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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > BONDING > Looking for an older male bunny
Last Post by MarkBun at 12/14/2007 5:48 AM (29 Replies)
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User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/05/2007 2:48 PM

So, with all the data I have collected with the speed dating of my bunny, I have come to the conclusion that the bonding process will be about the same no matter which man I bring home for her.  So, I figured for the best match, I'd see about getting a slightly older bunny for her.

I am looking for a dwarf breed or a small (5-6 pound) male rabbit that is around 5 years old.  I know that older bunnies are a little harder to adopt out so I figured I'd give some fella a nice place and a great gal to spend his 'golden years' wtih.

I am searching the local (as in Bay Area, California) shelters at the moment but if anyone who works with a rescue group knows of a neat, good natured bunny guy, feel free to contact me.

Thank you.

Mark

My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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12/05/2007 6:32 PM

Mark,

We have this little boy who might meet your specifications.  His name is Donahue.  He was recently returned to us after being adopted a few years ago.  He recently lost his bonded mate, and he is lonely without her.  Here is his picture:


User is Offline DustBunneh'sMama
Milltown, Wisconsin
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12/05/2007 10:35 PM

He is just darling!  And, lonely to boot...maybe it could be a love connection?!  Mark, please keep us posted and let us know if you meet him!

Proud mama to my 2 month old, 9 lb. bouncing baby Flemish Giant bunneh, "Ole Sven Joseph Gigantica, Earl of Niblet"

User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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12/06/2007 3:59 AM

We also just got a black and white spot name Bosley.  He is about 5 years old, and just lost his home because his human Dad has cancer, and is on immunosuppressing treatments.  His doctors are afraid that he'll catch something from Bosley, so Bosley has to find a new home.  I do not know if he has been around other rabbits or not.


User is Offline FredsDad
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12/06/2007 5:17 AM
Posted By osprey on 12/05/2007 9:32 PM

Mark,

We have this little boy who might meet your specifications.  His name is Donahue.  He was recently returned to us after being adopted a few years ago.  He recently lost his bonded mate, and he is lonely without her.  Here is his picture:

 

 

OH MAN IS HE CUTE! Too bad he's so far away....


User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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12/06/2007 5:36 AM
OMG I am in love with Donahue
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User is Offline Sarita
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12/06/2007 5:43 AM
They are both so handsome - hopefully one of these cuties can work out!

User is Offline Thumpers_Mom
New York
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12/06/2007 8:48 AM
Wow! I am sooo in love with Donahue...what a cutie patootie!

Poor Bosely, he is absolutely darling too! I hope they get into their forever homes soon.

User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/06/2007 8:53 AM
I have made an appointment to see Donahue this Saturday. I will probably not bring Maryann with me as it would be a three hour round trip drive and she's been giving me a lot of attitude and pity looks about having taken her on so many car rides for the last month. I understand that Bosley will also be around for me to look at as well but I'd prefer the smaller Donahue as I have such a small place. After such a long time of taking her on dates, I feel that I can sort of judge the personalities that she prefers.


I have also been looking in other places as well, including craigslist, but I think those that have been helped thus far by the rescue shelters should get that last step up.
My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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12/06/2007 8:59 AM

Bummer, I will not be at this week's show.  Say Hi to Auntie Heather for me.  Here is another picture of Donahue, it gives a better view of his coloring:


User is Offline Thumpers_Mom
New York
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12/06/2007 9:49 AM
Oh my! he just gets cuter and cuter with each pic! Mark, keep us posted. Good luck!

User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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12/07/2007 4:19 PM

Markus I hope it works out! Do let us know!


User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/08/2007 5:49 PM

Well I am happy to announce that Donahue has made it home with me just fine.  Although he is still a bit uncertain about me as he's currently hiding in his cardboard house I made for him.

The bonding process by those 'over the hills' in Santa Cruz is a bit different than what the HRS has been doing.  First though was my 1.5 hour drive down there.  I decided to open up the carrier as I couldn't imagine having Maryann cooped up for that entire drive.  I should mention the carrier I have for her is somewhat 'short' as it is meant to go under seats on airplanes (I had thought I wasn't going to be in the area long after getting her).  Immedately she went from frightened to curious mode.  Soon, she was on my lap or cuddling up next to my thigh while we drove down the highway.  The only thing she didn't like was when we began to go through the twists and turns of the mountain but after 90 minutes we arrived at the shelter.

I met Heather immediately (who was hoarse from, I believe, her all day discussions with people) and Donahue's forster mom, Linda.  Maryann was all wired up (as was I) from the travel so I sat with her for a little while.  We then began the first introductions.  Putting Maryann into a shopping cart lined with blankets, we waited for her to calm down and then put in Donahue.  We then went for a trip around the inside of the store, pushing them along.  Donahue was a bit more nervous than Maryann (who was just done with a long ride) but there were alot of what Linda calls "Eskimo kisses" without Maryann showing any hint of agression.

I then took her out of the cart and held her on my chest while they tried to put Donahue next to her on my chest as well.  Well, the lil' bugger began digging and nipping at me and my shirt immediately.  Guess he doesn't like the guys.  So then it was into the pen they set up for the bonding.  There was no box used although there was litter box that both used after the trip (to me a good sign).  Then, there was constant exploration of the pen and each other.  Maryann would go to him, he would go to her and there was almost no negative reactions between them.  He tried to mount her a couple of times (even once in the cart) and she only did the nip/lunge thing when he snuck up on her butt once.  Other than that, it was more eskimo kisses and so on.

Donahue became so happy that not only did he do a couple of binkies but he also did the power flop.  Maryann just did her usual 'you don't even exist' thing but during one pass, when they did the eskimo kisses, Donahue began to groom Maryann!  Her nose, her cheek, even her ears - and Maryann let him!  No signs of pulling back of jerky motions.  We extended the cage to about a 4x10 foot size, put down more blankets and left them alone.  There were a couple of chases and it was hilarious seeing Donahue with a mouth full of black maryann fur from one nip passing but 99% of it was nothing more than them approaching one another, sniffing, then exploring on their own.

The grooming sealed the deal for me.  The fact that there was never a single circling/nipping argument in the whole 2.5 hours they were together was just futher proof.  I got a new carrier to fit the both of them, put them in it (with Donahue digging and nipping my chest again - we're gonna have to talk about that) and shaking a little like a new dad, we got into the car and went home.  At the end of the 90 minute car ride home, I caught the two of them snuggling.

On the advice of Heather and Linda, I have set up an X-pen next to Maryann's cage (which I will probably lower down to ground level - it is on 6" risers), laid down a blanket, litter, food, water and his preferred oat hay.  I also included toys that Maryann rarely plays with and Maryann's cardboard box/vacation home - which he occupies while I am around and he's not hungry.

My first home bonding session will be happening in an hour or so.  I am going to do it in the bathroom for tonight as I still need to do some serious work in my bedroom to get it ready (I really didn't expect to bring him home today).  Upon the suggestions once again of Linda, I am just going to do the same setup as before, except include both litter boxes, and see how it goes.

I'll be scheduling the free check-up exam with Dr. Harvey on Monday but other than not having pooped yet (and Maryann's poops being a little smaller/sticker at the moment) they both look fine.  And I think the poop issues are just from the stress of today.  If they remain throughout tomorrow though, we'll be going to the doctors a bit earlier.

I'll take some pictures at tonight's bonding session so you can see the two of them together.  Although trying to to be overly optomistic, I don't think that it will be a long bonding process.  Maryann is currently quite relaxed in her cage, even when she sees Donahue (from now on to be referred to as Tona as he just doesn't look like a Donny to me and I don't want the rabbits to have the same number of syllables in their names).  In addition, neither have left any marking poops along the sides of the cages where they touch.

 

My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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12/08/2007 6:24 PM

I am happy that things worked out for you, Maryann and Tona.  Hopefully the bonding will go smoothly.

We had a good day today, Bosley found a home too!

 


User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/08/2007 6:43 PM
If it means anything to you, Osprey, let me say that all the bunnies I saw today looked healthy, cute and extremely sociable. You guys appear to do great work there in Santa Cruz with your buns.

If I had brought my girlfriend, I'd have had to turn my car into one big rabbit carrier. The three young bunnies though stole my heart when a volunteer went into their area to clean up a few things and all three ran from their little huddled position in the corner to climb all over her legs.

Heh, and someone also asked if Maryann was available as she loves the people.
My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/08/2007 7:19 PM

Well my extreme optimism just left.

I got a small little space prepared for them and put the two in.  Within 15 seconds, they did the nip & spin and when I got them seperated, there were a couple of clumps of maryann's fur on the ground.  When I let them go again, it was the old tale of Maryann out roaming about while the boy was sitting stock still in the box afraid to move.  The couple of times that he did, it resulted in another lunge match.

I'm not discouraged though.  The space was small and this was the first time on Maryann's home turf (eventhough she doesn't go into the bathroom as she hates the linoleum, she still thinks of it as hers).  I'll be moving stuff around in the bedroom to make a much larger area for them to move around in so that if this happens again, they have places to retreat to.

Now begins the hard work.  I'm glad the holidays are coming up so I can spend some extra time with them.

Oh, here's a pic of them after the session.  You can see Maryann through the bars checking out Tona.  I wouldn't say she's giving him the stinkeye though - just curious.  I think Tona isn't too upset either else he wouldn't have immediately hopped over to her after I put him back in the pen and then began grooming himself.

 

My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!

User is Offline osprey
Los Altos, California
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12/08/2007 7:50 PM

Thank you for the kind words, Mark.  All of our bunnies live in the homes of our volunteers, we have no shelter building.  The bunnies are well cared for and handled a lot to make them more attractive to adopters.  I am glad that this comes across at our adoption events.

Good luck with the bonding!  Donahue/Tona lost his mate and his home in the same week, I am so happy that he has found a home with a caring bunny person.

 


User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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12/09/2007 7:32 AM

congrats on the new addition!  he is a very handsome guy!

Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline Scarlet_Rose
Colorado
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12/09/2007 10:49 AM

I'm glad MaryAnn found a suitor Mark but at the same time sorry it might take a little work, but overall not bad.  I think they will make a beautiful pair once they get things sorted out!


User is Offline MarkBun
Richmond, CA
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12/09/2007 1:00 PM

Well now it's REALLY hard to be optomistic.  Apparently, my apartment is so small that there is no place that Maryann doesn't consider her place.  I tried to use the box, but neither one would stay in it, even when I was pushing them down.  When I let them loose, Maryann latched so hard onto Tona that when I went to pull them apart, she dragged him along with her.  The really sad thing is that Tona hopped right back to her without any agressive body language to see her again - which earned him a nip on his nose.  No blood though so their fur is doing its job.  I wanted to leave it on a good note but there was no way to do it.  The best I could do was hold them at 4 inches apart from one another for two seconds.

I think I'm going to have to use the HRS's "Bonding Bootcamp" where they take both rabbits from me and do a week of intensive bonding.  I am going to try another car ride a little bit later.  For now though, I'm going to focus on bonding with Tona and myself.

My bonding quest with Maryann - Read about a less than easy bonding with two buns - but they did bond!
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