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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > WARNING Re: Bunnies and the Outdoors!
Last Post by PeppersMama at 7/31/2008 2:43 AM (37 Replies)
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User is Offline Frostyleo8
Tallahassee, Florida
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12/22/2007 7:16 AM

Everyone:  Thank God, both of my bunnies are ok.  But, I want to share the horrible experience we had this morning with you in hope that it might help prevent the same thing from happening to anyone else's bunny.

We live in a residential neighborhood and have a sliding glass door that opens up to a small courtyard.  I have a puppy fence that I put up just outside the glass door, connected to each side of the door opening.  I occassionally open the glass door so the bunnies can hop out onto the patio for some fresh air.  The fenced area is half circle-shaped and not very large, they don't stay out very long at the time, and we're always just inside to keep an eye on them.  The thought about predators attacking them has crossed my mind, but I figured it would never happen in such a small covered area, with us right there to keep an eye on them.  BUT, WE WERE WRONG.

After going into the kitchen for literally less than 30 seconds, my husband heard a commotion and came back to see Hudwyn running in through the doorway, with a hawk twice his size attached to him.  The hawk detached, Hudwyn got away inside, and the hawk remained just inside the doorway.  My husband managed to get him out and make sure the two bunnies were ok.  Gwynny was inside during it all, but was very shaken up.  (Thankfully, I was upstairs and missed most of it.)  Hudwyn lost two nails completely, but so far he doesn't seem to be injured otherwise.  (We called the vet and were advised to watch him the rest of the day)  The bleeding stopped, he's now hopping around, eating and resting as normal, and we're SO VERY lucky.

Apparently, our brave little Hudwyn had managed to pull himself, hawk attached into the doorway enough for the hawk to let go.  We feel HORRIBLE, stupid, and have learned our lesson.  Please remember to NEVER, EVER leave your bunny vulnerable for even one second, because tragedy can happen that quickly!!!


User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
New Brunswick, Canada
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12/22/2007 7:20 AM
Poor you (and Hudwyn)! I'm so glad your buns avoided disaster! Nothing would be worse than seeing some bird take off with your bunny! Thanks for sharing your story and *hugs* to Hudwyn.
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User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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12/22/2007 8:54 AM

thank goodness he's okay!  thanks for the warning.

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User is Offline Floppy
Bay Area, CA
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12/22/2007 9:04 AM
gees that sounds so tramatizing! Glad he is ok!
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User is Offline Honey&PeepersMom
North Central Florida
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12/22/2007 9:08 AM

I am so glad your bun is ok. How frightening. We were thinking about doing the same thing this summer. I will rethink that now. I already bought the pen and pick the spot in the yard. Thank you for sharing your experience. Again I am so glad your bunny is okay.

Live each day like it is your last; never say anything you will regret tomorrow; always follow your heart, it will take you where you are meant to be.

User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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12/22/2007 9:45 AM

I'm so glad this wasn't a tragic end that often happens in these cases and I am VERY relieved that your bun is O.K. Rabbits can die from shock too so give him extra love. However, I am a bit shocked and disappointed at your vet for not having you take in your rabbit. If anything to have the claw punctures cleaned out. Skin lesions, puncture wounds etc. can get infected quite easily in rabbits. Also do an all over body check to see if there are any tear marks that need stitches and call that vet back if something looks bad and the fur needs to be shaved off for the wound to heal.  Remember that rabbits are notorious for hiding if they are hurt.

I recommend that you dilute some peroxide, irrigate the puncture marks and daub some A & D oinment or regular Neosporin on them right away. Blow on the fur to expose the skin in patches for an easy and gentle way to check for wounds. Talons can harbor microbes or bacteria that will make an animal sick, even if they get away. Keep a close eye on your guy for behavioral changes (rabies etc.) and I recommend that you keep your babies inside. Since the hawk knows they are there, it may hang around for an extended period of time for a second go at a meal. God bless.


User is Offline Frostyleo8
Tallahassee, Florida
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12/22/2007 10:03 AM

Thanks.  We have cleaned and disinfected the nail wounds and have already checked him for wounds other than his nails...there are no others.  Sadly, I'm usually diappointed with the vets in our town, and doubt they would have done any more for him and we did.  We won't be letting the bunnies out again here at all, and we're watching him constantly to ensure he improves.  If he doesn't, you can be sure we will take him to the vet.  


User is Offline JK
Mill Valley, CA
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12/22/2007 10:30 AM

That's unbelievable!  I had no idea a hawk could do such a thing!  Eeeks!  Thank God you have a happy ending!


User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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12/22/2007 10:46 AM
Whew, well I am glad we're here for you and relieved that you were able to clean the wounds and they weren't many. I am surprised to hear that no puncture marks were in the skin on his back etc. Keep an eye on him for the coming days. You might want to just check on the progress of them daily and clean them every other day. I think you will find that they will heal quickly.

User is Offline Sarita
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12/22/2007 1:13 PM
Oh my gosh! I am so glad that your buns are okay. What a terrifying experience for them and for you. It's awful that you and your bunnies had to experience this but I'm so glad that you posted this warning - it's a dangerous world out there for our furry rabbit babies...maybe other people will take heed and learn a valuable lesson from this.

User is Offline Lisa_43
Perth Western Australia
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12/22/2007 1:26 PM

How horrible for you, I am so relieved he is ok.

((((((((((((Healing vibes))))))))))))


User is Offline DustBunneh'sMama
Milltown, Wisconsin
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12/22/2007 10:24 PM

Thank you very much for posting your experience so we can all learn from it. I'm so happy your babies are okay!  How much did the rabbit weigh that the hawk tried to take off with?  I'm just curious to see how big of a rabbit they will try to steal. Thank you.

Proud mama to my 2 month old, 9 lb. bouncing baby Flemish Giant bunneh, "Ole Sven Joseph Gigantica, Earl of Niblet"

User is Offline Martie
North Carolina
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12/23/2007 2:26 AM
oh yes, a hawk will get a rabbit in a heartbeat..you must have your outdoor area covered on the top for protection.
I'm sooooooo glad your bunnies escaped, what a horrible experience. I've been through it with my bantam chickens,
makes me sick!
I hope all will be ok for both your buns.

User is Offline Bunzai
Long Island, NY
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12/23/2007 4:38 AM
I can totally believe what happend. Thank God you bun did not die from the shock. We live in an industrial area of Long Island and even though it is built up we have daily hawk invasions. We feed birds and have huge hedges for cover, but still we have casualties amongst the pigeons and song birds. We have seen hawks walking along the tops of the hedges trying to fish birds out. (there is a chain link fence embedded in them so they are safe) We have seen redtails take squirrels out of trees.

Just before I logged on to this site I had a hawk slam into my screened window trying to get a pigeon. I don't even let my cats out because of this. They are very elderly and like to lay in the sun on the patio.

To answer Dustbunneh'sMama, a hawk will take a small dog. If they are hungry enough and desperate enough they will attack even with the dog on the leash. Frostyleo, please don't blame yourself. If you had thought for one moment that a hawk would be bold enough to go on an enclosed patio, you never would have let them go outside.

And I have to agree, your vet sounds like a pillock.
"That rabbit is dynamite!" ... ..Monty Python's Camelot

User is Offline wendyzski
Chicago, IL
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12/23/2007 7:14 AM

For those who still want to take their buns out in nicer weather, I know that some people will clip a bedsheet to the top of an X-pen for protection.  You still shouldn't leave them, but this way you can read your book nearby and have less worry.

 

I'm so glad your bunny is OK.


User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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12/23/2007 11:09 AM
wow, that is truly terrifying! I am so glad your husband managed to hear the commotion and get out there before it was too late.
I hope his paw will heal well and he'll be ok...
~ bunny mom to to HRH Hareiette, Viktor the crazy Krum and Pandora, prima binky ballerina ~ Save a life, Adopt!

User is Offline Spacehopper
Buckinhamshire - UK
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12/23/2007 2:43 PM
Jeeeez, that's awful. Poor things. My mum told me this morning that her friend watched in horror last weekend as an apparent wild cat took off over the fence with her pet mummy duck in it's mouth!!! I hope everythings ok!!!!!!!x
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User is Offline BB
San Francisco Area
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12/23/2007 10:50 PM
Wow!!! I am so glad your bunnies are okay. That is an amazing terrifying story. I have heard of hawks and owls getting domestic bunnies out of backyards, but this is a first where they were so close the doorway and brought inside. Thank you so much for sharing because I think this experience will actually save other bunnies lives, as I will keep this as a reference.

I also know of others who cover their pens and even balcony areas (sides and top) to prevent land and air predators from getting their bunnies. Maybe that will be something you can do IF you decide to allow them to the balcony again.


User is Offline Frostyleo8
Tallahassee, Florida
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12/24/2007 4:34 AM

 

We're caring for Hudwyn's two nails and they are healing very well.  He doesn't have a temperature, and he's still got his same wonderful spirit.  He's getting full attention and being spoiled rotten.  He's awesome, and he's the best Christmas blessing we could receive this year. 

(We too think it's odd that there are no claw wounds, and we're not sure how he injured his toenails since it all happened so quickly.  All that matters now is that he's ok, and we're much wiser.)

(DustBunneh'sMama:  Hudwyn is 5 pounds.)


User is Offline JK
Mill Valley, CA
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12/24/2007 4:44 AM
Maybe he was desperately trying to grip onto something and that's how he injured his nails. I just keep picturing this awful nightmare! I've seen hawks and crows pick up baby birds but never anything bigger. So happy he's ok! He's a lucky boy!
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