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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HABITATS AND TOYS > willow balls....danger.
Last Post by Floppy at 5/28/2008 4:12 PM (25 Replies)
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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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1/08/2008 11:18 PM

I just wanted to let you know of an experience I had with a willow ball. I have to *STRESS* that these are not the same as the willow balls sold on here, or most other bunny sites and I will try and upload an image. These balls you can mostly buy from petstores and ones that I won't be buying again. Normal willow balls I still use and as they aren't wound so tightly are not a danger.

I purchased a willow ball for one of my rabbits, and while I had left her overnight (first and only time I ever did and wish I hadn't left her) she must have been playing with her ball, throwing it around, chewing it etc...

Anyway, when I found her the next day she was bleeding heavily from her mouth and there was blood on the ball. When I examined her one of her lower incisors was pulled forward and subsequently had to be removed which led to  further complications with abscesses. She had also displaced her jaw during the process resulting in problems with her molars, I guess in pulling so hard to try and free herself. It appeared that her teeth although perfectly aligned previoulsy had become stuck in the gaps and I'm figuring she panicked.

I just wanted to share that experience so other bunny owner can be aware of this happening although it probably was a freak accident, so if you do want your rabbits to play with such a toy please supervise.


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User is Offline babybunsmum
Waterloo ON Canada
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1/09/2008 5:38 AM

oh thats terrible!  your poor bunny bun   i saw a similar warning about those little balls with bells in them.  thanks for the warning... this is good to know.  i'll not leave any toys with teeth holes in baby's room (where she is when unsupervised).



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User is Offline Spacehopper
Buckinhamshire - UK
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1/09/2008 7:37 AM
Good god, i see those all over the place here, thanks for warning, I've been tempted to try as mine love their willow balls (tempted earlier today actually!!!!!), def sticking to the lovely ball things i get from The Hay Experts!!!!

Hope your bun is ok, poor little chickybum.


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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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1/09/2008 11:26 AM

Spacehopper.... yeah they have them in most uk petstores it seems. PAH sell them, but they also sell the traditional willow balls and rings which I don't mind using. They give all of the animals they have in store these balls, and I cringe when I see them. They are too tough and wound so tightly. My bunny caught her teeth in the top part where it is even tighter. I didn't realise the potential danger when I bought it.

Unfortunately I lost her after 6 months of battling complications resulting from that incident. She is the bunny on my avatar picture :-(



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User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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1/09/2008 11:31 AM

Poor sweetie, to die because of a toy?  Sheesh, how sad is that?  It never ceases to amaze be the crap that pet stores sell that is actually bad for the animals that use it.  Quack remedies and supplements, faulty and dangerous toys, lousy food, stale or moldy hay, the list goes on and on.  I am so fortunate that we live near a couple of high end pet stores (Pet Food Express and For Other Living Things, I hope it is OK to name names?).  FOLT is a mom and pop outfit, and you can ask them any question and get a well thought out response, or a place to follow up. 




User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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1/09/2008 11:43 AM
Hi Osprey,

I tormented myself since the day it happened feeling guilty. She really was my best friend and the most affectionate bunny i've ever known. Even slept on my bed next to me every night! It took a long time adjusting to not having her around.

I am so much more aware now of potential dangers and think everything out first before giving anything to my rabbits, or even where I place things i.e boxes.. (incase they climb up, reach something they shouldn't, attempt to jump down and hurt themselves etc etc... The shop I bought it from tend to sell high quality toys, food etc...but I prefer to buy my toys now from bunnymail or bunybasics.com (not so much the commercial toys but the natural products)


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User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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1/09/2008 12:33 PM

The rational side of you must know that there is no reason to feel guilty.  This was a horrible accident, there was nothing you could have done at the time to prevent it.  You trusted the toy manufacturer, and now know that trust was misplaced.  Guilt is such a horrible and useless emotion, and so hard to suppress.  I still feel guilty about a cat I had put down 15 years ago, it is just such a waste of energy to think about these things.  All you can do is love and care for your buns the best way you know how.  You seem to have pulled Milly out of her problem, and that is something positive to focus on.  In her small way, your little bun is educating the rest of us about this defective toy.  This is her legacy.




User is Offline charlie82
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1/09/2008 1:04 PM
Posted By osprey on 01/09/2008 3:33 PM

The rational side of you must know that there is no reason to feel guilty.  This was a horrible accident, there was nothing you could have done at the time to prevent it.  You trusted the toy manufacturer, and now know that trust was misplaced.  Guilt is such a horrible and useless emotion, and so hard to suppress.  I still feel guilty about a cat I had put down 15 years ago, it is just such a waste of energy to think about these things.  All you can do is love and care for your buns the best way you know how.  You seem to have pulled Milly out of her problem, and that is something positive to focus on.  In her small way, your little bun is educating the rest of us about this defective toy.  This is her legacy.


Yes I realise now there is no reason to feel guilty. I know I sought the best for her afterwards, and we tried everything we could to put her right again, it just wasn't meant to be. Without having her and losing her I would never have found the rabbit rescue I did, wouldn't have such a wonderful vet friend who specialises in bunnies, and certainly wouldn't have the bunnies I have now! She taught me most of what I know and started the 'bunny bug' for me which I will always be thankful for. I think things in life happen for a reason, she came and went so quickly but had such an impact on me.



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User is Offline BB
San Francisco Area
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1/09/2008 10:52 PM
Yikes, that is scary! At first when read willow balls, I was like uh, oh, but the Busy Bunny Willow Balls we sell here are so loosely woven and the willow is so thin, but then when I saw the willow ball you were talking about, it does look thicker and more tightly woven, but wow, even then I would have never guessed that it could have done so much damage. That is good to know so thank you so much for sharing. Egads though, I am so sorry that your poor bunny was injured!

Osprey, it's completely fine to name stores when it is just part of the conversation.



User is Offline Spacehopper
Buckinhamshire - UK
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1/10/2008 1:01 AM
Bunny Basics are good too I agree). Some people's/company's inabilityto use their common sense when it comes to animals infuriates me SO much, years ago i bought a toy clearly stating it was for rats. Didn't think too much about it until I was woken up one night by an almighty panic going on in Lily's cage. She'd got herself in a pickle and was dangling off this hanging toy with her poor little tail caught in the chain link bits, luckily she escaped with a only a little cut, she must have been ok as she still sat on my shoulder whipping her tail around my chin (that SHOULD read chinS! ;-)). nothing broken thank god, or i would have gone mad! (as i did when a new fish food we tried nearly poisoned my big old pearlscale Fattie, i mean you dont expect to feed your fisherywillock in the morning, come home from work to find the water green, smelling vile, with old fatty R.I.P gasping at the top for air, i made the manufacturers know EXACTLY what they had done to my poor willock!) RAAR!!

I am like you too in that i am overly aware of what goes anywhere near my buns.


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User is Offline BB
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1/10/2008 8:41 AM
I also started thinking - you should write that company and let them know. They may not be aware and if they are animal conscious they would hopefully stop selling it or change it to make it safer.



User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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1/10/2008 9:59 AM

i'm so sorry to hear about that.  that is such a shame!  that ball looks real hard and real thick, i could see (in retrospect) how that could cause problems, but i honestly probably wouldn't have thought a thing of it otherwise.  i'm always so weary of toys... what's safe, what could cause issues.  if my husband had his way, we'd buy Meadow one of everything at the petstore, so i always have to tell him what she can and cannot have.  he doesn't always understand my fears, but i'd rather be safe than sorry.  i do love the willow toys here on BinkyBunny!  and Meadow approves of them too!



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User is Offline Beka27
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1/10/2008 10:01 AM

oh yeah... that's a good idea writing the company and telling them the story.  there's no way for them to know it might not be safe if folks never contact them and let them know.  and i'm guessing that other people may have had similar negative experiences with them too... unfortunately.



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User is Offline charlie82
England, County Durham
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1/10/2008 10:59 AM
Posted By BinkyBunny on 01/10/2008 11:41 AM
I also started thinking - you should write that company and let them know. They may not be aware and if they are animal conscious they would hopefully stop selling it or change it to make it safer.

 

 

Yes I think I will definitely write, I did actually go into the pet store and tell them but they didn't remove them or anything.....and  still give them to their animals that are for sale.... saying that, these are the people that advertise continental giants as 'giant house rabbits', with no mention of their actual breed. It seems it's the latest craze here



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User is Offline Annie Fann
NJ
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1/11/2008 7:19 PM

wow that's horrible. my sympathies to you. i lost a bun too and still feel bad. i'm paranoid about my bunnies and don't like them being out unless i'm around.  the last thing i want is to come back to a bunny who got himself in trouble.  i take out the toys when its bedtime and put them in their cage.    i never want to be in the vet hospital going out of my mind again. when i went on vacation, my boyfriend bunnysat and i was still worried (and i totally trust him cuz he knows more about buns than me.).  its a tragedy that pet supply companies don't do more research with their products.



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User is Offline poopy
Orange County, CA
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1/13/2008 7:43 PM
omg that is horrible! i am really sorry to hear that happened. thank you so much for sharing though, this is a good thing to watch out for. come to think of it, does anyone think willow tents pose any potential danger? they are woven a bit tighter than the balls/cubes. i think from now on i will only let medusa nibble on her cubes when i'm supervising. her willow tents are always out there though for her access. now i'm paranoid since i'm travelling for the month and she's being watched by my parents


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User is Offline JK
Mill Valley, CA
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1/17/2008 2:29 PM

Wow I am just now reading this!  How absolutely horrible for your little bun!  I hope you wrote the company because they need to know how dangerous this willow ball is.  They need to stop selling these things and really you should notify the Better Business Bureau or the equivalent of if they don't remove them from the shelves. I am so so sorry you had to go through this.




User is Offline MooBunnay
Dallas, Texas (Allen)
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1/18/2008 11:01 AM
I am sorry as well that that happened I was just re-reading this and realized I hadn't posted like I thought I had! It is so hard to think of everything when taking care of pets. You never know what they are going to devise to get into, or chew on that they shouldn't. Sometimes when I think I heara thud in the middle of the night I go flying out to the rabbit cages to see if anyone has hurt themselves, or escaped from their cages...Hopefully one day there will be so many responsible bun-owners in the world that pet stores won't be able to sell dangerous items once a bad experience has been had!



User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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1/18/2008 4:27 PM

Oh Charlie, that's horrible! I am so very sorry that happened. Poor little doll, don't be hard on yourself and I am glad that you were brave enough to post and tell us about it so we can all be careful.




User is Offline Lisa_43
Perth Western Australia
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1/18/2008 9:59 PM

I agree with everyone here, I would defiantly write to the company and let them know.

If a label says this product is for a rabbit then we all presume it is safe for them to play and chew.

Any one of us here could have been in the same situation as you if we had brought this product.

Don’t be hard on yourself because none of us would have know the danger of this Willow ball.



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