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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Honeybun getting neutered today
Last Post by BB at 9/24/2006 3:56 PM (7 Replies)
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User is Offline redestarrosa
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9/21/2006 7:21 AM

Honeybun is getting neutered today... i already dropped him off at the vet...

do i need to leave him in the cage at home after being neutered or do i let him have the free run of the house... he is used to having the free run of the house since he was two months old...

He and Blackjack used to be best friends, this was before the hormones kicked in..do you think after the hormones wears off, that  they will go back to being best friends??

Honeybun is the alpha bunny... last night, Honeybun went after blackjack and tore a chunk of his fur off of him.. Blackjack will do anything to avoid fights, he would run away and hide... since he is a lot smaller than Honeybun, he can hide in places that Honeybun can't get into ...

i am worried that despite of being neutered that the boys won't be friends anymore... it is not much of a life for poor little blackjack to hide from Honeybun all the time ...if things don't change for the better after a month or so... i might have to rehome Blackjack... Honeybun might rather be the only bunny in the household... Honeybun is best friend with my dog

i hope Honeybun makes it thru the surgery okay

Evenstar and the Critters


User is Offline Anita Stark
Ontario, Canada
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9/21/2006 8:35 AM
Hi
Sorry I don't have any advice about how things might be after your bun's surgery.   I'm sure others will be along with helpful info.

I just wanted to wish the best for you and Honeybun.  I hope everything works out okay. 
Sable's Mom

User is Offline Gravehearted
Campbell, CA
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9/21/2006 8:59 AM
oo I am thinking good thought for honeybun!

Is Blackjack neutered yet? Hopefully once the hormones calm down post neuter they'll be able to be friends again. If they're going to be apart for a while, you might have to work on re-bonding them again. We've had bunnies in our foster system who went from best friends to similar aggression and had to be seperated until they were neutered - but then later they were able to be together again safely. I think it's pretty hard to generalize - since every bunny relationship is different, but I think it's worth trying to get them living together once he's healed.

When you bring him home you'll definately want to limit his space so he can have a safe space to recuperate and heal for at least a few days.

Here is some post-neuter advice from Rabbit Central that might be helpful for you:

1. A neuter and (especially) a spay will make your bunny sore for a day or two. Many experienced vets routinely administer analgesics (e.g., Banamine (flunixin meglumine) )after the surgery, just to keep the bunnies comfortable and to encourage them to eat as soon as possible.

2. Under normal circumstances, rabbits do not require post-surgical antibiotics.

3. Keep your rabbit quiet for a few days after surgery, but do try to maintain normal feeding and bonding times. There is no reason to separate bonded pairs or groups as long as the bunnies interact calmly. Adhesions usually will begin forming within 24 hours. If your male bunny seems very sore after his neuter, a sitzbath in a weak solution of betadine and lukewarm water (about 1 tablespoon of betadine in four cups of water) can be very soothing. Be sure to gently check the sutures for a day or two after surgery to be sure the bunny isn't chewing them, and to check for unusual redness, swelling or signs of infection. If you see any sign of problems, the bunny should be taken back to the vet immediately.

4. Watch to be sure that your bunny does not chew out the sutures! Many vets use subcuticular (under the skin) sutures that cannot be chewed out, and may even put a line of surgical glue over the incision for extra strength. You might ask your vet about this before your bunny has his surgery. In most cases, an E-collar is not necessary for a rabbit, and may cause more stress than it is worth, except in extreme suture-chewing cases. If your bunny does end up wearing an E-collar for a day or two, note that you will probably have to feed him his cecotropes, since he will not be able to reach them for normal ingestion. (More information on the nature of cecotropes can be found in "The Mystery of Poop".)

5. Healing is usually well under way by seven days after neutering for a male, and ten days after spaying for a female. NOTE THAT MALES MAY HAVE VIABLE SPERM FOR UP TO FOUR WEEKS POST-NEUTERING! Do not place your male with an intact female until a minimum of four weeks after his neuter surgery!

6. If your rabbit has a bonded mate, you may need to separate them physically for a day or two to avoid injury if they continue to mount one another, or play too roughly. Usually this is not necessary. But if it is, be sure to allow them to see, touch and smell each other at all times, even if they cannot physically contact one another. The rabbit who has undergone surgery will need the emotional support of his/her mate for an uneventful recovery. Allowing them to be in contact also reduces the chances that they will fight after re-introduction.

7. Offer your rabbit a bowl of water, even if a water bottle is usually used. A rabbit needs to drink after surgery, but often won't do so if he has to "work" for his water. He will recover more quickly if he's well hydrated.

8. If your bunny is reluctant to eat after surgery, offer a favorite treat. He will recover more quickly if the GI tract gets back up and running as soon as possible after a surgery. Fragrant herbs, such as basil, parsley, dill and mint seem to appeal to a bunny recovering from surgery.

9. It is not unusual to see a few soft or mucus-covered stools after surgery. Stools should return to normal within a day or two, if your bunny has returned to regular eating habits. If you continue to see mucus in the stool beyond a day or two, or if fecal production stops, consult your veterinarian immediately.

10. If your rabbit hasn't eaten ANYTHING within 24 hours of surgery, we advise calling your veterinarian. Monitor the output of fecal pellets closely. If fecal output slows or stops after surgery, your bunny may be suffering from GI stasis (ileus) due to the stress of the surgery.

11. If your bunny suffers unusual complications, you may need to "force feed" her for a few days after surgery to help get the GI tract back to normal. A very good product for this purpose is Critical Care, manufactured by Oxbow Hay Company, and often available through your veterinarian.
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User is Offline Gina Won
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9/21/2006 10:15 AM
good luck honeybun!!!

User is Offline redestarrosa
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9/21/2006 11:03 AM
wow! thank you for the good lucks and the advices, they really do help, i got Honeybun home, my poor bones aches just looking at his surgery area.. The vet didn'nt clean all the blood off of his fur or the area... as soon after we gotten home i opened Honeybun's travel container.. he went straight for the dresser in the dining room and went under, to lay on his belly on the tiled floor ... i was afraid that if i put him in the cage it might stress him out too much.. considering that he rarely is in the cage... i put the cage together earlier this week... i am keeping my eye on him and so far so good.. he is resting under the dresser, and blackjack, he is resting behind the toliet in the bathroom (his favorite napping spot) i left the cage door open so if he wants to go in, he could... he does like sleeping in it as long as the door is open

he havent eaten anything yet... he is still real sleepy.... he is taking a nap right now ...later on today i will try get him to eat

Blackjack is not neutered yet.. i will get him neutered early next month when payday comes again ...

i am looking forward to pee that don't smell much :-)

soon after blackjack is neutered... the only unneutered male i will have is Bobuck my sugar glider ... my rats , Bucca and Little Bill are neutered, and the bunnies.. and my service dog nickles..
well i gotta go.. i need to get my lizard some more food

i will keep y'all updated

User is Offline Ester Yeh
Houston, TX
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9/21/2006 5:00 PM
i hope everythign goes well!

User is Offline redestarrosa
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9/21/2006 5:46 PM
so far he seems to be doing okay... he is still under the dresser but he ate a carrot that i gave him... so he still got his appetite and still willing to eat..

blackjack has been checking on him on and off.. keeping his distance

so far so good

User is Offline BB
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9/24/2006 3:56 PM
Posted By redestarrosa on 09/21/2006 9:21 AM

Honeybun is getting neutered today... i already dropped him off at the vet...

He and Blackjack used to be best friends, this was before the hormones kicked in..do you think after the hormones wears off, that  they will go back to being best friends??

i am worried that despite of being neutered that the boys won't be friends anymore... it is not much of a life for poor little blackjack to hide from Honeybun all the time ...if things don't change for the better after a month or so... i might have to rehome Blackjack... Honeybun might rather be the only bunny in the household... Honeybun is best friend with my dog

Evenstar and the Critters

 

WOW, I missed this.  I will have to give best wishes to continued healing and future bonding instead.

It is not impossible for males to get along.  It is definitely challenging, and  a month might be too short of an expectation.   But ya never know! 

So right now they do not get along at all?  Is that correct?  If so, then there is no way for you to know if they will get along until AFTER they have all been neutered.  As well as it can take a month after surgery for the hormones to die down.  Which means they could still be driven to fight if you put them together before they have all had surgeries and all of their hormones have died down.

Reason being is that even if one male is neutered and it's been a month, but the other male still has everything it tact, they could both fight because one is being pushed around.  Or even neutered males can be dominant and feel especially threatened by just the scent of an unaltered male.

I know that is not what you want to hear, as I know you were sort of giving a time-table of a month.  I know it must be frustrating and I'm sure that it must be a real pain to keep them all separated, but I just wanted to give you some realistic expectations so  you don't get too disappointed in a month. 

If you do decide to rehome a bunny - try to find a responsible person on your own, as shelters are usually overcrowded with bunnies and can be at risk of euthanasia, and usually rabbit rescues only rescue from shelters trying to save at least some of them that are in line to be euthanized.

Hopefully - keep our fingers crossed, once your boys have had surgery and given the time to let their hormones die down, they can be good buddies.  

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