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Forum BONDING Bonding 2 unspayed females!

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    • Rave
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        Im right now starting the bonding of my two female (NOT spayed) I do know most of you dont agree with this, but I know of the cons of it and will get them spayed next year. But I am going to bond them already.

         We had the first session on the balcony today. It started with a bit of humping from Melody, my rabbit on 1 year. and a bit of fighting back from Panda, my rabbit on 6 months. After a little bit of breaking up fights and a bit of fur flying they settled down. Melody went really calm and had no problems with Panda, all she wanted was to nuzzle and get to now her. Panda on the other and was petrified and hid, and any time Melody would get close She would Flash out of there ans stomp her feet when she reached a new hiding. Melody quite fast got the drill and left her too it. After about an hour Panda would come out from a hiding, smell melody (who would smell her back)and then she would flah right into the hiding again stomping her foot. 

        Ater a few tries from pandas side tho she finnally stoped hiding and got out, smelling melody, who happilly interacted with panda and panda started to mount on melody. (who didnt not like it)so a new fight bursted out. I stopped it as fur started flying and they sat about 1.5 meters away from eachother for a while before Panda reahed out, smelled melody, who gentally smelled her back, then Panda moved away again and both of them started to clean themself. 

        This is where I got them both back into their rooms. Anything I can do to calm Panda down? She was really scared and stressed for a long time…?

        Thank you for any help you can give <3


      • LBJ10
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          As you know, attempting to bond unaltered bunnies is not recommended because hormone-filled bunnies are unpredictable. People have experienced “random” fights, which break out in already seemingly bonded unaltered pairs. If a really bad fight happens and they are injured, it can cause a grudge that may not go away even after they are spayed. That is, if the injury itself wasn’t bad enough. I just want to make sure that is clear for anyone who may be searching for information and reading this thread. We do want to help you, but I fear you will have a difficult time until after they have been spayed.

          Are they motivated by food at all? If Panda will accept food or treats during these introductions, it might help calm her down. What have you done leading up to this? Have they spent time “together” without actually being together? What I mean is, have they spent time alongside each other in separate cages or opposite sides of a fence? It seems to me that slowly acclimating them to each others’ presence would be the way to go here. But I honestly think you would have better luck with this after they have been spayed. Is there a reason why you don’t want to wait?


        • Rave
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            Yes, the reason is that both of them are verry demanding, they dont ever wants to be alone, if I sleep, Panda will wake me up, every night…. (She runns freelly in my room) If I leave the she’ll try to get out as well. If shes in the playpen on our backyard shell sit right next to you by the fence just staring at you unti you get into the pen and then run loose, if the cats happenes to be nearby she’ll even play with them…

            Melody on the other hand is stuck in the rabbit room. if Im not there with her she’ll ust sit by the door, waiting. Whenever one gets in there she wont leave you alone, and sitting down youll almost sertenlly have a hard time standing up as a rabbit will constantlly ask to be petted on your legs.

            I feel they both need a freind as I cant give them both all that attention they crave.

            Panda will accept treats from me if we are in her home teratory (Aka my room) but she is a verry nervous girl so outside the room she most liklley dont ccept anything from me.

            This was the first time they acctualy meet. They’ve never as much as seen eachother before, but I did let melody smell around in Pandas room for a while a few hours before hand, should I let panda do the same maybe?

            I can take them both out in the playpen and just cut it of in the middle, but that playpen is mostlly Melodys teratory as Panda only been there once and melody has spent hours in it….. The paypen is about 7×3 m big, dont know if that will change anything…


          • LBJ10
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              Are you able to change their setup so they are next to each other? Sometimes just having another bunny they can see and smell all the time will help them feel at ease (even if they aren’t bonded).

              There are other tricks people use, like switching litter boxes or blankets so the smell of the other bunny is in their area.

              Anyway, if you were to get them spayed maybe later this year (rather than next year) you could use this time to slowly acclimate them to one another by having them set up next to each other. You can also create a barrier with a baby gate between two rooms so they can see each other while out playing in their areas. Sometimes people call it a pre-bonding stage. Sometimes it helps make the transition easier later on down the line. That is, if they seem to enjoy each others’ company from afar.


            • Rave
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                The problem is that I dont have any cages for them…They rome free in a room each xD one of them (melody) would be crazy being locked up in a cage and start bar-biting, and from the prewius owner I’ve hered that Panda is nervous sitting in a cage :/

                I cant have any of them in the livingroom (the room where the doors conect) because both of them are cord,biters and I cant secure that room.

                Right now, as Melody was fine with Panda, I let her out in her room (twise so far) while panda is in the playpen.

                Panda also have a fluffy toy that is litterally full of Melodys hair to get her used to the smell C:


              • LBJ10
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                  That sounds like a good idea. They can spend time alongside each other that way, which will hopefully create a smoother transition.


                • Velvet
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                    Wow, I wish my bunnies would sit on my lap, no way!

                     

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