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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Bun not doing well after molar grind. HELP

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    • Gummycthulhu
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        Some background:
        Last week I noticed my bunny Murphy wasnt himself. He stopped chewing on his log, started eating less hay, and the final clue was on sunday when he was having a very hard time eating his lettuce and carrot. Basically, it looked like he couldn’t chew them and they were fumbling out of his mouth. We took him took the vet er and a lady from our exotic vet was there. They inspected him, said he had a molar spur, and recommended we take him to our vet monday to get them ground. She gave us critical carejust in case gi stasis started to take hold.

        Other than having a hard time eating his personality was fine at this time. His poo was smaller and fewer but he was still going. I never had to firce feed. He was able to eat softened pellets, cc, and shreded veggies fine.

        Monday I took him in to vet. He looked him over as well as saw papers from day before. Said that he did have some spurs, and filed them down. Took less than 5min to do. Everything seemed well. Got more crit care and 3days worth of pain meds and sent me on my way.

        Now its friday and bun still isn’t himself. He’s eating but still refuses hay and harder foods. His appetite still isn’t the same, and while he is going poo, its again, smaller and not as much. He doesnt seem energetic and tends to lay in certain spots for awhile. I called the vet yestetday to tell him that things haven’t improved and that I was worried. The vet told me to just be patient and that some buns take longer to recover. As long as hes eating and pooping then those are good signs, and if Iwas still not sure to bring him back in.

        Does this sound normal? I feel like I’m stressing myself and my bunny out by worring so much, but I just want him to be ok. I’m really worried about him and I’m not sure if my worries are warranted or if I’m just not giving my bun enough time to recover. The only other thing I’ve noticed usd that after the surgery he trends to be stretching out a lot…like stretching his body out. Im hoping his stretching and laying on his side with feet stretched is a good sign, but again, he just seems to not be as energetic.

        Am i being overly paranoid or could this be more than dental issues? Please help calm my nerves!


      • beebun
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          I’ve never had experience with moral grind or filing before, but maybe what’s keeping Murphy was the stress from the two-days-in-a-row vet trips? I’ve read that some bunnies get stressed. Earlier this week Chito got on to a bout of stasis and for a day after going to the vet she isn’t herself either. I had to administer water with a small oral syringe and handfeed her some hay and pellets, but now she’s doing better and being her bouncy self again.

          I hope Murphy gets a speedy recovery! Keep fussing on him, but not too much. Like check on him every 25 mins or so because I’ve read that buns can feel it when we’re stressing over them and it makes them stressed too. (((you two)))


        • Bam
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            I recently (Nov 5) had my bunny Yohios teeth ground down. It took 10 more days of feeding him CC 4 times a day (the last days I gave 3, 2 and only one serving/day) before he was allright to eat by himself. I think he was very sore in his gums, he was very angry with me. I got some Metacam and that made it much better.

            Now he seems very happy and eats his hay and pellets like a good boy, he does binkies and zoomies and comes for cuddles just like “the old Yohio”.

            So while it may still be sth else that is wrong with your bunny, it’s perhaps too soon to tell yet if the tooth-procedure has solved the problem or not.


          • kirstyol
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              Bramble struggled to eat hard foods for a while after his spurs were ground down, but he had his done at the same time as his neuter and a front tooth that was chipped so I expected it. Personally I felt the painkillers kept him quite zonked out and that probably made him not want to eat much either as he wasn’t up to it or using as much energy as normal. He started eating a lot better after about a week or so.


            • Gummycthulhu
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                Update:
                We took him back to the vet since he hasn’t pooed at all in the evening. Vet is pretty sure hes going through a bout of stasis. They did xrays to make sure and other than a small amount of gas everything seemed normal. Gave us more critical care and some meds for mobility. Going to have to force feed him but he should be ok.


              • Megabunny
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                  My favorite standby…canned pumpkin. Once they get a taste of it they generally love it. It’s good for them, and full of fibre and you can mix critical care in with it. Don’t stop doing all you can to get food and hay into him. If you want to force him anything mushy you can put it on a celery stick and stick it in his mouth. Keep us posted. Also Simethicone for gas would be something you could try but someone else would have to suggest a dose.


                • Bam
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                    simethicone dosage for bunnies would be about 1 ml (1 cc) of a 20 mg/ml suspension. If your brand of simethicone is stronger than that, adjust the dose accordingly. I gave my Yohio 0,3-0,5 of a 100 mg/ml solution.

                    Pumpkin mixes well with CC but you may have to add water if you’re syringe-feeding it. Insert syringe in side of mouth behind the front teeth and check so he swallows it, don’t push too much at a time. It’s vital that his tummy doesn’t get empty, so keep feeding him even if it is bothersome both for you and him.


                  • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                      Oh pumpkin is a great suggestion!

                      Did they do the molars under anesthetic? Mine always has trouble the first day just from the anesthetic but the next days he’s back to normal-glad you got back in and sending {{Healing Vibes}}


                    • LittlePuffyTail
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                        (((((Feel Better Soon)))))


                      • Gummycthulhu
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                          Update:
                          Vet gave us somw gut mobility meds and more crit care. After just a day and a half….holy crap what a differance! He’s still not very interested in his hay, but he’s eating timothy pellets pretty well, fresh greens, and was actually able to eat a small bit of carrot! I’m still feeding him critcare 3 times a day just in case, but his energy is back and he’s getting back to his normal self.

                          I would l like to get him off pellets totally asap. We got timothy pellets simply as an emergency fiber source since he’s willing to eat on his own…just not eating hay. He seems to have playful interest in hay, but wont eat it yet. I kinda play with him using the hay as a toy, so hopefully in a few more days once I see him nibbling I can slowly take the pellets away and get him back on his mostly hay and fresh greens diet. Any other suggestions? He use to LOVE hay, but after this illness just has lost all interest in it.


                        • Megabunny
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                            Aside from trying different types of hay or maybe getting hay toppers, time may be your best friend. Don’t stress over the pellets. They won’t hurt him and should keep up a lot of important nutrients until he back on his feet. Don’t rush getting him off. His gut mobility is critical. I don’t think rabbits like to work too hard at crunchy hay when they aren’t feeling well. Glad to hear he’s doing better. Sounds good to be playing with the hay. When my guy was recovering from surgery I literaly had to pick out the grassiest pieces of Timothy and stick them in front of his face. Whatever works!!


                          • Bam
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                              I second Megabunny, I don’t think you should concentrate on getting him off pellets right now The extra nutrients and vitamins can be helpful now when he’s not been well. Hay may be too much work esp if his gums are still sore. It was two weeks before Yohio went back to eating hay after his molar grind. Playing with the hay sounds like an excellent idea!

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