear?


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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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3/31/2008 1:20 PM
I just spoke with the vet. She came through the anaesthetic really well, we were worried that she wouldn't because she was just spayed last week and they sometimes have a poorer reaction to another one so soon after. The vet had to trim a little bit of skin because the edges were rough, but she thinks that there should be enough to hold it together. The area is a little swollen because she had to give it a saline flush but she said she was very lucky that her stomach wasn't penetrated in which case things would have been a lot worse. She will stay on antibiotics and pain relief for a while now and the hardest job is going to be getting her to eat again....she tends to go into stasis over the smallest amount of stress and she was pretty much in shock. She is staying at the vets until 7.30am tomorrow (it's 11.15 pm here and I won't be able to sleep) so they can syringe feed and give her some sub-q fluids if she won't drink. The bill is going to be more than £500.....I'm hoping her insurance will pay out!!!!!


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User is Offline babybunsmum
Waterloo ON Canada
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3/31/2008 1:28 PM

oh i'm so glad to hear she made it through surgery!   ((((((phoebe))))))   it's good they'll be tending to her until tomorow morning to be sure she's eating & staying hydrated.  take some deep breaths & try to rest even if you can't sleep.  you'll feel so much better tomorrow if you can get some rest.  ((((((hugs))))))



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User is Offline Cadbury
Ellicott City, MD
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3/31/2008 1:31 PM
((((Phoebe))))


The cutest thing I've ever seen - a bunny yawning.

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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3/31/2008 1:34 PM
Yes, maybe just lay on the couch with the lights off and watch TV. I find reading works when I'm stressed out but if your tired you won't be able to keep that up. That's fantastic she made it throught the surgery. Sounds like she's lucky. *VIBES* *HUGS*


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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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3/31/2008 1:36 PM
Posted By babybunsmum on 03/31/2008 3:28 PM

oh i'm so glad to hear she made it through surgery!   ((((((phoebe))))))   it's good they'll be tending to her until tomorow morning to be sure she's eating & staying hydrated.  take some deep breaths & try to rest even if you can't sleep.  you'll feel so much better tomorrow if you can get some rest.  ((((((hugs))))))

Thank you....It's strange because I have been feeling ill all day today, intended on having a really early night but as soon as that happened I forgot how ill I was! No doubt it will hit me for six tomorrow when I get Phoebe home.  I know she is in the best place at the moment because I have a right job force feeding. I think it's because she is so closely bonded with me so knows she can put up with a fight, hopefully they won't have as much trouble. I've asked if I can give her antibiotics by sub-q as opposed to orally. I hate sticking them with needles but at least that way I know she will be getting it into her system.



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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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3/31/2008 1:39 PM

Posted By Kokaneeandkahlua on 03/31/2008 3:34 PM
Yes, maybe just lay on the couch with the lights off and watch TV. I find reading works when I'm stressed out but if your tired you won't be able to keep that up. That's fantastic she made it throught the surgery. Sounds like she's lucky. *VIBES* *HUGS*

Thanks...I've filled a hot water bottle and had a cup of tea. I'm feeling so tired and it's creeping up on me. I'll get some sleep because I will be no good driving early in the morning otherwise. I just realised I am so lucky that I work for myself because I don't know how others who go out to work would be able to deal with things like this!



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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
New Brunswick, Canada
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3/31/2008 2:08 PM
BIG BUNNY HUGS TO YOU. All my thoughts and prayers are with you and your wee one.

I agree with you, I would never be able to hold my head at work dealing with something so terrible. Although you have to keep busy or youll go nuts. I agree with Kokanee. Reading is great to get your mind of things. Just grab yourself a steamy romance and relax

I'll be eager to hear about your baby in the morning.


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User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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3/31/2008 2:11 PM
ooo my goodness charlie - how frightening!! i am VERY glad to hear she made it out of the anesthesia so well. i truly hope she'll start eating and that the overnight at the doctor's office will help with the healing.

please don't beat yourself up over it, really it's not your fault!

sending lots of calming wishes to you and of course lots of healing to Milly!


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User is Offline JK
Mill Valley, CA
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3/31/2008 2:37 PM

Oh Charlie I'm just reading this.  I am so sorry.  Please don't beat yourself up.  Just be glad you got to her when you did. You are one of the best bunny moms out there. I am so glad the little one is doing ok.  Get some rest and give us an update when you get her back.  Poor baby girl.




User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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3/31/2008 2:44 PM

Charlie - plenty of ****healing vibes**** for Phoebe and ((((HUGS)))) for you. I hope that all is well and maybe do a bit more with the bunny proofing in the are where Milly is. Is it possible to put up plexi-glass between her and the other rabbits? What exactly is separating her from them?




User is Offline Boston
Minnesota
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3/31/2008 3:00 PM

I hope everything turns out ok for your little lion head. I'm thinking about you and hope to hear soon how she (and you) is doing!



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