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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Lola is at Emergency Vet
Last Post by bmt87 at 11/17/2012 6:43 PM (51 Replies)
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/13/2012 8:04 AM
Posted By MimzMum on 11/12/2012 03:05 PM
Wanted to ask if Lola always has kale? That veg gives mine gas everytime they have it and they won't pass poos for several hours and/or until I administer simethicone.

She does normally have kale - I didn't start giving it to her until after she started getting sick because it's one of her favorites and one of the few things she can't resist.  I actually thought this might have been brought on by a combination of the shedding and that I had just introduced mustard greens which she had never had before.... So... who knows!

TBPony - that was all really great info.  I am still going to take her to the vet regarding the sores/callouses since they are new and since I've already spent so much money I'd rather just spend another $40 to make sure *everything* is ok...but the fact that other house rabbits get them regularly makes me feel a lot better.  And thanks for the simethicone info, that seems to be the same info that I read in the article Sarita posted but it's comforting to know that someone else has some first-hand experience with it.

Her vet appointment is at 4:30 tonight... Fingers-crossed I have a healthy Lola bunny!

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User is Offline TBpony414
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11/13/2012 8:18 PM
I'm glad my information was helpful to you. How did Lola's vet appointment today go? Also I wanted to add that in my experience (only 2 rabbits, but still) kale has caused severe gas episodes in both bunnies so about 3 years ago I stopped feeding it completely.

User is Offline Sarita
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11/14/2012 12:26 AM
I've never ever had a problem with kale.

User is Offline tanlover14
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11/14/2012 6:24 AM
Kale has never caused any tummy issues with my 3 little ones either -- although my vet did advise making sure kale is only 1/3 of their 3 cups of daily veggies.
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/14/2012 9:17 AM
The kale is probably about 1/5 of what she eats everyday - and she gets a pretty generous mix of things on a regular basis - right now it's kale, cilantro, parsley, red leaf lettuce, dandelion, and carrot tops...so I don't *think* it's the kale but it's something i'll keep in mind.

The vet said Lola looked good. The visit made me feel a little better but at the same time I felt like there were still some unanswered questions. The vet said she didn't recommend keeping SubQ fluids on hand - which I didn't like but I didn't want to argue with her either. She said it was best just to force feed at the first signs of stasis and that baby food carrot was a good thing to keep on hand. So...I don't know. I'd rather be safe than sorry but you can't force a doctor to give you medications either....

She said simethicone had no drug interactions so that seems to be reaffirmed from the info we all found digging around in papers online.

I also asked her about pineapple juice to break up all the hair in her tummy and she advised against it and said that it was something that people used to do but no so much now....

She also said not to limit pellets and keep her diet the same when she is going through stasis which is different than everything I've read....

SO - sorry that's random info but I just wanted to relay what happened. Lola seems to be feeling a lot better and I reintroduced some pellets into her diet today so we shall see how that goes. She's been of the Reglan for 24 hours now and seems to be handling it ok. Through this whole experience she has been a lot more cuddly - even when we were at the vets she kept trying to stand up on the exam table and put her little paws on my shoulder and would snuggle next to me - I think she actually understands that she was sick and we were trying to help her and that she is safe next to us...animals really amaze me sometimes.
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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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11/14/2012 6:00 PM
Glad she's on the mend!!!

If you desire, you can purchase everything you need for sub-q at a medical supply store -if you want to stock anyways. If you're not comfortable giving it though, then your vet is right and critical care is the way to go.
I think your vet is right about the pineapple. It might be a nice benefit of a fresh slice of pineapple, i.e. that it might have enzymes that are helpful for digestion and that it's a tasty treat...but it's definitely not a treatment.

She also said not to limit pellets and keep her diet the same when she is going through stasis which is different than everything I've read....
This sounds correct, but I may be misreading your statement-what part is the opposite of what you've read?
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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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11/15/2012 12:34 AM
I'm glad Lola is still feeling better.

While I def think sub Q fluids are helpful, I can sort of see the side of your vet. You don't want to use them unless necessary. It's very stressful for bunnies.

even when we were at the vets she kept trying to stand up on the exam table and put her little paws on my shoulder and would snuggle next to me
Olivia does this. I think it's her telling me to pick her up and get her the heck out of there. She hates being picked up any other time.
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/15/2012 7:14 AM
About the pellets - I had just read on this forum to reduce the amounts of pellets when they are going through Stasis to encourage them t eat more of the green wet veggies and more hay to get things moving. I think someone may have even suggested it on this thread too or the previous one I posted but I could be wrong. It made sense but I can also see how switching up their routine could be confusing.

And the SubQ fluids - I know how to do it so I may go out and buy them BUT I can see myself being so concerned anyways if she goes through this again that I would just rather take her to the vet. I would definitely err on the side of caution and not want to risk her not getting the help she needs.

Thanks for all the help guys!
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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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11/15/2012 9:16 AM
I think I mentioned about limiting the pellets. I always reduce the pellets during and right after stasis as my vet seems to think that a lot of pellets can cause GI problems. But it's best to listen to your vet, if you trust him/her. They know your bunny best.
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User is Offline tanlover14
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11/16/2012 6:59 PM
^ Agreed. On the Boon post, my vet said with buns in stasis and who have a history of it to limit pellets for sure.
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User is Offline MimzMum
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11/16/2012 11:11 PM
Glad to hear Lola has a clean bill of health!
I suppose if a bun is going into stasis you'd want to keep up pellets if that's what they'll eat...I was thinking if she was feeling better consistently you might want to reduce them then, gradually. Always take the advice of your vet who knows bunny best.
I think chronic illness definitely causes our buns to get more touchy-feelie. They just get much closer to us when daily meds and handling occur. Mimzy and I are much closer now than we were before he got head tilt. (And he's more demanding too!)

Continued healthy Lola vibes! She's a beauty!
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/17/2012 6:43 PM
Even though my vet said to not change it, I can definitely see where limiting it could help and force them to eat more hay. It's something I'll keep in mind.

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