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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > BONDING > Max and Meadow: Bonding Fun! *BONDED*
Last Post by Beka27 at 07/11/2008 09:43 AM (72 Replies)
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User is Offline MarkBun
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06/19/2008 05:42 AM
It looks like it's going really good to me. "Neutral Territory" means an area that neither one has laid claim to yet. If it is a room that Meadow hasn't used/been in before then it is Neutral Territory and you can use that area even if they both have cages in there. It was a good idea.



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User is Online Beka27
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06/19/2008 06:32 AM
*whew* ^^^LOL!

you really are the expert... i trust your opinions Markus!


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User is Offline MarkBun
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06/19/2008 10:11 AM
I always hate being called the expert since it took someone else to finally get my two buns bonded but yeah, I've learned all the tricks - just that I couldn't get any of them to work for me

As for 'strangeness' - let me know when you get to the point where you put them both in a box suspended by bungee cords and then we'll talk strange.


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User is Online Beka27
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06/19/2008 10:14 AM
lol.... i'm hoping it won't come to that. or the gorilla suit. (yes, i reread your thread the other day!)


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User is Online Beka27
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06/23/2008 03:30 AM

well, it's been two full weeks

we went to the vet on Friday, you can read about that here ---->  binkybunny.com/Default.aspx    it went very well!

when we got home, Michael wanted to go to the park so we did that.  i only had the bunnies together for about 20 minutes that day, in addition to the vet trip.

Saturday i had to work, and Mike was golfing.  when i got home i did another 30 minutes with them, but then i had to clean up around the house (you know... mommy and wife stuff!)  Mike fixed my vacuum which had a lot of hay and fur stuck in it.  not sure how it got there...    i cleaned up the bunny room and i fixed the xpens so they were together with only one set of bars between the sides.  i watched them in their pens for about an hour to make sure noone was going for anyone else... they seemed fine.

Sunday Mike wanted to go to the driving range, so he asked us to go.  we planned on doing some mini golf afterwards... but we only did 5 holes and it started STORMING!  we got off the course just in time and back to the car, and driving home it was HAILING!  crazy... but at least we got out of there in time!  at home i did another 20 minutes or so with the bunnies.

so it was a pretty uneventful weekend.  yesterday (Sunday) Max was grooming Meadow for a good 30 seconds or so, and when he stopped Meadow inched closer.  he turned away and Mead kind of lunged at him.  i was paying attention but not really, so she didn't even get a squirt b/c i missed the opportunity.  Max is not running from Meadow anymore.  even if she gets a little bit aggressive, he will back off a couple feet, but he stays pretty close.  maybe he's trying to assert himself that he's not just gonna go away?

i think doing a bit less this weekend has been good for me. 

i was starting to lose steam, but now i feel like i can start again with a fresh outlook. 



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User is Online Beka27
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06/24/2008 07:08 AM
yesterday, after one hour of out-time, i opened up one of the xpen doors and let them both hop in and out of it. Max was sitting in his litterbox, Mead started eating HIS veggies. they seemed pretty content to be in there together for about ten minutes, then i shooed Meadow out.


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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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06/24/2008 09:36 AM
That looks really really promising Beka CONGRATS!!!

...backup...gorilla suit? I don't remember reading that!?!?! Details??


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User is Offline MarkBun
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06/24/2008 10:35 AM
It is in regards to a comment I made about bonding my two. Maryann didn't seem frightened by anything - vacuum, car rides, suspension, etc. so I wasn't able to do any sort of 'fear bonding'. So I said that if all else failed, I'd go rent a gorilla suit and chase them around the house for an hour.



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User is Online Beka27
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06/30/2008 10:34 AM
alright. they have been gated up in the bunny room all day, both sides of the pens open. they've been in and out of each side, and also sleeping next to each other. they're sharing food, litterboxes and hay.

what is my next step? should i open up the bunny room and let them both venture into "Meadow's territory" (the living room).

or... combine the pens somehow...


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06/30/2008 10:38 AM
I think I would combine the pen at this point if they are sharing.

It sounds like it's progressing very well.



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06/30/2008 11:03 AM

what do you think about this set-up... so it can be closed at night if i feel it's necessary... but left open during the day...  the little slashes are the doors of course.

and when should i introduce them to the together to rest of the house?


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06/30/2008 11:05 AM
That is a good set-up - reminds me somewhat of Markus's set-up too.

I think if they are just starting to bond keep their space small like this for at least another week before you let them out together. You want to encourage closeness.



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07/01/2008 08:45 AM
You want to keep them in this setup for 2 weeks according to SaveABunny. You want them to get used to each other to the point that they think of each other as themselves. Then you can widen the area and let them go exploring.


My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

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07/01/2008 09:17 AM

they were sharing the side yesterday.  the door was left open so they could have left at any point but they spent the whole afternoon sleeping together.  sometimes side by side, or at angles.  in this pic they were flopped out on opposite sides.  i don't think Max could've been anymore relaxed...

this afternoon i switched it into the set-up i had posted above: "the modified Markus approach"  lol.  allow Max to demonstrate...

they can either have two separate pens

one larger pen with the door opened betw/ them...  nice jump Max!

for separate runtime (if i feel it's necessary!) i can just open the left pen door, or move two panels to allow the right pen to be open...

 

i have not put them together today yet  b/c it took me awhile to set this up and i have a doctor appt this afternoon.  i'll give it a try a little bit later.  i think i am going to keep this set-up for awhile b/c i like how sturdy it is.  so, you're recommending i leave them in the xpens for two weeks, or also let them in their room?  i still want them to have somewhat normal playtime...

 

side note:  i figured out how Max is "eating" so many more veggies than Meadow...  sneaky bun.

 

 

 

 

 



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User is Offline JK
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07/01/2008 09:25 AM

The set up looks awesome and the pics are great!!!! You are doing so well with the bonding! Any humping? Someone sure likes the willow ball!  I'm fascinated they don't scarf the greens in one sitting.  Edson inhales them. Is Max friendly towards you guys?




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07/01/2008 09:30 AM
Cute pictures - Meadow is so sneaky trying to make Max look like the bad boy LOL :~)



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07/01/2008 09:32 AM
I put Maryann and Dono into the X-pen and left them in there for 2 weeks straight. Your pen setup has plenty of room for them to stretch their legs. YOu'd want to leave that middle door open at all times unless a fight breaks out. At which point, they both should go into the basket and on top of the dryer and then back into the Xpen.

The less seperation via bars the better at this stage.


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07/01/2008 01:45 PM
at 4 this afternoon, i put them both in the xpens with the door open betw/ them. i had a doctor appt at 5pm and i left them together. i was SCARED! but i got home and everyone and everything looked fine. they've been pooping in one litterbox, but there has not been any other territory poops anywhere. so i should just elave them together like that overnight? i could leave my bedroom door open overnight (the pens are only about 12 feet away). does that sound like it would be okay, or should i divide them overnight? (i am a very sound sleeper...)


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Posted By knowltons4 on 07/01/2008 12:25 PM

The set up looks awesome and the pics are great!!!! You are doing so well with the bonding! Any humping? Someone sure likes the willow ball!  I'm fascinated they don't scarf the greens in one sitting.  Edson inhales them. Is Max friendly towards you guys?


thank you Knowls.  i am trying.  it's been about 3 weeks... so i don't think i'm doing too bad.  i think i'm still more cautious than anything...  there has been absolutely no humping.  at least none i've seen.  it's ridiculous the amount of willow they go thru.  for the first week or so, Max wouldn't even touch it.  now he's tearing it apart as quick as Meadow.  i just had to place another huge order...   i give them a lot of greens.  they will finish the big bowl within a few hours or so.  they munch a few leaves... then go away, then come back later.  they scarf the pellets, but i feed them separately, so it's not a huge deal.  it was funny yesterday b/c Meadow and Max were eating pellets out of the same bowl.  but they kept mashing foreheads trying to get at them...  i put the other pellet bowl next to them but they kept eating out of the same one.



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07/02/2008 04:07 AM

WE SURVIVED THE NIGHT!!!

i am exhausted.

there were a few thumps last night, but i don't know why.  i was watching tv and i had the door open, so i don't know if they were in reaction to the tv... or some people were putting off some early fireworks outside... everytime there was a thump, i hopped outta bed and checked on them and they're sitting there looking at me like... "uh, what?"   so i passed out.

my husband left at 5 for work, and then at 6 am like clockwork... they become the energizer bunnies.  i hear munching hay, flying leaps in and out of the litterbox.  Meadow gnawing on her wood house.  there was this huge racket... bars were banging.  i leap out of bed again (as well as i can "leap" at 6 am) to see who's killing who... and it's silly Max trying to dislodge the makeshift hayrack... and he keeps banging it against the bars.  i got back in bed.

my son comes and wakes me up a little bit later.  he says "Max's ear is broken!"  again, covers fly... i high-jump the bed...  he shows me Max's ear.  it's just the little part that was injured when he was a baby.  whew.  leave it to him to not notice until right now...

so day one... and all is well...

 



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07/02/2008 04:17 AM
yay! It sounds great - I know how hesitant bunny parents are about leaving their bunny babies together unsupervised during bonding but it has to happen and it sounds like they are well on their way to living happily together.



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07/02/2008 07:16 AM
It sounds like yer buns will be fine if left alone. I know this sounds silly but everytime you run into their room in a panic, they get that vibe off of you and get a little jumpy themselves. Of course it is up to your personal vibe on things but I would leave them alone in there as is for a while now.


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07/02/2008 09:52 AM
that makes sense Markus. i'll try and give them some privacy... lol.


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07/02/2008 11:13 AM
Max's flop is quite possible the CUTEST I've ever seen They look great together!



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07/02/2008 12:31 PM
^^^awww! Maxie! i know, i love his flops... the first time i saw his "dead bunny flop" his eyes were rolled back in his head.

i admit that i had to stand there until i saw a nose twitch... just to make sure.


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07/02/2008 12:35 PM
You seriously have the CLEANEST carpet ever!! LOL You put me to SHAME


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07/02/2008 12:36 PM
You seriously have the CLEANEST carpet ever!! LOL You put me to SHAME

I'm so glad the bonding is going so well-they are going to be the cutest couple!!


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07/02/2008 12:47 PM
lol... i had just vacuumed it when i rearranged the pens. it only looks clean for about 15 minutes then it's a hay explosion...


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Posted By Samantha on 07/02/2008 2:13 PM
Max's flop is quite possible the CUTEST I've ever seen They look great together!

That's EXACTLY how I feel.

I think any two bunnies that mash heads to eat out of the same bowl when there's another one right there are BONDED.

 



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