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Forum BEHAVIOR Why do some bunnies love being held and others don’t

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    • hummingbird
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        Hi,

        I just got my first bunny and have been reading and learning all about them, and this forum has been so helpful.

        I have a 5 month old Holland Lop, who I just got last month.  He hates being picked up (we haven’t even been able to pick him up at all, because he squirms so much and is so fast), lap sitting or even sitting still at all really.  I love that he is so active and playful and just being a bunny, though he is so cute and I really do want to hold and cuddle him.  Plus we haven’t been able to trim his nails, plus we want to know we can pick him up in case of an emergency.  I have read all about this issue – and we know the proper way to pick bunnies up, and we understand that it is in bunny’s nature to not want to be picked up.  We also understand that he is new, and it will take some time for him to fully trust us.  He also isn’t neutered.  However, I have seen and heard of countless bunnies (also not neutered) who love being held and who are therapy bunnies, and I’ve seen pictures of people holding bunnies like they’re big floppy stuffed animals.  I can’t even imagine that with him.  This got me wondering – what’s up with the rabbits who love being held and snuggly?  Is it really all about holding your bunny from birth to help them get used to it?  Is it about personality?  Or is it about trust and your own energy?  Since you can’t buy a bunny until they are 8 weeks old anyways, it seems I have little control over how much the bunny was held as a baby.  So I was hoping to just start holding him now to make up for it, but now it seems impossible and maybe too late.

        Any insights on this?

         Thanks sooo much!


      • LongEaredLions
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          Mostly, bunnies don’t like to be held because it is their instinct as prey animals. However, some bunnies just have a cuddly personality.
          You don’t need to “make up for the time you haven’t been able to hold him.” He probably won’t ever enjoy being held, and you can enjoy his company on his level instead.


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            Gosh hummingbird, I wish I knew??? LOL!

            When I first got my Henry (he was a baby – 9 weeks old) I was desperate to pick him up and cuddle him – I thought that’s what CUTE bunny’s were for, ha ha ha! AND I wrongly made the assumption that if I got him ‘used’ to it as a baby, we would live happily ever after in a cuddle embrace. NOT!!! I was covered in scratches, he wouldn’t let me approach him – it was just awful! Thanks to my BB friends I realized that ‘most’ bunnies are to be adored and loved from a distance, lol! So I backed off big time, only offering pats if he approached me and I even went out of my way to give Henry a wide birth if I could when I walked past him, so he wouldn’t feel threatened and that I was going to pounce. (Oh, I should announce that Henry is free range 24/7). Anyhow, he gradually came to me/us more and more and even though we have had him (so it took) over a year – only just recently can I actually pick him up now. BUT only when I HAVE to. I cut his nails about 2 weeks ago (and I’m embarrassed to say they were way way toooo long), but it was as simple as giving him a pat and a quick grab. He wasn’t happy, but I was ‘happy’ to report that after cutting his nails and I put him down I was ‘scratch’ free – bonus! And he only snubbed me for a few hours – not the usual few day’s when I used to force myself on him (chase him). Now Henry jumps onto the bed and demands pats! I can approach him to give him pats when I want to and he no longer scuttles away when I enter the room or his space – it’s WONDERFUL!

            Honestly (IMO only) I think it’s the bunny’s personality first and foremost. Second it’s time (and LOT’S of it!!!) along with even more patience to eventually gain the ‘trust’. Like I said above – I’ve had Henry for well over a year and we have only just started to enjoy the benefits of mutual love and clipped nails! Don’t force or push it (I know… it’s SO tempting!) cause I really believe it makes it worse – that was my experience anyway.

            In an emergency – don’t hesitate! Grab your bunny and to save him jumping out of your arms while in a panic (and he’s tearing you to shreds cause you haven’t clipped his nails, ha ha ha), put him in a pillow case (that’s my plan).

            Hope this helps hummingbird and take care – wishing both you and your bunny all the best. Cheers.


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              What about sitting on laps? I planned on treat training mine to sit close or on my lap.


            • Stickerbunny
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                Therapy animals are chosen based on temperament, this is the same with all animals. Part of it is genetic, part is how they are raised from babies, even before weaning. You can pick two well tempered parents, from a well tempered line and have a more likely well tempered animal. You can train an animal from birth to behave a certain way. But, generally you want to pick an animal that is a good candidate for such training. Somtimes it is rescues, sometimes ones bred specifically for the role.

                Animals have their own personalities just as we do. You can train them to act against their natures, to a point. For your bun, you can probably, with time, get him used to being handled enough for easier grooming and such. But, he will likely not enjoy being held. It is easier to bond with them on their terms, rather than forcing your own. I hold mine enough that they are used to it for maintenance and don’t struggle much anymore, but if I try to force it on them for affection, they would run from me.

                Brandy – That will be up to your bun. My Powder is affectionate and enjoys hopping in my lap if there is a reward (food, pets). My girl will never enjoy it and while I can force her, she is obviously not interested / uncomfortable and no reason to stress her.


              • Beka27
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                  It is very rare to have a bun who “loves” being held and is completely relaxed in that situation… really, more often it is a “frozen in fear” response. They feel captured, so they freeze in place as a defense mechanism.

                  It is important that you implement some degree of handling so you can perform grooming maintenance on a regular schedule, but your rabbit will be so much happier if you can forego holding/snuggling too much, and rather interact with him on the ground level so he can come up to you as he pleases.


                • hummingbird
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                    Thanks everyone!  This is great advice.  Yes, so far I’ve been getting down on the ground at his level, letting him come to me, tempting him with treats, and petting him.  I do understand it’s against a rabbits nature to be picked up and held, though I thought he would at least like sitting on my lap on the ground, since rabbits are also very social and friendly and snuggly animals when with other rabbits (at least ones they’re bonded to) it seems.  Also, as he is the only rabbit we have (we plan to get him a friend soon), I thought he may be lonely and want some cuddling.  I guess I have a lot to learn about rabbits then.  It’s funny though – I’ve seen so many pictures of rabbits at shows where the owner is holding them like they’re a floppy doll. 

                     I recently met a 6 month old, unneutered boy bunny who was sooo friendly and loved to be held – I was sort of surprised and wondered if he didn’t have the same wild rabbit instincts, if it was his personality, if he was held a lot from birth, or what was up with that. 

                     Since I am hoping to have a therapy rabbit someday, as I work at a therapeutic center, I’m wondering if I should get a baby bunny and hold and cuddle it a lot, or if I’d have more luck getting a grown up bunny I know is already friendly?  Is a bunny’s personality when they are young at all an indicator of what they’ll be like later, or do they go through very different phases.  And is it possible when my bunny is neutered he will chill out a bit and like or at least tolerate being held?


                  • hummingbird
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                      Though I must say – it is sooo not fair that an animal that cute doesn’t usually like to be held.


                    • hummingbird
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                        Hmmmm – since I wrote this, I have heard many mixed information on bunnies liking to be picked up or not. I talked to many bunny breeders (including the one I bought my bunny from) who have no problem at all picking their bunnies up. For the breeder I bought my from, her bunnies love her and many love being picked up and jump into her arms and act as therapy rabbits. Sure, some like being picked up more than others, but she has never had a problem before. But my rabbit is 6 months old, just got neutered 2 weeks ago, and he still freaks out every time I even try to pick him up – I literally can’t pick him up at all, he jumps and hops away with any sign of me trying to pick him up. The person I got him from was shocked, as she’s never had such a problem before and told me to just keep picking him up to get him used to it, but I can’t even get him off the floor at all. Both her and the bunny vet said the more you pick them up the better, and that they need to be handled to get used to it. He seems to trust me so I don’t understand why he still acts like this. I have read all about why rabbits don’t like to be held and how to properly pick up a rabbit. However, I also have seen so many people pick up their bunnies like they were floppy dolls.


                      • litheandgraphic
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                          Rabbits have very individual personalities. They also tend to be calmer when they have one to lots of bunny mates to keep them company, so it’s likely that her rabbits are calmer because they have been in the same place their whole lives and they have been around the same buns and person their whole lives.

                          Bunnies tend to take a long time getting used to new places and new people. The best thing I can suggest for you is to allow him to come and investigate you and try not to force anything on him. Theodore acts as a therapy bunny for me, but he’s not exactly the cuddliest bunny ever; he will climb into my lap from time to time, but I’ve come to accept that he’s not a stuffed animal, but rather a strong-minded little fuzzball who shows that he loves me by flopping down beside me and nudging me for attention.

                          Even today it seems that Theodore and I continue to bond, and every day he shows me a new shade of trust and affection. If there’s one true thing that can be said about rabbits, it’s that they can take a LOT of time to get used to their new surroundings. Give him some more time and patience, and I promise you, you won’t even care about whether or not he’s cuddly because he’ll come to show you his own ways of affection.


                        • Bam
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                            After having had Bam for 3 years almost, he now often lets himself get picked up like a floppy toy. Sometimes he’s not in the mood though, and the difference is very clear. If he just relaxes when I try to pick him up, I know he’s up for a cuddle. Otherwise he’ll just tense up and try to escape like “I really can’t be bothered now, mummy”.

                            Bam is one of the slowest learners I’ve come across, though. The day before yesterday he suddenly figured out how to use his activity ball (it has pellets in it) and started rolling it around on the floor. He’s had that ball for nearly 2 years but never figured it out until now. You gotta love a bunny like that =)

                            My point is, with some bunnies, lots of time is needed. A lot more time than with f ex a dog.


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                              hummingbird

                              I have a 5 month old Holland Lop, who I just got last month. He hates being picked up (we haven’t even been able to pick him up at all, because he squirms so much and is so fast), lap sitting or even sitting still at all really. I love that he is so active and playful and just being a bunny, though he is so cute and I really do want to hold and cuddle him. Plus we haven’t been able to trim his nails, plus we want to know we can pick him up in case of an emergency.

                              Can completely relate. They’re just like toddlers.

                              Pete used to insist on being held when he was tiny, but once he discovered he could jump onto furniture by himself he became “the tough guy” that you couldn’t pick up anymore. He’s coming into his own and figuring out who he is (tomorrow he’ll be 6 months). Gradually he’s starting to warm up to sitting on laps again, but it’s taking time and reassurance that he is still in control of the situation. I haven’t been able to do his claws either, but I’ve been getting him used to me just petting his legs and occasionally touching his feet (only front or back at any time, not both) and he’s gotten to the point now that I can lift one paw, play with his toes, and place it back down without him taking off at 15mph. Now we’re working on two paws.

                              bam

                              Bam is one of the slowest learners I’ve come across, though. The day before yesterday he suddenly figured out how to use his activity ball (it has pellets in it) and started rolling it around on the floor. He’s had that ball for nearly 2 years but never figured it out until now. You gotta love a bunny like that =)

                              I love this. I can just picture the ecstatic little ball-pushing after he figured it out.


                            • litheandgraphic
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                                Cottontail that’s a good thing to do, too, because it may very well help you clip his nails, too. C:


                              • Flopsie
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                                  I feel that its a combination of personality, experience of the handler, and history.

                                  I think first and foremost personality is key. Some do not like to be held and some do. I see others that do and I’m jealous to be honest, but I have accepted that mine does not. It may just not be in their temperament.

                                  For example, I hear that not all bunnies give bunny kisses but mine loves to give them to me, probably to much that I feel like i’m a salt lick lol so this personality IMO.

                                  I think second is the handler themselves. I think knowing how to hold the bunny is key and sometimes people just get different repsonses. My bunny can be held by my friend in ways that I can never do even though we have the same technique. IN fact she can get her to do things that are impossible for me.

                                  third is history of being held. This is either familiarity of being handled since young as well as any negative experiences.

                                  I think most importantly is to not force our values on to the bunny. I know that we want to cuddle them and show our love but if its not meant to be, its better not to force it.

                                  I used to want to pick Flopsie up a lot and I was able to do it for short periods. However, as I get more experienced, I realize that there is no need for it. I can pick her up in an emergency if needed, but I no longer wish to pick up her just for fun. Also, I dont want to risk her hurting herself ether by her kicking too hard or by being dropped when I pick her up

                                  pat


                                • hummingbird
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                                    Yes, great advice. I have been told by my vet and the person I bought the bunny from to hold him to help him get used to it – they said that many bunnies can like being held if they can learn to trust you and to trust being held, mostly from being handled very young. They said it wasn’t too late to hold me bunny now and get him used to it, even though he hadn’t been held a lot as a baby. But I can’t pick him up at all – every time I try it’s so traumatic for both of us because he is impossible to pick up, and the only way to do it is to fight him or trick him or do something probably totally traumatizing. I’ve pretty much given up. I don’t want to ruin the trust I’ve already built with him. But I also feel like if he doesn’t learn to be held now, while he’s still young, he never will and it will just get worse. I do understand that bunnies naturally don’t like being picked up (though I’m hearing of more and more that love it), and don’t even try to pick him up high off the ground, but I just want him to sit still on my lap so I can brush him and hang out with him more often. I also hope to be able to take him outside someday, but need to be able to handle him for that to be safe. I do understand him and know that he is a bunny (and a wild ones at that), but I also have seen so many bunnies that are easy to hold or even like to be held (like I went to a bunny show and everybody there was holding their bunnies like they were ragdolls), and it concerns me that he hates is so much and freaks out. I wonder if he’s ever been traumatized around it? Or if he just doesn’t trust me? I didn’t know anything about bunnies when I got him, and maybe he wasn’t quite the bunny I was looking for, but now I love him and want to make it work so we both get what we need out of this relationship. I feel like any relationship needs some give and take, and he seems to completely control us. I am ok with not holding him often, but I can’t imagine going his whole life, or 10-12 years, never ever holding him. We literally can’t even pick him up if we try, even my husband who knows a lot about bunnies and is big and strong. I sometimes wonder if our bunny just likes us because we feed him.


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                                      Keep in mind that a month is not a long time for a bunny to adjust to new surroundings. Give him some more time!

                                      If you need a refresher on how to approach bunnies to pick them up, here’s some tips:

                                      • Stroke the bun from head to tail a couple of times before you pick him up. This will make him aware of what you’re about to do.

                                      • Gently but confidently scoop their back legs from behind and place one hand under their front legs on the chest, fully supporting the bunny.

                                      • Make sure the hind legs are fully supportrd and absolutely controlled. Allowing the bunny to kick to hard without proper restraint could result in serious injury.

                                      • Bring the bunny to your chest right away so that their feet feels firmly planted on something.

                                      You may want to try introducing clicker training as a way of teaching your bun that being handled is safe. You can do a quick Google search for tips on clicker training, but the basics are as such:

                                      • Make the rabbit associate the sound of a click (easy to make with your tongue) with a reward like a heathy treat. You will need to make the click, then immediately give the treat, and continue to do this over and over again for about a week so the bunny knows what to expect. You’ll know if this has sunk in when you make the sound and the bunny looks expectant.

                                      • Begin to introduce handling. Place your hand under the rabbit near their chest and then click and treat. Continue this for a few days. Then repeat the process for the back legs. Move slowly one step at a time and give plenty of time (a few days) for things to sink in.

                                      Eventually, this may allow you to pick up your bunny more easily.


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                                        I’m sorry Hummingbird – some bunnies, and yours may be one of them… don’t like being picked up or held. As I said above, I’ve had Henry for a year and a half. I picked him up as a baby to get him used to it, and he is free range and the most spoiled bunny on this site – and he still, quite simply doesn’t like to be picked up! When I realised this was the case, I let him be. It only caused myself and him unnecessary stress. Some bunnies don’t mind, a lot do. Just cause others can and do doesn’t mean you can. Trust? My boy trusts me 100%! I have to step over him at my bedroom doorway (I can’t tell you how many times I have walked into him and tripped over him – does he move? NO!), it’s nothing for him to climb me to get a chippy or a nut off my ice cream, and when he wants a pat, he doesn’t hesitate to headbutt me! But when I HAVE to pick him up, I have to trick him with a pat then a grab, otherwise I’d have NO chance! I hate doing that to him so only do it when it’s important, like for a nail trim or a photo (ha ha ha!).
                                        I know Henry loves us – from a distance! Lol!

                                        PS – Now that I have accepted that our love won’t be physical, I am still looking forward to loving Henry for the next 15 years! He makes me either laugh or smile every day – he is still SO dam cute!


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                                          Thanks. Yes, that makes sense. I know I wouldn’t like being picked up. And that is what I’d thought – that he is just a rabbit and doesn’t want to be picked up. But then my vet said that wasn’t the case, and that it’s all about handling the rabbit a lot as a baby. But the breeder I got him from, and others I’ve heard about, who take great care of their rabbits and hold them a lot as babies have never ever had a rabbit they couldn’t pick up easily, though some did like being held more than others. And, like I said, when I went to a rabbit show there were hundreds of rabbits there and every one had no problem at all being picked up, usually with no effort, like a floppy ragdoll… sure, some seemed to like it more than others still. I thought maybe it’s that they were scared, so were frozen, but even when my rabbit is scared, like at the vet, he fights being held like crazy and the vet could barely pick him up. So I got really confused about this, because I’ve been hearing so much conflicting information on it. I get him not loving to be held, but I’m concerned that he hates it so much. Especially because the person we bought him from had no problem picking him up (he was 4 months old when we got him), and we’ve never been able to pick him up, even though she taught us how to properly pick up a rabbit, and it seems we’re doing it right. And it just seems to get worse the more we try, like when we first got him 3 months ago we could sort of pick him up (maybe because he was younger), and now we can’t pick him up at all. This is the opposite of what the vet said…. she said the more you handle them, the better, and the more they’ll get used to it. I just don’t want to give up trying to pick him up, if maybe it’s not that he hates being picked up but rather that he’s still getting to trust us, or maybe he had a traumatic experience being picked up but I can help him with that. If he really hates it, than I’ll stop trying. But that would be really sad for me, so I just want to be sure that’s the case.


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                                            I just found this great article…

                                            http://www.therabbithouse.com/behaviour/problem-picking-rabbit-up.asp

                                            It basically says that rabbits don’t hate being picked up, they are just scared, and it can take a lot of patience and time to build their trust enough to pick them up. This makes sense, since my rabbit is kinda shy and skiddish in general (though likes to be petted and isn’t scared of us petting him, stepping over him, etc.) I still don’t really understand why some rabbits seem to have no problem being picked up, but maybe it’s just that they never learned to be scared or are more domesticated and further from their wild roots.


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                                              We got Bramble from a family of animal lovers who had an accidental litter, he was six weeks old and had been handled pretty much from birth. I found him quite easy to handle at first, he would jump up on my knee and picking him up wasn’t a problem (you could tell he didn’t love it mind you but he tolerated it as a means to an end) We have to pick him up to put him in his playpen so he is picked up most days as we put him in his pen when we go out which is most days, recently he will not let me pick him up at all, the other half can pick him up and he doesn’t seem to mind. I think he associates me with going to the vet since it was me that took him to all his appointments after he was neutered (we had to go every day for a week then a few more times after that) I think he now thinks that if I pick him up we are going to the vet, but if the other half picks him up its playpen time.


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                                                If you ever are able to pick up your bunny happily, make sure you let me know how you did it and tell me straight away! Lol!

                                                Good luck! And I totally get why you want too – it’s so not fair that Henry can be so cute and I can’t cuddle him….. 
                                                Cheers Hummingbird.


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                                                  I agree that bunnies don’t like to be held. I think it’s their instinct to  be on guard all the time. I have my foster bunnies and I trained them to be picked up and cuddle all the time. So right now they are used to it.


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                                                    I have a 5 month old Holland lop too!!! She is a sweetie but she loves to chew through my clothes. She’s very hyper so she doesn’t sit on my lap much, but if you scoop them up by the bottom and hold them to your chest really tight (not deathly tight) then usually they stay pretty calm. Also sometimes if you hold them like a baby I’ve heard it puts the bunnies into sort of a calm trance but I haven’t read too much about this so don’t take my word for it.


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                                                      I am happy to say that 1 out of my 3 bunnies absolutely loved being held, hugged, pet, brushed, etc. I agree that most bunnies do not like this. I had my KitKat since 8 weeks and now is about 12. Since day one I made sure to pick my bunnies up and handle them as often as possible. I also let them all run around the room. Good luck!!!


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                                                        Some really knowing posts here.  I’ve had 12 years of experience with three buns and none of them liked to be picked up and none liked to be held.  Sitting on the floor, or sitting on the couch, a rabbit will be continent to lay beside you and be gently slowly massaged on the neck and shoulders.  Even after 11 1/2 years of living with us as a house rabbit, Bunny would groan if she was picked up. My current Flemish girls, 11 months old, will also make a groaning sound if you pick them up.  They don’t like to be picked up.  If I pick one up, it’ll be several days before one of the Flemish girls will let me put my hands on her where she thinks I might pick her up.

                                                        Interesting.  The last two times I picked up my Flemish girl Snowy, cradling  her in my arms with my left hand under her body and left hand up over her face…she positioned her upper and lower incisors around my left hand index finger!!!!! The incisors are about 1/8 inch in diameter and are razor blade sharp. A not too subtle hint that a bite was soon to be coming if I frightened her more!!   These animals are a lot more intelligent than almost everyone would know. You have to live with them and let them bond with you before you’ll ever appreciate how personable and how great of a pet they can be.


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                                                          Posted By hummingbird on 8/10/2014 4:55 PM

                                                          Hi,


                                                          I just got my first bunny and have been reading and learning all about them, and this forum has been so helpful.

                                                           

                                                          I wish I was participating in the forum when Bunny was alive. I had only a slight knowledge of GI Statis. Bunny developed GI Statis on one of the only weekends when the temperatures here reached 90 degrees F. We don’t have air conditioning since it’s almost never needed.  I thought her not eating was due to the heat. There were other symptoms of GI Statis that I missed because I was not that bunny knowledgeable. I’m participating now to safeguard my two Flemish 11 months old sisters and also to pass along any of the little knowledge of bunnies that I have.

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