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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > BONDING > Washer Bonding video
Last Post by Sarita at 6/11/2008 2:27 PM (28 Replies)
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 6:16 AM

www.youtube.com/watch

 

any thoughts, suggestions... my next move?

 

(plus some great footage of Max!)

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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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6/10/2008 6:22 AM
OMG you have grooming already? If there is absolutely nipping, I would just pop them in a cage together and call them bonded...but I jump the gun alot LOL
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 6:25 AM
there's still a bit of nipping tho when the washer stops. i'm uploading that vid right now... and last night there was some thru the bars nipping (by Meadow). my vet tech friend is coming over today so maybe we'll try some real, non-washer bonding.
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User is Offline Sarita
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6/10/2008 6:35 AM
Well, they are adorable together. I don't think this is really a good indication as they both looked distracted and confused :~)

You need to try something else to get them to interact or even to know if they are truly ignoring each other (which is not a negative in bonding).

I think the washer is best only if you are having some really tough bonding sessions and right now you aren't really certain how together they will interact or react.

User is Offline babybunsmum
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6/10/2008 6:35 AM

thats great beka!  i think you're ready for non-washer bonding for sure.  some where neutral thats big enough for them to roam around a bit & for you to be there with them to break up if any nipping / circling starts to escalate.  oh and a plate of greens for them to dine on.  what a great match for each other they are!  so sweet

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User is Offline COOKIE'N FLUFF MOMMA
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6/10/2008 6:37 AM

awww they are soo cute together! I see you have that water bottle handy!  looks like they are off to a pretty good start.

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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 6:43 AM
okay... i'll give that a try today. so should i stop the washing machine altogether?
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User is Offline JK
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6/10/2008 6:52 AM

My god girl, they look completely bonded to me!!! They are so adorable together. They look sooo much alike!  I always thought Meadow had gray spots!  I'd put them in a room together and see what happens. BUT I am no expert!  You are doing a fantastic job!  I still want Max.  I love the way his ear rests on Mead's back.


User is Offline Nicci607
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6/10/2008 7:01 AM

awwee!! SO CUTE!! Max looks a little scared, though???

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User is Offline JK
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6/10/2008 7:09 AM

I think Max is thinking "why the heck is she putting me in a laundry basket? That's just weird. I need to pee"!!!


User is Offline MarkBun
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6/10/2008 7:24 AM
I would stop the washing machine stuff for now and proceed onto the neutral territory bonding. Actually, what I would do is set up the neutral space with the X-pen and then take them on a 5 minute washing mashine ride first and then place them into the X-pen. Do that combo for only the first time. Bring them back to the washing machine only if there is some severe fighting going on. The washing machine should now be considered a 'time out' place where you put both buns if they are very naughty.

You will have to be prepared for some nipping and mounting that will go on while they sort things out. The hardest thing for a parent when bonding is that they will interrupt any sort of aggression and, unfortunately, buns needta work things out. It only becomes a real issue when both buns decide that they're not going to back down and go into fighting one another. If one nips and the other hops away and the first doesn't immediately pursue, that is part of the bonding process.

The fact that Meadow groomed Max is a VERY good sign.
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 7:38 AM
i cannot thank you enough for weighing in on this Markus (you are the expert!) okay... i am going to do a 5 minute wash with them and then move them into my bedroom. my bed juts out into the middle, and the actual floorspace is pretty small, so that might cut down on circular chasing. i'll need to do a quick b-proof for behind the dresser, but that's not a problem. now, should i carry them together right from the washer in the basket to the bedroom, or take them separately? (my friend isn't coming over now... so i'm by myself). so i should not spray for nipping, only flat-out fighting?
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User is Offline MarkBun
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6/10/2008 7:43 AM
I would simply carry them in the basket to the neutral space. If some nipping goes on during transport, just shake the basket a little bit. If nipping happens during the bonding process, what I would do is clap and say "NO" once it starts and if it continues, then get the water bottle and spray. However, any nipping to the face is a no-no and should be corrected immediately (aka spray). It is hard to clap AND hold a spray bottle so what I do is wear shorts so that I can slap my thigh for the 'clap' and still have the water bottle ready to shoot.

It is always better to err on the side of caution though. It takes a bit of intuition to know the difference between Meadow's nips saying "I'm in charge, get out of my way," and "I hate you and want you gone!" Maryann was easy to read as she'd latch onto Dono like a lampry and pull. Good thing is was so fluffy.
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 7:48 AM
alright... i have to go find something to wash... (one good thing is i'm keeping up on my laundry... lol! folding and putting away tho... that's another story!)
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 11:30 AM
alright. i did the wash with them for 5 minutes, carried them into the bedroom. took them out of the basket. they walked around sniffing for about 5 minutes, walking right past each other. they got into a scuffle after a little bit, water bottle did nothing so i dropped the laundry basket upside down on top of one of them just to separate. took the basket off, they went back to walking around. they ignored each other for about five minutes then another scuffle. this was was more chasing and i sprayed and i was able to stop it. they took turns hopping in and out of the hay filled litterbox. Meadow spent the most time in there, and when Max would try to go by it she would nip at him. it broke into a full blown fight 3 times in the course of an hour in the bedroom. the rest of the time they were ignoring, grooming (themselves), Max even flopped a couple of times. they both ate some hay. i put out a plate with a couple halved grapes. Mead ate two of the halves. i think i got everything...
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User is Offline Sarita
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6/10/2008 11:48 AM
It's alot of work isn't it! It's good if you can be persistent and do a few bonding sessions every day - the more you can do, hopefully the quicker the bonding will go.

User is Offline Beka27
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6/10/2008 11:59 AM
should i do it an hour each time, less, more? fortunately i have time so i'm not worried about it being work. i just want to make sure i'm doing it the best way for results.
Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline Sarita
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6/10/2008 12:04 PM
I think as long as you and the rabbits can tolerate hour sessions then I think you should keep up with the hour sessions - if after an hour they are getting along then I say start increasing the sessions. I think most people start out at 15 minutes because that's all they can handle but it's really not long enough in my opinion if they are having spurts of good behavior and it's not all bad behavior - then longer is better.

User is Offline kimberleyanddarren
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6/11/2008 4:55 AM
have u tried bonding them in the bath? so they cant ignore each other? very nice video i love how u are such a bunny slave she nipped him and u squirted her and then gave her head pats hehehehe

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User is Offline Beka27
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6/11/2008 5:15 AM

here's the bedroom video if you're interested...  www.youtube.com/watch

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