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Last Post by BB at 9/04/2006 8:36 AM (7 Replies)
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User is Offline Elena Niznik
Glasgow (Scotland)
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8/30/2006 9:22 AM

There has been alot of poop talk on here lately but I cant help adding to it this time.

Boo has been nibbling little bits throughout the course of the day today , yesterday ( the day of her spay) she ate only 3 pellets and nibbled a whole leaf of bok choi. This morning she produced 3 normal fecal pellets.

This very second she was cleaning her tummy (when she does this for a long period of time she is usually extracting a cecal pellet )

BUT Instead of coming up chewing she hopped off and had some poop stuck to her hawk.

The poop was infact some sticky fecal pellets covered in a whitish mucus that had stuck to her fur. Other than them being sticky they were normally sized and of normal consistency Is this normal after a spay and short spells of anorexia?

She is comfortable and alert, she isnt grinding her teeth and she is lying in the meat loaf position and even did a flop for a few seconds. I will  look out for yellow mucus and abnormally sized fecals just incase


User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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8/30/2006 2:36 PM
what you're seeing is a cecotrope - normally she would eat it, but likely because she isn't feeling well she can't reach it... here's some more information about them and why they're so important.

"Unlike most other mammals, lagomorphs (including domestic rabbits) produce two types of droppings, fecal pellets (the round, dry ones you usually see in the litterbox) and cecotropes. The latter are produced in a region of the rabbit's digestive tract called the cecum. The cecum contains a natural community of bacteria and fungi that provide essential nutrients and possibly even protect the rabbit from harmful pathogens.

How does the rabbit get those essential nutrients? She eats the cecotropes as they exit the anus. The rabbits blissful expression when she's engaging in cecotrophy (the ingestion of cecotropes) will tell you that she finds this anything but disgusting. In fact, rabbits deprived of their cecotropes will eventually succumb to malnutrition. Cecotropes are not feces. They are nutrient-packed dietary items essential to your companion rabbit's good health.

Each individual rabbit usually produces cecotropes at a characteristic time of the day, which may vary from rabbit to rabbit. Some produce cecotropes in the late morning, some in the late afternoon, and some at night. In any case, they usually do this when you're not watching, which might be why some people refer to cecotropes as "night droppings."

A normal CECOTROPE resembles a dark brown mulberry, or tightly bunched grapes. It is composed of small, soft, shiny pellets, each coated with a layer of rubbery mucus, and pressed into an elongate mass. The cecotrope has a rather pungent odor, as it contains a large mass of beneficial cecal bacteria. When the bunny ingests the cecotrope, the mucus coat protects the bacteria as they pass through the stomach, then re-establish in the cecum."

source: http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/poop.html
~ bunny mom to to HRH Hareiette, Viktor the crazy Krum and Pandora, prima binky ballerina ~ Save a life, Adopt!

User is Offline Elena Niznik
Glasgow (Scotland)
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8/30/2006 10:35 PM
Hi gravehearted, What Boo produced last night are not cecal pellets, They are fecal pellets. She used to overproduce her cecals before I changed ger diet so I know what these look like and they are definately not the same.

They are normal fecal pellets ,apart from the fact that they are sticky.

User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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8/31/2006 5:32 AM
hmm, well if they're actually fecal pellets and not cecals calling your doctor is a good idea. Since many people haven't seen cecals and get spooked by them - I assumed that's what you were seeing. Fecals that are mushy and mucus-y generally indicates an inflammation of the intestinal lining.

When my bunny had this issue they perscribed 2 weeks on a med called Cholestyramine, which is actually a powder med that you add to water. it looks kinda like lemon pudding - which is weird, but apparently tasted ok. the idea is that it leaches out bad tummy bacterias and toxins to help the gut move.

But since she was just spayed it could be that's what irritating her tummy, so I'd call and discuss it with your doctor.
~ bunny mom to to HRH Hareiette, Viktor the crazy Krum and Pandora, prima binky ballerina ~ Save a life, Adopt!

User is Offline BB
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8/31/2006 11:10 AM

She could have something like coccidia.  A very common parasitic type of illness in rabbits and usually very easy to treat with meds from a vet.


Keep us updated.


User is Offline Elena Niznik
Glasgow (Scotland)
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8/31/2006 9:56 PM
OK I think things are normal again, she did a whole lot of normal fecal pellets last night and I mean alot.!!
Her appatite is back to normal and she ate and ate last night. I presume her unusual poops were due to her being slightly anorexic after her spay but I think all is well she has a check up on monday and I'm very happy with her recovery.
Thanks again for the help and tips!

User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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9/02/2006 11:31 AM
I'm glad to hear her system is back to normal and that everything is looking good!
~ bunny mom to to HRH Hareiette, Viktor the crazy Krum and Pandora, prima binky ballerina ~ Save a life, Adopt!

User is Offline BB
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9/04/2006 8:36 AM

OH good!   Smaller, fewer poops can definitely be from her system slowing down during this time.

I am happy to here she is doing better!  It is harder for females, but it really does sound like she's coming along.

 

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